Okay, so you're going to hear a lot of opinions about Star Trek, so I'm going to do my best not to overwhelm you. Movies! You're already pretty well informed about TOS and TNG, the Animated Series...
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Okay, so you're going to hear a lot of opinions about Star Trek, so I'm going to do my best not to overwhelm you.
Movies!
You're already pretty well informed about TOS and TNG, the Animated Series is fun but not super important, and since you're already into Nemesis, all you need to know is that Galaxy Quest came out in '99 and that's the reason that both Insurrection and Nemesis weren't that great, and of the reboot trilogy, 1 and 3 were good. It factors into the odd-even rule.
Deep Space 9!
Onto spinoff shows, Deep Space 9 is the Star Trek for fancy people who weren't into Babylon 5, because who in their right mind would want to watch a serialized space opera in the 90's? Watch if you are into characters developing over the course of a series, but not quite outside the grip of syndication.
Voyager!
Lots of people have Voyager as their favorite series, and that is okay. You wouldn't let them take you out to dinner because they would get you McDonald's, but they are fine people. If you like rewarmed TNG, watch the Orville, if you like the idea of a ship far away from home, watch the Battlestar Galactica reboot, and if you want to get into Voyager for academic reasons, I recommend SFDebris' "Opinionated Star Trek Guide," he's been covering the meta longer than just about anyone.
Enterprise!
If you feel unyielding frustration and rage at the idea of a prequel to TOS that introduces new elements and events that wildly change the world of the show but can't possibly be referenced, I want you to take all of those feelings about Enterprise, and put them into Discovery. We used to hate Enterprise, and now it's a hidden gem that sorted itself out in it's last season and was cut off before it's time, and is one of the only series canon in both the original and revival movies, for reasons.
Discovery and the Future!
Discovery is another prequel series that has no reason to exist and involves characters and events from TOS, *and* is launching CBS's dumb pay for service, so it's where all the rage goes now. We like who they got for who's playing Pike though, and would like a spinoff with him and the Enterprise in the same period. Optimistic for Lower Decks and Discovery Season 3 as well, but just waiting for them to screw it up.
That should get you up to speed with everything Star Trek, if you have any questions, go to this trailers YouTube comments and ask if you should be optimistic about this, someone's bound to help you out.
EDIT: Folders and clarification notes about where Enterprise is in the original and rebooted canon.
re: Voyager, there are also some pet theories that Tom Paris is disgraced cadet first class Nicholas Locarno, who you saw in TNG when he got Wes to do that dangerous formation. My theory is that...
re: Voyager, there are also some pet theories that Tom Paris is disgraced cadet first class Nicholas Locarno, who you saw in TNG when he got Wes to do that dangerous formation.
My theory is that Nick was formally cast out of Star Fleet, and was 'adopted' by Owen Paris who used his shadow connections to get him back into Star Fleet under an assumed name... the name of his dead son.
Tom Paris is a hot shot pilot much like Locarno was.
In truth and in our reality, it all came down to money --- but I like my theory and the other theories more. :)
For me and (I think) quite a few others, DS9 is big favorite. It's not quite the Roddenberry utopia of TOS and TNG, but it has some phenomenal writing. First season is a little bumpy, but that's...
I've heard a lot of mixed feelings about virtually every series produced after TNG.
For me and (I think) quite a few others, DS9 is big favorite. It's not quite the Roddenberry utopia of TOS and TNG, but it has some phenomenal writing. First season is a little bumpy, but that's true of basically all the Treks.
VOY wasn't for me either. I was excited for having a scientist captain, but Janeway never seemed quite right for the position. Overall, Voyager has a novel premise but the writing doesn't do it...
VOY wasn't for me either. I was excited for having a scientist captain, but Janeway never seemed quite right for the position.
Overall, Voyager has a novel premise but the writing doesn't do it justice. Part of the problem is the guaranteed reset that occurs at the start of every episode. There's a few crew changes, but it never felt like they were in much genuine danger.
It's not a bad watch by any means. I still enjoy all the Treks. I just think VOY is the least consistently good one.
If you like the premise and want to capture that "desperately lost in space" feeling, Battlestar Galactica (reboot) is fantastic. A very different beast than Star Trek but still great.
I admit to a great deal of bias, but Deep Space Nine is a must-see. It's definitely a darker take on Star Trek, without losing the optimism. Plus, none of the side characters feel like side...
I admit to a great deal of bias, but Deep Space Nine is a must-see. It's definitely a darker take on Star Trek, without losing the optimism. Plus, none of the side characters feel like side characters. Everyone is important, and you can't (Neelix) say that about all (Neelix) characters in Star Trek.
So, looks like they're bringing Riker back for at least a send off party. Kinda feels a little like they're introducing a new X-Men team, but they still have Professor X running operations and...
So, looks like they're bringing Riker back for at least a send off party.
Kinda feels a little like they're introducing a new X-Men team, but they still have Professor X running operations and what not. Maybe it's just cause the two franchises share an lynchpin actor. Also, maybe it's just that the Battlestar Galactica reboot came out at a very formative time for me, but eff if all scifi tv and movies doesn't look like Battlestar now.
