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  1. Comment on Comment vote counts are now visible again in ~tildes.official

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    Not yet, though IIRC there is a GitLab issue for that Ninja edit: Issue 153

    Not yet, though IIRC there is a GitLab issue for that

    Ninja edit: Issue 153

    2 votes

  2. Comment on Comment vote counts are now visible again in ~tildes.official

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    While this is not as grave as on Reddit due to the options to highlight new comments and to collapse already viewed ones, I would suggest that users could change their default comment sorting...

    While this is not as grave as on Reddit due to the options to highlight new comments and to collapse already viewed ones, I would suggest that users could change their default comment sorting method (e.g., I would default to Newest First).

    4 votes

  3. Comment on Updates to "Activity" sorting method (the site's default) in ~tildes.official

    MetArtScroll Link Parent
    “Relevant/General Activity” vs “Any Activity”?

    “Relevant/General Activity” vs “Any Activity”?

    1 vote

  4. Comment on Updates to "Activity" sorting method (the site's default) in ~tildes.official

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    I would suggest not taking comments above a certain nesting level into account. This is not perfect, but if the threshold is level 10 then long conversations, even if on-topic, will not bump a topic.

    I would suggest not taking comments above a certain nesting level into account. This is not perfect, but if the threshold is level 10 then long conversations, even if on-topic, will not bump a topic.

    4 votes

  5. Comment on Suggestions on Labels in ~tildes

    MetArtScroll Link Parent
    This very much depends on the user's attitude. While seeing negative labels on their content, some would reflect on why they received such labels and adjust better, whereas others would instead...

    This very much depends on the user's attitude. While seeing negative labels on their content, some would reflect on why they received such labels and adjust better, whereas others would instead blame the labellers. I somehow think that the former ones prevail on Tildes, but see the comment thread here between cfabbro and me.

    As for new users, they can be classified into the same two types. For those who take the feedback into account, this suggestion (#2 as well as #3 and #4) will be extremely valuable for the reasons you described in your comment. For those who ignore the feedback and blame others, this will not change their bad behaviour and could lead to thread derailment as described in that comment thread. Very unfortunately, bad actors are usually new users as they typically get banned quite quickly.

    1 vote

  6. Comment on Suggestions on Labels in ~tildes

    MetArtScroll Link Parent
    On my side I can be wrong in overestimating the userbase (especially the future userbase). I am adding the time lag idea (both for the content, and, more importantly, for the user account age) to...

    On my side I can be wrong in overestimating the userbase (especially the future userbase).

    I am adding the time lag idea (both for the content, and, more importantly, for the user account age) to the topic post.

    2 votes

  7. Comment on Suggestions on Labels in ~tildes

    MetArtScroll (edited ) Link Parent
    Actually, the very reason why I numbered the suggestions is so that they could be considered separately.

    Actually, the very reason why I numbered the suggestions is so that they could be considered separately.

    1 vote

  8. Comment on Suggestions on Labels in ~tildes

    MetArtScroll Link Parent
    So would making labels visible to the labelled users after certain time (between 10 minutes and one day) solve this problem? Users will still see the valuable feedback, they will be able to...

    So would making labels visible to the labelled users after certain time (between 10 minutes and one day) solve this problem?

    Users will still see the valuable feedback, they will be able to observe and report true label abuse, but they will not be tempted to derail discussions.

    Edit:

    the person who has labels applied to their comments is generally not the most objective judge of that

    I definitely agree, but hopefully we are on Tildes and not on certain other social media. The whole collapse of the original comment tag system occurred when Tildes was about one month old.

    2 votes

  9. Comment on Suggestions on Labels in ~tildes

    MetArtScroll Link Parent
    I hope it is clear that I do not suggest that a user observes the labels given by other users to other users. This, when everyone could observe everything, indeed caused those issues with the...

    very likely end up

    I hope it is clear that I do not suggest that a user observes the labels given by other users to other users. This, when everyone could observe everything, indeed caused those issues with the original comment tag system.

    (Unless those issues included users complaining for unjustified labels, in which case I would prefer label abuse not to be hidden from the users abused.)

    1 vote

  10. Suggestions on Labels

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    Rationale: labels are a valuable way to receive and give feedback, so it would be useful to have more labels-related tools. This topic deals with labels received by an ordinary user or given by an...

    Rationale: labels are a valuable way to receive and give feedback, so it would be useful to have more labels-related tools.

    This topic deals with labels received by an ordinary user or given by an ordinary user from that user's point of view (as opposed to non-logged-in lurkers, other ordinary users, and users with elevated privileges).

    While labels presently only apply to comments, these suggestions would apply to topic labels when they are implemented, and to other labellable content types should any appear.

    The “Gilded” page—Issue 423

    Suggestion 1. Users can filter their user pages for content labelled Exemplary.

    Unlike all other suggestions, this also applies to users viewing other users' pages, and possibly even to lurkers viewing user pages.

    I also suggest that users have an option to automatically expand the Exemplary messages when they see their own Exemplary content.

    Other labels given TO the user

    The common point is that it would help if users observe the feedback given to them by others via labels. In addition, this would prevent label misuse and abuse.

