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TV Tuesdays Free Talk
Have you watched any TV shows recently you want to discuss? Any shows you want to recommend or are hyped about? Feel free to discuss anything here.
Please just try to provide fair warning of spoilers if you can.
I just finished the 2nd season of Bored To Death - an oblique take on a private detective case of the week show. More theatrically camp than noir but such a refreshing angle to take. Witty, fresh and entertaining with a light hearted study of relationships and their ups and downs - life's vicissitudes as my English teacher was fond of saying.
Created by Jonathan Ames. It was only after I finished that I saw that he created Blunt Talk too - which I also thoroughly enjoyed - for its similarly sidelong approach aimed at Network News.
Looking forward to catching up on the 3rd and final season next week.
If you haven't already, check out Ames' novels... they're a trip. A lot of the same themes as both series, especially Blunt Talk.
I haven't and I will. Any favourite or that you particularly enjoyed?
I started with Bored to Death: A Noir-otic Story because of the series. I think its my favorite overall, but others like I Love You More Than You Know were pretty good
I have a month left on my Apple TV trial. So far I've found some pretty good shows on there, but the discoverability of their Sony TV app is really bad. Anything I shouldn’t miss? I’ve watched Ted Lasso, Prehistoric Planet, Shantaram, and Shrinking so far and enjoyed all of them.
did you get Severance? That's definitely worth a watch with a second season out sometime in the next few months.
If you're in the UK or you steal your telvision, The Gold is worth a watch. I think its slowly releasing in North America, but I have no idea where.
The series isn't anything special, but its enjoyable
Decent actors (including the blond stud from Slow Horses), good pace.. worth a watch if you've got a space to fill.
Wu Tang: An American Saga is back and... still good. There are a lot of issues with this show, but for its final season, its nice to see things come together. The actors have done a good enough job covering the tracks, too. its nice that they let them do that instead of just using the original.
Here are some other shows on my
radarsonar...r:Hello Tomorrow (Comedy, Drama, tonight) - In a retro-futuristic world, charismatic salesman Jack Billings leads a team of fellow sales associates determined to revitalize their customers' lives by hawking timeshares on the moon.Pretty show, but also pretty predictable.I've given in and gotten a subscription to Dropout.tv, mostly to watch people in their mid 30s okay daily games with each other because I saw one too many clips of Brennan Lee Mulligan on Gamechanger.
I've now binge watched many episodes of Gamechanger, and recently finished the episode guest starring Giancarlo Esposito, which was amazing.
After Trevor Noah's snoozefest I didn't think The Daily Show could be saved, but then they got Sarah Silverman as a guest host! The woman is delightfully cheeky, a comedy genius, and sharp as a tack. She breathed new life into the show. There will be a number of guest hosts, Jeopardy style. Hopefully, they'll keep her!
I was talking to a bud about this today. I think the show benefits from rotating hosts. Silverman was on Conan's podcast and mentioned she was hosting, so I tuned in. Like you said, she crushed it.
Its not unlike when Kimmel had to take some time away. Kristen Bell was excellent and brings a different perspective to interviews.
Political commentary wears people down, John Stewart talked about this. It's probably a good idea to swap hosts after they get too jaded. Trevor Noah left for good, so they're looking to fill a more permanent position.
My husband and I got COVID and have been quarantining, so we've had a lot more TV time than we normally do:
The Traitors (US), Season 1 and The Traitors (UK), Season 1
A new reality elimination series that's essentially the Werewolf/Mafia party elimination game in TV form, with Agatha Christie vibes. The premise is that there are two teams: The Faithfuls, and The Traitors. They all work together, but only the Traitors know each others' identities. Each night the Traitors "murder" (eliminate) a player, and each evening, the whole group has a roundtable discussion and votes one player out. That player then reveals if they were a Faithful or a Traitor.
At the end of the series, the Faithfuls can choose to end the game if they believe they have eliminated all the Traitors, or they can continue voting rounds. If only Faithfuls remain, they all split the prize money. If even one Traitor remains among them, the Traitor takes all the money.
The UK and US versions are almost carbon copies of one another, with the same setting and almost all the same challenges used for each. The US version is hosted by Alan Cumming (in consistently fantastic outfits) and the UK version is hosted by Claudia Winkleman (I know this is heresy, but I liked her better as a host than Cumming).
The UK series is the better version though, because for the US they made half the cast minor celebrities from other reality shows. They get way more screentime than the everyday participants, which undersells half the cast of characters. Plus, many of the celebrities don't really need the money and are just there to make TV, which takes some of the drama out of it.
Both are still enjoyable watches, though my husband and I have some strong feelings on the formatting of the show (i.e. it is WAY too imbalanced, and the challenges should be related to the show itself, not just spectacle). If they do some tweaks to the format, it could be one of our favorites in upcoming seasons. There's a lot of promise, but it's definitely not there yet.
The Bridge (2020), Season 1
This is another reality game show where 12 strangers live in the wilderness next to a lake. There's an island in the middle of the lake, and if they're able to build a bridge to it in 20 days, they get to keep it.
My husband and I ended up not liking this at all.
It might be my own fault for not looking into the premise of the series enough, but I really thought this was going to be a cooperative show. In many ways it almost is, which would have been nice, but it's completely ruined by unnecessary gimmicks that exist just for "drama" (e.g. chances to sabotage the group, only one person gets to take the money at the end, forced eliminations, etc.).
The premise already has enough built-in drama: the people literally have to cook all their own meals, chop all the wood, build each section of the bridge, even empty out their own outhouses, etc. It would have been way more interesting to watch a show that focused on those elements and had genuinely inspiring cooperation and interesting logistics, as well as the natural interpersonal conflicts that come from the stress and fatigue of such an exhausting undertaking with strangers.
The tone of the show was all wrong. Also, it's only a short 6 episodes, and the editing for the different participants is wildly imbalanced. For example, there's one contestant that's very clearly made out to be a "heel" and gets way more confessional time than they should because they talk almost exclusively about manipulating others and jockeying for position. By the end of it, I still didn't feel like I really got to know or connect with, like, half of the cast. Some of the actions people took made no sense because the show didn't give us the groundwork for why they made those decisions. I think this was done to create "drama" or "surprise", but it ended up feeling cheap -- just like the show's forced "plot twists".
It would be a way better show without the unnecessary conflict, but I know that's not how television works, unfortunately.
Double posting instead of just editing my above comment because I'm not sure if mentions work when put in edits or not.
Fleabag, Season 1 and 2
@cloud_loud put this on my radar back when I watched I May Destroy You. After having watched it, I agree with cloud_loud and think it's undoubtedly the better of the two shows, but I still like I May Destroy You (and also I agree that there's only a surface level similarity -- the two shouldn't really be compared to one another, IMO).
Anyway, Fleabag is a delight. Phoebe Waller-Bridge does a fantastic job with both the acting and the writing. It's funny; it's clever; it's insightful; and it's genuinely resonant in a few places. The fourth-wall breaks aren't a crutch, and, without getting too spoilery, turn out to be much more than just a cute gimmick.
At only 12 episodes total (6 each season), it's a good "bang for your buck" series in terms of time. Does everything it sets out to do quickly but without feeling rushed, and it doesn't overstay its welcome in the slightest.
Yeah Fleabag’s awesome. Looking back I think it’s actually the best show from the 2010s, and in many ways might be the definitive show of that decade.
It’s interesting to see the reputation it’s had since its second season. Because I had watched it before it became massively hyped online in 2019. I knew during the first season that I was watching something special, but I had on idea how big culturally it would be.