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US cities have a staggering problem of Kia and Hyundai thefts. This data shows it.

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    crialpaca
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    My first ever new car purchase was a 2021 Hyundai Venue. Two years later, it was basically uninsurable, even with the software update. I hope one of the class action lawsuits against Hyundai / Kia...

    My first ever new car purchase was a 2021 Hyundai Venue. Two years later, it was basically uninsurable, even with the software update. I hope one of the class action lawsuits against Hyundai / Kia sticks.

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      rkcr
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      The issue with the software update isn't that it doesn't work (I assume it does) - it's that Kia and Hyundai now have a reputation for being easy to steal. I've got a friend who recently bought a...

      The issue with the software update isn't that it doesn't work (I assume it does) - it's that Kia and Hyundai now have a reputation for being easy to steal.

      I've got a friend who recently bought a Hyundai. It was made after all this came out, and it has an immobilizer. But Kia boys aren't discerning - they broke open the car once just to try anyways.

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        crialpaca
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        Oh yeah, I had a whole second paragraph I was trying to type (but couldn't articulate the way I want to) about how vulnerable this makes Hyundai and Kia owners, even those without the issue. My...

        Oh yeah, I had a whole second paragraph I was trying to type (but couldn't articulate the way I want to) about how vulnerable this makes Hyundai and Kia owners, even those without the issue. My car got a sticker added to it with the software update but like... the kids doing this aren't going to be looking for that.

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        1. Sodliddesu
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          Yeah, my beat up base model Accent for the longest time was a theft repellant. Why break into that guy's car? He's got it rough enough with that thing (little did they know it got great gas...

          Yeah, my beat up base model Accent for the longest time was a theft repellant. Why break into that guy's car? He's got it rough enough with that thing (little did they know it got great gas mileage!).

          Then all this shit started up and my insurance rates started to climb. Well, I no longer have a Hyundai. Sad too, she was a great little ride.

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    Amun
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    Aaron Gordon (tap/click to know more...) Cities around the U.S. are facing a staggering new normal when it comes to stolen cars Some nine million vehicles in the U.S. are vulnerable Kia Boys or...

    Aaron Gordon


    Thefts of easy-to-steal Kias and Hyundais are a scourge on American cities. Detailed data from ten cities obtained by Motherboard tells part of the story.
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    Cities around the U.S. are facing a staggering new normal when it comes to stolen cars

    Chicago used to have about 850 cars stolen per month. Now, it consistently has more than 2,000, an average of 86 cars stolen every single day. Denver rarely had more than 800 stolen cars in a month before 2021. Now it usually has more than 1,000. Atlanta usually had less than 250 per month before 2022. This year, it has doubled.

    The thefts are centered around two car brands: Kia and Hyundai. The companies sold more than nine million cars over the course of a decade without basic anti-theft technology that makes them trivially simple to steal.

    Some nine million vehicles in the U.S. are vulnerable

    From 2011 to 2021, Kia and Hyundai manufactured many of their cars, including almost all of their lower-end models, without engine immobilizers, a basic anti-theft device that costs about $100 to manufacture into a car and prevents them from being hot-wired. Anti-theft devices are required by law in Canada, but not in the U.S. The rest of the car industry widely adopted immobilizers, and Kia and Hyundai use them in Canada and Europe. But in the U.S, just 26 percent of Kias and Hyundais had immobilizers as late as 2015. In total, some nine million vehicles in the U.S. are vulnerable.

    Kia Boys or Kia Boyz subculture

    This fact, combined with the emergence of a subculture dubbed the Kia Boys or Kia Boyz that turned stealing the cars into sport, has resulted in a stolen car crime wave unlike anything the U.S. has seen in generations. Stolen car rates are not up by 10 percent, or 20 percent, or even 50 percent. In many cities, they are up hundreds of percentage points, Motherboard has found. Rates of stolen Kias and Hyundais in particular are up thousands of percentage points.

    And, so far, according to data obtained by Motherboard via public records requests, efforts by both the manufacturers and police to slow the wave appear to be largely ineffective.

    Equipped with only a screwdriver and a USB cord and watching one or two tutorials, pretty much anyone can steal a Kia or Hyundai without an immobilizer. In several lawsuits filed by U.S. cities against Kia and Hyundai, plaintiffs allege the thefts are mostly done by teenagers, some too young to legally drive, for joyriding, crashing, vandalizing, or in some cases to then commit other crimes.

    Through August 2023, 35 percent of the 19,448 stolen cars in Chicago have been Kias or Hyundais.

    The scale of the Kia and Hyundai theft problem is astounding. In Chicago, during the “old normal” days prior to the summer of 2022, six to eight percent of all stolen cars were Kias or Hyundais, according to data obtained by Motherboard. This was in line with how many Kias and Hyundais were on Chicago’s roads, according to the lawsuit Chicago filed against Kia and Hyundai. Then, in June 2022, the percentage of stolen cars that were Kias and Hyundais edged up to 11 percent. In July, it more than doubled to 25 percent. By November, it had almost doubled again, to 48 percent. Through August 2023, the most recent month for which Motherboard has data, 35 percent of the 19,448 stolen cars in Chicago have been Kias or Hyundais.