    Suggestion 2. Users have an option to observe labels given to their own content along with the label counts.

    Suggestion 2a. If comment vote counts remain generally hidden, users should still be able to see the vote counts for their own comments.

    Suggestion 3. Users can filter their user pages for content labelled Malice (but, of course, they should not be able to see Malice messages).

    Suggestion 4. Users can filter their user pages for content with any label (maybe with further options like All labels vs “Non-major” ones).

    Edit: Suggestions 2, 3, and 4 might go with time lags. Namely, labels given to own content are only visible for content older than X minutes (X can be even 1440 or more) and to users with accounts older than Y days.

    Labels given BY the user

    Suggestion 5. Users have an option to automatically expand the label pane for the content they have already labelled.

    Suggestion 6. Users can easily overview the content they labelled Exemplary. (This is basically the “Gilded” page in the other direction.) In addition, users can see the messages they provided when giving Exemplary labels.

    Suggestion 7. Users can easily overview the content they labelled Malice. In addition, users can see the messages they provided when giving Malice labels.

    P.S. These suggestions deal with the current labels, but they can be extended to future labels, e.g., group-specific ones.

    11 votes

  11. Comment on The number of votes on comments is no longer visible (for the next week) in ~tildes.official

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    Here are my immediate thoughts: With this change, a comment vote essentially becomes a kind of a comment label. I would suggest a small change: showing the number of votes to the comment submitter...

    Here are my immediate thoughts:

    • With this change, a comment vote essentially becomes a kind of a comment label.
    • I would suggest a small change: showing the number of votes to the comment submitter just as Exemplary labels are shown.
    6 votes

  12. Comment on Publishers that closed their comments sections made a colossal mistake in ~misc

    MetArtScroll Link Parent
    I cannot speak for the author of the article, but I read comments on various sites quite often, and these comments are either part of the respective site or, less commonly, powered by Disqus (no...

    Has the author ever actually spent any time in the comment sections of any news sites recently?

    I cannot speak for the author of the article, but I read comments on various sites quite often, and these comments are either part of the respective site or, less commonly, powered by Disqus (no embedded Facebook comments).

    Maybe I avoid most controversial topics; also, I cannot recall a really unmoderated (i.e., when a problematic comments stays for days rather than minutes) comment section—can you give an example of a site?

  14. Comment on What's your aesthetic? in ~talk

  15. Comment on By making both "high-quality discussion" and "transparent community development" a core part of its identity, Tildes will always be dominated by people with "moderator/power user" personalities. in ~tildes

  16. Comment on Cake Day Congratulations Topic in ~test

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    Happy cake day and thanks for making Tildes a better place!

    Happy cake day and thanks for making Tildes a better place!

    2 votes

  17. Comment on alyaza is unbanned in ~tildes.official

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    I am glad to see that you realised a mistake and immediately corrected it. This is in a stark contrast with what has happened on Reddit in some subs, where users got banned for rules violations...

    I am glad to see that you realised a mistake and immediately corrected it. This is in a stark contrast with what has happened on Reddit in some subs, where users got banned for rules violations that did not happen, appealed, and the mods' response was Oh yes, you didn't violate rules. However, your ban stands. LOL.

    I am also glad that it looks like the primary reason for the original ban was (alleged, is it has turned out) alt account abuse rather than the extremely subjective “comment hostility.”

    I also completely agree with this comment by Whom.

    Finally, I need to note that while “routine” bans of spammers or trolls might have gone unnoticed, banning a prominent user such as alyaza would be definitely discovered by the userbase, so such bans should be publicised (after it is absolutely clear to you or, eventually, other users with a banhammer, that the ban is deserved).

    Thanks for doing a fantastic job!

    7 votes

  18. Comment on Eurovision 2019: Why is Australia still in the song contest and what would happen if we won? in ~music

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    It is a pity that they cannot be bold and hold an event in Australia in case Australia wins. Adelaide Oval during sunset would be a perfect place (I am not an Australian but the few cricket games...

    It is a pity that they cannot be bold and hold an event in Australia in case Australia wins. Adelaide Oval during sunset would be a perfect place (I am not an Australian but the few cricket games at Adelaide Oval that I watched gave me a sufficient idea).

    Also, Australia's participation results in quite unusual maps like this Wikipedia template.

    But the best map is the one used in r/europe during Eurovision events.

    2 votes

  19. Comment on Banned accounts should have their past comments visible in ~tildes

    MetArtScroll Link Parent
    When Tildes reach 100k users, and there are hundreds of users with group mod privileges, will every group mod be able to alter data in this way?

    When Tildes reach 100k users, and there are hundreds of users with group mod privileges, will every group mod be able to alter data in this way?

  20. Comment on Banned accounts should have their past comments visible in ~tildes

    MetArtScroll Link Parent
    I do trust Deimos. I do trust you. When Tildes reach 100k users, and there are hundreds of users with group mod privileges, I will have difficulty trusting everyone.

    I do trust Deimos. I do trust you.

    When Tildes reach 100k users, and there are hundreds of users with group mod privileges, I will have difficulty trusting everyone.

    2 votes