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Let’s talk creative process!

How do you begin? Do you have rituals or specific places you work? How do you decide it’s done?

I’m interested in hearing from creatives of any kind! Maybe we can draw inspiration and wisdom from someone who isn’t in our creative sphere.

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  1. [4]
    AgnesNutter
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    I’m a writer; I have no rituals and I’ll write anywhere, in the living room with a laptop, in bed on my phone, while I’m out… anywhere that inspirations strikes. On the opposite end of the process...

    I’m a writer; I have no rituals and I’ll write anywhere, in the living room with a laptop, in bed on my phone, while I’m out… anywhere that inspirations strikes.

    On the opposite end of the process I’m terrible at deciding when a story is done and when to stop edits. It never feels good enough, but I usually get to a point where I’m sick of the story and/or am more excited about a new one!

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      Moonchild
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      Here is one idea: set yourself schedules, or time limits. Could be 'write one story a week', or 'spend no more than 12 hours total on this story' or whatever (based on what else you've said, the...

      Here is one idea: set yourself schedules, or time limits. Could be 'write one story a week', or 'spend no more than 12 hours total on this story' or whatever (based on what else you've said, the latter might be more appropriate). This shifts the focus from 'how good can I make this story' to 'what kind of scope do I need to be able to make a good story within the time limit', forcing you to come up with a standard of quality that you consider acceptable.

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      1. AgnesNutter
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        This is a great idea. In the absence of a real deadline it can be easy to carry on tinkering forever - of course the solution is to self-impose a deadline. Thank you for the idea!

        This is a great idea. In the absence of a real deadline it can be easy to carry on tinkering forever - of course the solution is to self-impose a deadline. Thank you for the idea!

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    2. PossiblyBipedal
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      Hahaha. I can relate to this. I have at some point progressed to typing on the laptop in bed, with the laptop sideways so you can curl up and type. Probably not great for the laptop or your...

      Hahaha. I can relate to this. I have at some point progressed to typing on the laptop in bed, with the laptop sideways so you can curl up and type.

      Probably not great for the laptop or your posture. Haha.

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    Moonchild
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    It's a curious issue I have been thinking about lately as I try to work seriously on getting good at choreographing dance. I think I realised that I've been trying to approach it the same way I do...

    It's a curious issue I have been thinking about lately as I try to work seriously on getting good at choreographing dance. I think I realised that I've been trying to approach it the same way I do writing, and that this is probably harming me.

    When I write, sometimes I simply write linearly, the writing process mirroring the reading process and the thinking process. And sometimes I use outlines—this method basically comprises a fractal structure: starts with an overarching theme, goal, question, etc.; then breaks up into supporting points or lower-level structure, minutiae, eventually paragraphs and words. Starts with a blurry but coherent picture, and gradually sharpens it until all the fine detail can be resolved.

    When choreographing, the linear approach can sometimes yield interesting results, but broadly it just doesn't seem to go anywhere—it lacks structure and thematic coherence. (I think this is partly just a matter of degree—I am prone to have the same trouble when writing, if I am writing something longer, so must balance the linear approach for smaller sections with a modicum of an outline for the higher-level structure.) Outlines, meantime, don't seem to work at all with the medium—although I have found value in keeping in mind a coherent theme, past a certain point further top-down decomposition just ... seems kind of incoherent. What I realised I can do, and seem to be having some success with, is following a bottom-up decomposition. Start with simple, repetitive rhythmic movements, almost in isolation, and then slowly build them up and work out how they fit together and what broader thematic structure they express.

    (It now occurs to me is that this could be an interesting way to write. Start with disparate scenes and then slowly piece them together. The approach seems broadly less suited to the medium—more reminiscent of mad libs than serious writing—but still seems like it could go to interesting places, especially if one has difficulty committing to things, as I do.)

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    1. AgnesNutter
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      I know absolutely nothing about choreography or dance so this is fascinating! I think I would have assumed a linear approach as the only way. You’ve explained it very well though, so that I can...