    The trend across cities

    The trend of Kias and Hyundais becoming a large proportion of a city’s stolen vehicle fleet is almost universal. In Denver, Kias and Hyundais went from about seven percent of all stolen vehicles in 2020 to an average of 26 percent the two years afterwards. Only 57 Kias and Hyundais were stolen in Denver in July 2020. Two years later, 464 were stolen, a 714 percent increase.

    In Atlanta, a whopping 64 percent of the stolen cars in May 2023 were Kias and Hyundais, up from just six percent a year earlier.

    According to a lawsuit filed by the city of Columbus, attempted annual Hyundai and Kia thefts increased 21,400 percent (from four to 860) in just one year. Actual thefts increased 494 percent. A public records request with Columbus for more detailed data has not yet been fulfilled.

    Even Chicago’s surge can’t compare to what happened in Milwaukee, which is largely cited as the epicenter of the trend. According to a lawsuit filed by the city, Kia-Hyundai thefts increased 2,500 percent in June 2021 versus a year prior. In September of that year, more than 5,100 Kia-Hyundais were stolen, more than two-thirds of all stolen cars in the city. Through mid-2023, Kia-Hyundais still made up 52 percent of all car thefts, although the overall number of stolen cars has declined about 30 percent from its peak.

    Some cities are getting hit harder than others

    Still, there are important differences in how the theft trend is—and isn’t—spreading. Some cities are getting hit harder than others for reasons that aren’t clear. For example, San Diego has had only a modest increase in Kia and Hyundai thefts, relatively speaking, amounting to a couple dozen additional stolen cars a month. The same is true of Fort Worth, Texas and Bakersfield, California. Tulsa wasn’t able to provide Motherboard with any data because their systems are still recovering from a hack that prevents them from tabulating such data, according to Lieutenant Chase Calhoun of the auto theft unit, but he said their most stolen vehicles remain Ford F-150 and Chevy Silverado pickups.

    Perhaps the most interesting outlier from the dataset so far is Denver, which saw an early, sustained, and relatively gradual increase in Kia-Hyundai thefts throughout 2020, 2021, and 2022. This is in contrast to most other cities that saw sharp spikes within a period of a few months more indicative of an online fad.

    When Motherboard asked if they had any theories why this was, a spokesperson for the Denver Police Department said, “Anecdotally, we do believe social media videos contributed to the increase in Hyundai and Kia thefts in Denver, but it’s difficult to know the extent of that influence on these crime trends. We also believe the social media videos encouraged young people who wouldn’t otherwise try to steal a car, to do just that.”

    Auto theft is what they call a “keystone crime,”

    If this is true, it would be a problematic development for cities. Some criminologists believe auto theft is what they call a “keystone crime,” which encourages and facilitates other crimes. Local news reports in pretty much every affected city refer to crashes, robberies, and deaths involving stolen Kias and Hyundais. In a court filing, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison said that last year, “thefts of Hyundai and Kia vehicles were tied to at least 5 homicides, 13 shootings, 36 robberies, and 265 motor vehicle collisions” and nine people died in reckless driving crashes involving the vehicles, all of which was in Minneapolis alone.

    Videos of these crimes are easy to find on social media. Many of the videos are posted under burner accounts with handles that begin with the city’s area code followed by some version of “Kia Boys”, “Kia Boyz,” “Hyundai Boys,” and so on.

    The vast majority of the hundreds of accounts reviewed by Motherboard have less than a hundred followers, and most of their posts have single or low double-digit likes. Most of the videos show people driving cars, often erratically, swerving repeatedly, accelerating quickly, and otherwise joyriding.

    However, a tutorial from an account with a Fort Worth area code went viral with more than 11,000 likes. And several accounts with Milwaukee and Minneapolis area codes regularly rack up tens of thousands of likes on their posts. Instagram did not respond to a Motherboard request for comment. A TikTok spokesperson said the platform’s community guidelines don’t allow “any violent threats, incitement to violence, or promotion of criminal activities that may harm people, animals, or property” and they encourage users to report potential violations.

    About two million of the nine million vehicles vulnerable to theft cannot receive the software update

    At first, the companies tried to sell an aftermarket anti-theft device through their dealer network for $170 plus labor to install. Starting in February, Kia and Hyundai released software updates the companies say provide an “ignition kill” feature that ought to prevent theft, provided free steering wheel locks, and partnered with AAA insurers because many insurance companies stopped selling policies for the affected vehicles.

    About two million of the nine million vehicles vulnerable to theft cannot receive the software update. As of July, Carfax reported about five million vehicles still remained vulnerable to theft either because they hadn’t gotten the software update or were not eligible. But there have been reports in Buffalo and Washington, D.C. of vehicles with the software update still being stolen.

