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  1. Comment on Elon Musk on tomatoes in ~food

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    I have followed Elon for a reasonably long time. I do not know how much of his original appearance was performative. He said he wanted to help the world and viewed himself as a superhero. When...

    I have followed Elon for a reasonably long time. I do not know how much of his original appearance was performative. He said he wanted to help the world and viewed himself as a superhero. When people rightly said they didn't want his help, and that if he was genuinely interested in bettering humanity he should start in his own backyard and work to improve the lives of people who worked for him. Something inside him seemed to break. He became unstable. His anger and angst began to flail about. As you say, continuing to give him a voice is unhelpful. He has show that he will use his voice to lash out.

    10 votes

  2. Comment on Suggestion for a new label: "Misinformation" in ~tildes

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    I absolutely respect your desire to remove yourself from a conversation whenever you want. The only reason I referenced the deleted comment was to highlight that my comments might be missing some...

    I absolutely respect your desire to remove yourself from a conversation whenever you want. The only reason I referenced the deleted comment was to highlight that my comments might be missing some context clues.

    4 votes

  3. Comment on Suggestion for a new label: "Misinformation" in ~tildes

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    To be clear, I did not imply nor state "DefinitelyNotAFae" used it for this either. Good faith is important. This is my fear of how this label will be used if left wide open.

    To be clear, I did not imply nor state "DefinitelyNotAFae" used it for this either. Good faith is important.

    This is my fear of how this label will be used if left wide open.

    4 votes

  4. Comment on Suggestion for a new label: "Misinformation" in ~tildes

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    I agree, any change we make about how we as a community operate should be a discussion. I dislike when people take it upon themselves to intentionally misuse tools at an individual level. I agree...

    I agree, any change we make about how we as a community operate should be a discussion. I dislike when people take it upon themselves to intentionally misuse tools at an individual level. I agree that there are often (what I would consider) very very low effort posts getting exemplary. I don't feel like that impacts a conversation as much the noise label specifically. I feel that the noise label is the most weaponizable because it removes a comment and its whole tree from casual viewing. As such I think this tag should be treated with the most care when being deployed. I really strongly feel that using the noise label as "I very strongly don't agree and think you are wrong label" will kill discussions.

    I think adding a "contested" label, similar to the "exemplary" label would be my preferred solution; even though I do believe it will also be used against intent as a "dislike" button. At least in the case of a visible label the comment itself isn't hidden from view.

    2 votes

  5. Comment on Suggestion for a new label: "Misinformation" in ~tildes

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    I really do like Tildes as a community, and its values are important to me. I frankly get worried sometimes when there is an influx of new users that have to integrate. I sincerely hope that...

    I really do like Tildes as a community, and its values are important to me. I frankly get worried sometimes when there is an influx of new users that have to integrate. I sincerely hope that Deimos can continue to run this site for a long time to come. This has become my refuge of real conversation in a world increasingly shouted down by algorithms and ai "content". I have my own fluxes of when I am able to comment, even just having a place to be minimally globally connected is nice though.

    I agree that label definitions will by their nature be self interpreted. I just hope that people do not start using the tools of this site to weaponize content. The intent of the person doing the clicking matters. Are they acting to better the site and uphold the values of the community, or are they trying to manipulate the system to further their own goals?

    10 votes

  6. Comment on Suggestion for a new label: "Misinformation" in ~tildes

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    Abuse by another name. You also no not believe that a misinformation label can be used charitably. We can call it misuse it the terminology is the sticking point. Having someone misuse an...

    Abuse by another name. You also no not believe that a misinformation label can be used charitably. We can call it misuse it the terminology is the sticking point. Having someone misuse an exemplary label and then having someone misuse a noise label does not cancel them out. When someone says, "I am not using these for their intended purpose", and seems to be encouraging other to do the same I think it warrants comment. You are right in that intent of the person is the only thing we can judge them on.

    8 votes

  7. Comment on Suggestion for a new label: "Misinformation" in ~tildes

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    I also generally assume good faith till proven otherwise. I have sadly seen people abuse the noise label. My only hope is that the tools can be removed for the people who are shown to abuse them...

    I also generally assume good faith till proven otherwise. I have sadly seen people abuse the noise label. My only hope is that the tools can be removed for the people who are shown to abuse them rather than removed from the site at large.

    4 votes

  8. Comment on Suggestion for a new label: "Misinformation" in ~tildes

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    I value self governance, and the tools for everyone to help maintain this site. I would be sad to see tools removed because they were abused. In the comment I replied to you implied you use the...

    I value self governance, and the tools for everyone to help maintain this site. I would be sad to see tools removed because they were abused. In the comment I replied to you implied you use the noise label against false information, not just low effort content.

    I do use the noise label that way, just not necessarily announcing I'm using the label vs "this is false information"

    On the "commenting on Tildes section" they given examples of how they intended the tags to be used and even how they impact a comment. https://docs.tildes.net/instructions/commenting-on-tildes

    The relevant bit to this conversation is the noise tag.