      I know absolutely nothing about choreography or dance so this is fascinating! I think I would have assumed a linear approach as the only way. You’ve explained it very well though, so that I can see how starting with one or a few moves and building up would help the whole piece feel coherent. Do you choreograph just for yourself, or are you working with a group?

      In terms of writing I do sometimes have an image of a scene or two in mind that I then have to feel out how to put together. Other times a first line pops into my head, or an ending. I never outline, but it’s something I’d like to practise!

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  3. [6]
    PossiblyBipedal
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    I mainly draw and paint digitally for work. I don't really have a ritual or anything that is specific to the creative process. My ritual is more of trying to maintain waking up early, exercise and...

    I mainly draw and paint digitally for work. I don't really have a ritual or anything that is specific to the creative process.

    My ritual is more of trying to maintain waking up early, exercise and impose office hours on myself as I do freelance work from home so I can split work and play hours without mixing them up. Sleeping on time and all that.

    I used to kind of wait and do rituals when I first started out, but when I started working in a studio it got drilled in me that as a professional you need to be able to produce at any given time. "We need this by lunch! Go!"

    Basically, if you practice enough, you don't need to wait for inspiration to hit. You draw as much as you can and some days you draw better with inspiration and other days you don't draw as good without inspiration but it's still decent.

    But then I also realised work killed drawing for me. I got burnt out and got anxious whenever I wanted to draw my own thing. I got sad about that for a while and produced nothing outside of work.

    But then I had to learn to separate things. Since work and play was so close together, I had to to find ways to physically separate them so I could mentally separate them too.

    So now I do digital art for work because it's faster and more versatile profit wise, but I do traditional paintings for fun. I will not attempt make money from traditional work because I need something to not be work.

    I also like making and building things. So I buy random interactive things to play with and build physically. I have a mars biodome kit for kids that I've still not built. Haha.

    Since I also sometimes do work for games, it has also killed games for me to a certain extent. But I do the same thing now. I don't play PC games. Not because I don't like them, I just associate work with the PC.

    The Steam deck is a solution, but I can't afford that at the moment.

    So now I play console games instead so I can be away from the PC. But you still end up thinking about work sometimes, so instead I've been into tabletop games and roleplay.

    Basically digital for work, analog for fun. Just like painting.

    I've been finding more fun in things I do again now that I've been separating things like this for a while. We just ended a roleplay campaign and I liked the world so much and how my character ended, I was asking my GM (a writer) if we could work together and make a very short comic about it or something.

    My current freelance job is to make art for a board game and I'm actually enjoying it compared to when I normally do other work. But that's because the client came to me for my style and subject matter. So it just has been feeling like I'm doing my own thing for fun instead.

    Although this is risky. I don't want to to associate board games with work. But eh. It should be fine for this particular situation.

    I also come up with stories in my head I work on them over a long period of time and then forget them when I move on to something else. I really should write them down.

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      AgnesNutter
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      I really resonate with a lot of this. When I worked as a writer (of boring, marketing-y non-fiction) I never wrote fiction for myself. I even went off reading a little bit. It can be really hard...

      I really resonate with a lot of this. When I worked as a writer (of boring, marketing-y non-fiction) I never wrote fiction for myself. I even went off reading a little bit. It can be really hard to find joy in something that’s too similar to the drudgery of work! However, like you, it did help me build the skills to create when I decided it was time rather than waiting for the muse to tell me it’s time. Thanks for pointing out that silver lining!

      I also really like your perspective of some of your art being only for yourself - even the stories you make up in your head are in this category - and not for monetisation. That’s such a great boundary to have!

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        PossiblyBipedal
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        Thanks! Yay. You relate! Yeah I'm thankful for the skills I learned from work. I improved a lot more from that. But man, it really did kill the enjoyment for quite a long time. I used to believe...

        Thanks! Yay. You relate! Yeah I'm thankful for the skills I learned from work. I improved a lot more from that. But man, it really did kill the enjoyment for quite a long time.