    However, several cities have experienced a surge in thefts or are maintaining historically high rates of theft well after the software update was released

    Louisville hit a new record of stolen Kias and Hyundais (335) in July, 53 percent of all vehicles stolen in the city. San Diego and Sacramento have also experienced record-high Kia and Hyundai thefts in recent months. So have Fort Worth and Atlanta.

    When asked why the cars keep being stolen in record numbers despite the software update, a Hyundai spokesperson says the company has upgraded “almost a million vehicles” with the software update and “have not seen any confirmed failures of the software. It is working as designed.” After this story was first published, a Kia spokesperson told Motheboard, “We remain confident the software upgrade we developed works to combat the method of theft popularized on social media and further enhance the vehicle’s security by restricting the operation of the ignition system while the vehicle is locked and the alarm system is armed.”

    Data sources

    So far, publicly available data on the Kia and Hyundai thefts has been limited and spotty. To better understand the scale and impact of the Kia and Hyundai thefts, Motherboard asked the police departments for the 100 most populous cities in the U.S. for car theft data and filed public records requests with the cities that either declined to provide it or didn’t respond. So far, Motherboard has received complete data from 10 cities, with additional data from several others. This story also includes data from lawsuits filed by 17 cities against Kia and Hyundai regarding the theft wave. This story will be updated as we receive more data from open records requests.

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    1. woflmao
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      Hey nothing to add other than this format of article summary is very cool and good!

      Hey nothing to add other than this format of article summary is very cool and good!

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    bengine
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    Something feels off with the way this data is presented here. I'm extremely skeptical anytime someone decides that using percentage figures in the thousands is the best way to objectively...

    Something feels off with the way this data is presented here. I'm extremely skeptical anytime someone decides that using percentage figures in the thousands is the best way to objectively represent data. That's an easy way to skew perception of an issue by a factor of 100.

    The cities included aren't adjusted for car registration differences between cities which could have a major impact especially considering pandemic effects. They requested data from 100 cities, and got back data from 8 (missing percentages from El Paso and Virginia Beach in these data, despite their claim of 10). By only including a small set of easily obtained data it could be easily skewed. If the data is readily available in those cities but not in others, maybe they recognize the problem they have and could be outliers rather than a national indicator. They even exclude the largest city they have data on because it's so much of an outlier (Chicago).

    Stolen car rates are not up by 10 percent, or 20 percent, or even 50 percent. In many cities, they are up hundreds of percentage points, Motherboard has found. Rates of stolen Kias and Hyundais in particular are up thousands of percentage points.

    Sounds like car theft is out of control, up by hundreds or thousands of percent across the board. Except the data demonstrating the thousands of percent claims in Columbus and Milwaukee aren't included, and the source is from two lawsuit filings which inherently are biased. Let alone they say 'many cities' meaning how many out of the only 8 they have data on? The data only shows it increasing significantly in Atlanta, Denver, Omaha, and Portland otherwise overall auto theft is stable or decreasing (nice work Sacramento).

    When they do discuss specific numbers:

    Only 57 Kias and Hyundais were stolen in Denver in July 2020. Two years later, 464 were stolen, a 714 percent increase.

    Denver went from ~9000 auto thefts in 2020 to ~14000 in 2022 (using their data) and without HMG autos it went from ~8100 to ~9500 respectively. Denver is the arguably the worst case in this data depending on how you slice it and even then it's not hundreds or thousands of percentage points Year-over-Year.

    This is in contrast to most other cities that saw sharp spikes within a period of a few months more indicative of an online fad.

    How do they know most other cities showed this kind of spike, they only have data on 8 out of all the cities in the USA.

    efforts by both the manufacturers and police to slow the wave appear to be largely ineffective.

    Insufficient data to make claim

    My point really isn't that there isn't an increase in auto theft in some specific cities, or that Hyundai Motor Group doesn't deserve all the shame we can muster for making cars a toddler can steal. It's more that adding graphs to an article doesn't mean the author did a good job collecting or analyzing data, and throwing broad qualifiers implying large national trends ('many cities', 'problematic for cities', 'pretty much every', 'pretty much anyone', 'most other cities', 'if this is true') doesn't make an objective news article.

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    1. Stranger
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      You're not wrong, but I will say this anecdotally: My Kia Sportage was stolen out of my driveway in broad daylight last year. It was found stripped to the frame, and when I went to the impound lot...

      You're not wrong, but I will say this anecdotally:

      My Kia Sportage was stolen out of my driveway in broad daylight last year. It was found stripped to the frame, and when I went to the impound lot to see what was left of it, the lot was Kias as far as the eye could see. The lot attendant told me that was 90% of what they were getting in. That was the first I'd heard about it, and more than anything else I'm pissed off that that's how I had to find out. Kia should have been more proactive when they knew about the issue, and now I'll never buy another Kia for it.

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