    The "Noise" label is for comments which make no difference to the discussion. These might include remarks such as "This^" or "Thanks." or "Good news!" or "This sucks."
    The "Noise" label is not visible on comments.
    If the Noise label is active on a comment, it will cause the comment to be sorted below unlabelled and Offtopic replies, acting as if it had -2 total votes. Also, the comment will be autocollapsed, so that it is hidden (all its child comments will also be hidden). Collapsed comments can be manually expanded and viewed.

    I also find comments on this site that I believe are detracting from intent of the site. I believe that as long as it's in good faith discussion is important, but some comments are clearly not in good faith. I also do my best with the tool provided and use the mailce label, and give my reason. Sometimes Deimos agrees with me, sometimes not. At least using the malice label is it a two person review, versus the noise label which applies the effects immediately, unilaterally, and impacts everyone's experience on the site.

    11 votes

  9. Comment on Suggestion for a new label: "Misinformation" in ~tildes

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    Since the original comment has been deleted I can only guess what It says. Please do not use the noise label for on topic posts that contain information you don't believe to be correct. The noise...

    Since the original comment has been deleted I can only guess what It says. Please do not use the noise label for on topic posts that contain information you don't believe to be correct. The noise label is for comments that are very low effort and don't add addition content to a conversation. Just as the exemplary label isn't a super upvote button, the noise label is not a super disagree button. Using the noise label hides a comment chain for everyone. This is the opposite of what this post wants. The noise label is an easily abusable system that gives each individual user a lot of power to help police the site. If it is becomes used routinely used in the way you have described it is likely that the tool will be removed.

    20 votes

  10. Comment on If AI is sentient then so is ‘Age of Empires II’ in ~tech

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    I agree. Consciousness scales with complexity. I'm not sure exactly what that line looks like either. Even just looking at a human. I think we can agree that a single brain cell kept alive in a...

    I agree. Consciousness scales with complexity. I'm not sure exactly what that line looks like either. Even just looking at a human. I think we can agree that a single brain cell kept alive in a petri dish would be unlikely to be conscious. So there must be a threshold. Humans are complex with hormone squirting glands and electric signal flinging brain cells. How much, and what parts are needed to support consciousness?

    5 votes

  11. Comment on We can fix the future, Star Trek shows us how in ~humanities

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    I think we are more or less on the same page. I don't think star trek is less coherent than solarpunk. All fictional settings will hand way away the parts they don't have answers too. The...

    I think we are more or less on the same page. I don't think star trek is less coherent than solarpunk. All fictional settings will hand way away the parts they don't have answers too. The technological problems are usually not the hard part though, it's people.

    If people are what is really slowing things down, then inspiration is really important. The actors will often speak about conventions. There are doctors, scientists, engineers, film makers etc because of star trek. These are the people who will trudge through the hard work of making society better because they were inspired.

    If you ONLY watch tv there are problems, but stories are very human. From the first time we sat around a fire imagining a place where our bellies were full, and our families safe. Stories are at their best when they inspire us to do great things.

    3 votes

  12. Comment on We can fix the future, Star Trek shows us how in ~humanities

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    Star trek is absolutely just a huge media empire. It is a fictional setting created to explore societal and philosophical issues without the baggage that comes from a more grounded setting. If it...

    Star trek is absolutely just a huge media empire. It is a fictional setting created to explore societal and philosophical issues without the baggage that comes from a more grounded setting. If it seems fantastical, I think it is by design. As you also say, there have also been countless writers and creative directors over the years that have different visions, so there also isn't a cohesive and singular message.

    I think a lot of the tech is "hand-wave-ium". As the story goes teleporters were created because there wasn't time or money to make a shuttle. I think the idea is that the story being told is paramount, and the tech fills in the gap to make that possible. Universal translators, replicators, warp drive, teleporters, latinum : whatever is needed. I still think there are some poignant ideas that transcend the setting. I personally don't think the stories would benefit from deep dives into the logistics of moving resources around for advanced 3d printers, instead of just saying replicators.

    I am also reminded of Arthur C Clarke's quote "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." I think quibbling on the magical properties of technology from the distant future is ultimately unproductive. It is interesting to look at how people in the 1800s thought we would be living today, versus where we wound up. Technology will likely move in ways we cannot predict. Since tech will ultimately end up as "magic" to us anyways, there is no real benefit to trying to explain it away.

    I think any story is going to have unbelievable elements to it. Perhaps you are more comfortable with those elements in solarpunk because the technology is more familiar. In my opinion the hard problems for star trek are the same ones you say are attainable for solarpunk. "Equitable distribution of resources and living sustainable using technology." These are some of the hardest problems that humanity has faced.

    As a species we do not know how to live sustainably. We use irreplaceable resources and always seem to desire more for less. Once we have that stockpile of endlessly replaceable resources how do we split it up? Whether we get it through super advance "magic" tech or more near future extrapolation, who gets it. This is the really hard part. The part that I think the original video is missing, and a point you touched on too. If two people want something, something that cannot be duplicated, how do we as a society choose who gets it.

    No matter the setting, I still think it is nice to image a future where people work together. Can we actually ever get there?

    5 votes

  13. Comment on To pay rent in Medieval England, catch some eels in ~food

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    I guess a lot of polarizing cuisine comes down to what you ate growing up. Jellied eel does not sound like something I would seek out, but clearly many did. stu2b50 says it not a strong taste,...