        I used to believe in do what you love for work. But now I'm more of, do what you like and wouldn't mind doing everyday for work. But do what you love for yourself.

        At least that's for me. I won't say it's the same experience for every creative.

        But yeah! Boundaries are needed! It's very tempting to attempt to monetise everything. Put social media and gain followers. Especially with the whole hustle culture going on.

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          AgnesNutter
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          Totally agree re: work vs leisure. I’ve recently decided I’d like to start submitting to publication. I’m not trying to earn a living, which I think would attract an awful lot of stress to the...

          Totally agree re: work vs leisure.

          I’ve recently decided I’d like to start submitting to publication. I’m not trying to earn a living, which I think would attract an awful lot of stress to the process, but just to get my writing out into the world. Ok, yes I also want that external validation!

          I will never be good at marketing myself. Having to spend time on social media trying to build a following sounds awful to me! Props to those that can, and maybe they even enjoy it, but it’s not for me

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            PossiblyBipedal
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            Oh nice! I hope you get something published! What kind of things do you write? But I completely understand wanting the validation! There is always that small goal of want to have "made it" enough...

            Oh nice! I hope you get something published! What kind of things do you write?

            But I completely understand wanting the validation! There is always that small goal of want to have "made it" enough so you'll feel less like an imposter. For me at least.

            I'm also really bad at social media. I've neglected it for too long. But it has helped with work a little over the years.

            1. AgnesNutter
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              Thank you! That’s a hard question actually. It’s all short stories but I don’t have a preferred genre - sometimes literary short fiction, sometimes crime thriller, sometimes horror etc. whatever...

              Thank you! That’s a hard question actually. It’s all short stories but I don’t have a preferred genre - sometimes literary short fiction, sometimes crime thriller, sometimes horror etc. whatever takes my fancy at that moment (and, tbh, whatever genre the book I’m currently reading is! I get a lot of inspiration there)

              Absolutely. Imposter syndrome is so hard to get over! I think sometimes about what stage I would need to get to before I would feel comfortable introducing myself as a writer - x number of published short stories? A traditionally published novel? Self published? Able to earn minimum wage from writing? I haven’t yet found an answer!

              I think I could maybe be “good” at social media, ie build a following, but my mental health and happiness would suffer for it

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    BradleyNull
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    I have a few artistic endeavors, but in order to be successful in any of them I need to get a little bored. I partly hate the internet for making it so easy to doomscroll and prevent myself of...

    I have a few artistic endeavors, but in order to be successful in any of them I need to get a little bored. I partly hate the internet for making it so easy to doomscroll and prevent myself of precious boredom. It works out best if I just walk into a room with nothing to do and sit and let my mind wander a bit. Music is my main jam, so I reorganized my apartment so one bedroom is the media room, one is the sleeping room, and the music room is smack dab in the middle of them. I pass the music room no matter what i have to do - it's right next to the kitchen. Get some water; hit the drums. Take a shower; play some chords.

    In the past, i tried to force myself to practice regimens like a good music student. Doesn't work for me. I just need to let things happen organically; I can't force it. For some reason, lighting has always been key to get me in the mood, though. I like my lava lamp and a mix of low power cool and warm LEDs spread around. Something a person might enjoy while high. I don't really need any drugs to feel like i'm high if I set up the environment like that and start playing some music.

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      AgnesNutter
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      That set up sounds fantastic! We would like a music room one day - my husband and I are both absolute amateurs and not very good at all, but we enjoy it and that’s the most important thing, right?...

      That set up sounds fantastic! We would like a music room one day - my husband and I are both absolute amateurs and not very good at all, but we enjoy it and that’s the most important thing, right? Art for arts sake rather than to be great is important.

      You’ve made me realise that lighting is big for me too. I can work anytime, but it really seems to flow in the evening when the dishwasher is on (I guess it’s the white noise?!) and the soft lamps are lit.