It doesn’t surprise me. Johnathan Frakes has stayed involved with the franchise behind the scenes (he’s directed quite a few episodes of Discovery). It’ll be interesting to see if it is just a one...
It doesn’t surprise me. Johnathan Frakes has stayed involved with the franchise behind the scenes (he’s directed quite a few episodes of Discovery).
It’ll be interesting to see if it is just a one off thing or if he’ll be a more integral character.
If you haven't already, his commentaries for the Trek films he directed are fun. He's really critical of his own work and the overall finished product, while not being harsh about it -- if that...
If you haven't already, his commentaries for the Trek films he directed are fun. He's really critical of his own work and the overall finished product, while not being harsh about it -- if that makes any sense.
He also directed two episodes of The Orville and will do two for Picard.
Mirrors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvKBeOKvblI - UK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPoGrTmO_nM - CAN
Okay, so you're going to hear a lot of opinions about Star Trek, so I'm going to do my best not to overwhelm you.
Movies!
You're already pretty well informed about TOS and TNG, the Animated Series is fun but not super important, and since you're already into Nemesis, all you need to know is that Galaxy Quest came out in '99 and that's the reason that both Insurrection and Nemesis weren't that great, and of the reboot trilogy, 1 and 3 were good. It factors into the odd-even rule.Deep Space 9!
Onto spinoff shows, Deep Space 9 is the Star Trek for fancy people who weren't into Babylon 5, because who in their right mind would want to watch a serialized space opera in the 90's? Watch if you are into characters developing over the course of a series, but not quite outside the grip of syndication.Voyager!
Lots of people have Voyager as their favorite series, and that is okay. You wouldn't let them take you out to dinner because they would get you McDonald's, but they are fine people. If you like rewarmed TNG, watch the Orville, if you like the idea of a ship far away from home, watch the Battlestar Galactica reboot, and if you want to get into Voyager for academic reasons, I recommend SFDebris' "Opinionated Star Trek Guide," he's been covering the meta longer than just about anyone.Enterprise!
If you feel unyielding frustration and rage at the idea of a prequel to TOS that introduces new elements and events that wildly change the world of the show but can't possibly be referenced, I want you to take all of those feelings about Enterprise, and put them into Discovery. We used to hate Enterprise, and now it's a hidden gem that sorted itself out in it's last season and was cut off before it's time, and is one of the only series canon in both the original and revival movies, for reasons.Discovery and the Future!
Discovery is another prequel series that has no reason to exist and involves characters and events from TOS, *and* is launching CBS's dumb pay for service, so it's where all the rage goes now. We like who they got for who's playing Pike though, and would like a spinoff with him and the Enterprise in the same period. Optimistic for Lower Decks and Discovery Season 3 as well, but just waiting for them to screw it up.EDIT: Folders and clarification notes about where Enterprise is in the original and rebooted canon.
re: Voyager, there are also some pet theories that Tom Paris is disgraced cadet first class Nicholas Locarno, who you saw in TNG when he got Wes to do that dangerous formation.
My theory is that Nick was formally cast out of Star Fleet, and was 'adopted' by Owen Paris who used his shadow connections to get him back into Star Fleet under an assumed name... the name of his dead son.
Tom Paris is a hot shot pilot much like Locarno was.
In truth and in our reality, it all came down to money --- but I like my theory and the other theories more. :)
I recommend checking out The Orville as well. To me it’s a suitable modern TNG, with better comedic timing.
For me and (I think) quite a few others, DS9 is big favorite. It's not quite the Roddenberry utopia of TOS and TNG, but it has some phenomenal writing. First season is a little bumpy, but that's true of basically all the Treks.
VOY wasn't for me either. I was excited for having a scientist captain, but Janeway never seemed quite right for the position.
Overall, Voyager has a novel premise but the writing doesn't do it justice. Part of the problem is the guaranteed reset that occurs at the start of every episode. There's a few crew changes, but it never felt like they were in much genuine danger.
It's not a bad watch by any means. I still enjoy all the Treks. I just think VOY is the least consistently good one.
If you like the premise and want to capture that "desperately lost in space" feeling, Battlestar Galactica (reboot) is fantastic. A very different beast than Star Trek but still great.
I admit to a great deal of bias, but Deep Space Nine is a must-see. It's definitely a darker take on Star Trek, without losing the optimism. Plus, none of the side characters feel like side characters. Everyone is important, and you can't (Neelix) say that about all (Neelix) characters in Star Trek.
So, looks like they're bringing Riker back for at least a send off party.
Kinda feels a little like they're introducing a new X-Men team, but they still have Professor X running operations and what not. Maybe it's just cause the two franchises share an lynchpin actor. Also, maybe it's just that the Battlestar Galactica reboot came out at a very formative time for me, but eff if all scifi tv and movies doesn't look like Battlestar now.
It doesn’t surprise me. Johnathan Frakes has stayed involved with the franchise behind the scenes (he’s directed quite a few episodes of Discovery).
It’ll be interesting to see if it is just a one off thing or if he’ll be a more integral character.
If you haven't already, his commentaries for the Trek films he directed are fun. He's really critical of his own work and the overall finished product, while not being harsh about it -- if that makes any sense.
He also directed two episodes of The Orville and will do two for Picard.