    I guess a lot of polarizing cuisine comes down to what you ate growing up. Jellied eel does not sound like something I would seek out, but clearly many did. stu2b50 says it not a strong taste, pair that with some decently flavoured sauce and sides maybe it's enough to get over the appearance.

    3 votes

  14. Comment on To pay rent in Medieval England, catch some eels in ~food

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    I went and looked up some pictures... For me, it does not look appealing. Entire cross sections of eel in greyish clear jelly. Ancestors were made of more grit and determination than me I think.

    I went and looked up some pictures... For me, it does not look appealing. Entire cross sections of eel in greyish clear jelly. Ancestors were made of more grit and determination than me I think.

    6 votes

  15. Comment on To pay rent in Medieval England, catch some eels in ~food

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    Canning comes later than medieval history, and even an eel apsic would probably only last a few cool days. I have to assume they were salting these eels? Or was it like I want 2 eels every Friday...

    Canning comes later than medieval history, and even an eel apsic would probably only last a few cool days. I have to assume they were salting these eels? Or was it like I want 2 eels every Friday as rent? I didn't see anything in the article about preservation.

    4 votes

  16. Comment on What do you think is the best sandwich? in ~food

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    My rule for offering input on language is heavily inspired by xkcd 1576. In short I try to only offer input to improve communication, because ultimately communication is hard. I am clearly not...

    My rule for offering input on language is heavily inspired by xkcd 1576. In short I try to only offer input to improve communication, because ultimately communication is hard. I am clearly not online enough to know about this argument. I would say though, if there is enough people to sustain an argument, there must be people on both sides. Accepting that English is determined by it's usage, all methods must be correct. The way the restaurant chose to label their sandwich is also more clear than your offerings. This is because of the ambiguity of the word "with". It can either mean accompanying or comprised of. For your two examples I would probably understand, but for different ingredients I think the ambiguity grows. If it was a "grilled cheese with apple slices" I would assume side dish. If it was a "grilled cheese with pepper jelly" I would assume dipping sauce. Ultimately the ambiguity would likely make me at least ask for clarification. My read on the original interaction was that DefinitelyNotAFae made an in-group joke and F13 played along.

    1 vote

  17. Comment on What do you think is the best sandwich? in ~food

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    I intentionally didn't reply directly to you since you originally expressed a desire not to discuss linguistics and only food. I'm glad you found something you enjoy.

    I intentionally didn't reply directly to you since you originally expressed a desire not to discuss linguistics and only food.

    I'm glad you found something you enjoy.

    3 votes

  18. Comment on What do you think is the best sandwich? in ~food

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    I appreciate your clarifications. It was the part in the comment I replied to you said that using grilled cheese in the narrow scope means that you are not part of the "speaker community" that...

    I appreciate your clarifications. It was the part in the comment I replied to you said that using grilled cheese in the narrow scope means that you are not part of the "speaker community" that made me feel discounted. Phrases like "not remotely reflect real-world language use" and "You can insist on using the word differently yourself, but that does not change how the word is used by the speaker community" definitely made me feel like you were trying to say anyone who disagreed with your usage was not part of the real-world speaker community. If someone asked me if I wanted a grilled cheese and It came with anything other than bread and cheese I would be confused (and for my personal tastes, disappointed). If people are using "grilled cheese" the same way I might use say "burger" I am in the dark to it. For me "burger" can refer to an entire family of sandwiches with endless topping variation each still being called only a "burger".

    1 vote

  19. Comment on What do you think is the best sandwich? in ~food

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    I'll start by saying I agree with language being descriptive. In English, how a word is used dictates its meaning, not the other way around. Where I might disagree with you is from my personal...

    I'll start by saying I agree with language being descriptive. In English, how a word is used dictates its meaning, not the other way around. Where I might disagree with you is from my personal experience. You have asserted that the original comment usage is common, and easily understood. From my personal experience, and common usage in my area, a "grilled cheese" is bread, cheese, fat. Anything else is served on the side for dipping. I was admittedly a little confused when reading the first description, just as F13 was. Like a garden-path sentence the list of ingredients was unexpected and required some mid sentence re-contextualizing. I was, however, still able to understand what was being said. If this "grilled cheese" discussion was not initiated in the original comment I would have likely just read it, figured out what they meant and moved on. There is something slightly dehumanizing to insist that my common usage is inherently not "real-world" usage, since for me it is the only usage I have known. Like F13 I have no preference for melt either, just that "grilled cheese" is unique in it's implied simplicity. If I were to name this I would have just split the grilled and cheese around the ingredients "grilled spicy apple bacon cheese sandwich".

  20. Comment on Her daughter was unraveling, and she didn’t know why. Then she found the AI chat logs. in ~tech

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    While you are probably right (governments tend to be slow to react) I fear a slow response to technology that so quickly iterates on itself might be more dangerous that other decisions we as a...

    While you are probably right (governments tend to be slow to react) I fear a slow response to technology that so quickly iterates on itself might be more dangerous that other decisions we as a society have faced.