      Do you like to write music, play songs you love, or just jam out?

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        BradleyNull
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        Yep, you just need to enjoy it for yourself. I spent many years waffling on practicing because i felt I wasn't meeting my ridiculous expectations. I was a perfectionist and the funny thing about...

        Yep, you just need to enjoy it for yourself. I spent many years waffling on practicing because i felt I wasn't meeting my ridiculous expectations. I was a perfectionist and the funny thing about that is that I played worse because of it. I stiffled my own creative process with regimen I wasn't interested in. I wasn't being myself and losing the fun of playing because of that.

        I like to write my own stuff, play other songs, and jam out! Slow jams are one my favorite - when the mood is nice and somber a nice downtempo jam session kind of soothes the soul.

        1. AgnesNutter
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          God yes, any kind of perfectionism can really kill your creativity! I’m trying to let go of that

          God yes, any kind of perfectionism can really kill your creativity! I’m trying to let go of that

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    cernunos
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    I used to write prose, but due to a serious lack of ability I have switched to poetry which people tell(people who won't lie to me) me I have a modicum of affinity for. I write when I have an...

    I used to write prose, but due to a serious lack of ability I have switched to poetry which people tell(people who won't lie to me) me I have a modicum of affinity for. I write when I have an idea. An idea can come from almost anything and at any time. Last week I remembered a scene from a movie that I last saw over ten years ago, and that remembrance gave me an idea. The idea turned into a tidy little poem that I am fairly proud of.

    I can only write on a pc with a physical keyboard. I can't write on a laptop, I make too many mistakes while typing, nor can I write with a pen because I can't keep up with the words when they are flowing. I rewrite with a pen and paper, the physical act of writing manually helps me to slow down, see, hear, and feel the words that I am transcribing. This allows me to correct the flow, condense the idea, and get to the pithy little core of the piece.

    Writing is an individualistic endeavor, which to me makes it difficult to utilize ideas from other writers because their ways never seem to work or mesh with my ways. I have read a ton of books on writing and the only advice that seems pertinent to me is to make yourself do it, put your ass in the chair and get those words in your head down on paper. All of the other stuff, write fast and with the flow, cut, cut, cut, is what works for that particular writer, but disciplining yourself to get it down, that is universal and works for everyone. That is my 0.02.

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      AgnesNutter
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      I love your method of rewriting with a pen to feel how the piece is shaped. That sounds totally perfect for poetry, which to me is so much more about feeling than any other written medium. I...

      I love your method of rewriting with a pen to feel how the piece is shaped. That sounds totally perfect for poetry, which to me is so much more about feeling than any other written medium.

      I mostly agree about writing advice. Where I think it’s helpful is when you’re starting out and haven’t figured out what works for you yet. Provided you understand that these are all only ideas and not definitive answers, and you try out a few rather than picking one and forcing yourself to fit it, I think it can be helpful. Having said that I do personally roll my eyes at any and all articles with that advice (except for On Writing by Stephen King which is excellent - something he said which I love is that most people can’t be great writers, but if you love it and you practise enough you can probably be a good writer. It just really helped to manage my expectations and give me hope at the same time)

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        cernunos
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        Yes, I agree that when you are first starting out you should try anything and everything, simply to see what works for you. Try it all, but keep in mind that you have to decide for yourself, you...

        Yes, I agree that when you are first starting out you should try anything and everything, simply to see what works for you. Try it all, but keep in mind that you have to decide for yourself, you can't let others, no matter how many books they have published, tell you what should work.

        I have read On Writing and I think that a ton of his advice only works for writers who work like he does. King is someone who can sit down and dash off pages, like Kerouac on a dexedrine binge, and then needs to pare those pages down. Some writers do not write in that same way, instead they weigh their words and sentences, so they aren't able to smash out thousands of words per day and then edit. Rather they edit as they go, well at least to a much greater extent than King does. I know that On Writing is lauded, but to me it was geared toward writers who write like King, not writers who purposely choose to write carefully and who are exacting in their choice of words. But yes, by all means, hone your craft, work on it everyday if you are able.

        Another tactic that I find helpful is to read what you have written aloud. You may sound like a mad woman if someone is in the other room, but reading it out loud, especially anything approaching dialogue, gives you an idea on whether or not your sentences and dialogue sound natural and flow. I was working on a novel one time and there was a scene where two lovers were quarreling. I read it out loud in the room where I was writing to make sure the writing sounded like a real lovers' spat. When I finished up and came out of my little writing room my girlfriend at the time was angry, really angry. She thought I was on speaker phone arguing with another woman. It took a long time to convince her I wasn't runnin' 'round on her. So if you are going to read aloud make sure you warn your SO.

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        1. AgnesNutter
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          Yes I probably should have said On Writing is excellent for me! I don’t weigh each word. I have to just get it all out and see where I am. In my real life I’m a complete planner but when writing...

          Yes I probably should have said On Writing is excellent for me! I don’t weigh each word. I have to just get it all out and see where I am. In my real life I’m a complete planner but when writing it kills my creativity. I’d like to practise it more, though, and see if I can make it work for me.

          That’s funny, congrats on writing such realistic dialogue! I’ve never read aloud because I feel silly, but I can see the value.

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    Thomas-C
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    I guess I have a ritual, of proving to myself whether an idea is one I really want to pursue. I daydream a lot (a lot), and can pretty quickly come up with what first steps of a project would be,...

    I guess I have a ritual, of proving to myself whether an idea is one I really want to pursue. I daydream a lot (a lot), and can pretty quickly come up with what first steps of a project would be, but I am also guilty of overloading myself. So usually, what I do is pick one thing, and try to do it for about 15 or 20 minutes. That's the Evaluation Period. If I'm into it and keep going, thats gonna be a project I finish. If by the end of that 20 minutes I'm tired and without motivation, I drop it/move on, and maybe I'll try again some other time. The important thing (for me I mean) is that I don't structure it like work, and I don't linger on ideas that didn't pan out.

    I do that stuff primarily for me, I'm not trying to sell stuff or become anything, so I don't hold myself accountable for producing or finishing really any of it. I do have some completed projects, and feedback when I showed them to folks has always been pretty good. I go until I don't wish to go, and it's the weight of the idea that provides inertia if that makes any sense. I must not have meant it as much, if I get to work and find quickly thst I don't wish to continue.

    That's all pretty unstructured, I can't imagine it works as any sort of advice. I allow most daydreams to just come and go. But sometimes I can't let one go, so I'll try to make it real, and if then I find I'm enjoying myself, I commit until I feel it is what I wanted it to be. Knowing when it's done is a visceral sort of feeling, a sense of "completeness" happens where I suddenly can't think of anything more to do with it. When that feeling occurs I tend to take a break, and when I come back, decide whether I am finished.

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      AgnesNutter
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      I have a somewhat similar process where I’ll write down a single sentence for any idea, and if there’s one that sticks with me after a few days I’ll write it. Sometimes even if I haven’t written...

      I have a somewhat similar process where I’ll write down a single sentence for any idea, and if there’s one that sticks with me after a few days I’ll write it. Sometimes even if I haven’t written anything down an idea will float around my head until I have to write it down just to get it out!

      Good idea about taking a break after you feel it’s complete and then coming back to it. That’s a step I’ve been missing I think - distance helps you see it more clearly!

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        Thomas-C
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        I did some reading a while back on implicit temporal learning, and I think that is what led to me doing the breaks. The brain is still working with stuff after I've stopped, it's still piecing...

        I did some reading a while back on implicit temporal learning, and I think that is what led to me doing the breaks. The brain is still working with stuff after I've stopped, it's still piecing info and experiences together, and the break allows for some of that to occur without further input/distraction I guess is how I look at it. I take care to really be doing something totally different too, when I take the break. I try not to dwell much on the project itself, unless of course I get slapped with an idea that I have to try to do. Ideally, the way this goes is I work for a good while, I take a break for a similarly long stretch of time (a few days, usually) and then pick back up where I left off, new knowledge and new ideas in hand.

        1. AgnesNutter
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          I’m going to look that up later! I always take a break between writing and editing, but I never thought to do another one after I felt editing was done. In my mind there are two sections of the...

          I’m going to look that up later! I always take a break between writing and editing, but I never thought to do another one after I felt editing was done. In my mind there are two sections of the work, just writing and editing, and I think I need to mentally think of three phases with the addition of a final look over

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    earlsweatshirt
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    For me, it begins with inspiration. That feels a little cliche or generic, since that can be found in many ways - most of the time it’s simply that I want something to exist and it doesn’t seem...

    For me, it begins with inspiration. That feels a little cliche or generic, since that can be found in many ways - most of the time it’s simply that I want something to exist and it doesn’t seem to.

    Similarly to you, I don’t have many rituals and will work just about anywhere I can take my laptop. I’m particularly fond of typing away while laying in bed (maybe too fond..)

    As for deciding when something is done… Nothing ever feels done 😄 Typically something is ‘finished’ when my short attention span has moved on to a new muse :)

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    1. AgnesNutter
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      Absolutely feel like I wrote this myself! Not sure whether you commented after they wrote or before, but in case you missed it @moonchild (I don’t know how to actually tag people properly)...

      Absolutely feel like I wrote this myself! Not sure whether you commented after they wrote or before, but in case you missed it @moonchild (I don’t know how to actually tag people properly) suggested self imposing a time limit on working on a piece and then declaring it done - I’m going to try this!

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    impossible_planet
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    I'm a composer, specifically of soundworks. A lot of my work involves working with field recordings, and wanting to interrogate the relationships between self and place. So my process starts with...

    I'm a composer, specifically of soundworks. A lot of my work involves working with field recordings, and wanting to interrogate the relationships between self and place. So my process starts with thinking about a general theme that I want to explore. Then I'll think about what sort of place might embody that (geographically, culturally). While I'm in a place recording, I make a mental note of keywords that pop up while I'm there, such as what memories and sensations I'm experiencing, what sorts of sounds I'm being drawn to and why. All of these aspects will inform my compositional process.

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      AgnesNutter
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      What are soundworks? I tried google with no luck! It sounds fascinating. Do you do this for work or for yourself?

      What are soundworks? I tried google with no luck! It sounds fascinating. Do you do this for work or for yourself?

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        impossible_planet
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        Very surprised nothing came up on Google! I guess some better terms to describe it are soundscapes, sound art, exploratory music... basically works that explore the sonic and textural...

        Very surprised nothing came up on Google! I guess some better terms to describe it are soundscapes, sound art, exploratory music... basically works that explore the sonic and textural possibilities of sound. I do this for work and pleasure, feel very privileged that others want to share the same sonic journeys!

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          AgnesNutter
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          There is a local studio called soundworks which was skewing my results I think! That sounds SO interesting, I’ve never heard of this before. How do people usually listen, do you show in a gallery...

          There is a local studio called soundworks which was skewing my results I think!

          That sounds SO interesting, I’ve never heard of this before. How do people usually listen, do you show in a gallery space? A theatre? Do you intend for people to sit and listen and focus on the soundwork or is it intended to create a feeling in the background of whatever else they’re doing?

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            impossible_planet
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            In terms of listening: all of the above! I've presented work in live performance (solo and with others), have had work in galleries, online, etc. Although if they are in a gallery I usually...

            In terms of listening: all of the above! I've presented work in live performance (solo and with others), have had work in galleries, online, etc. Although if they are in a gallery I usually present the work either in a small room by itself or on a set of headphones so it doesn't disrupt other work and listeners can have the best listening experience. As for how people can engage, I like to keep it open. I've done long-form work where the goal is to allow people to come in and out as they please.

            1. AgnesNutter
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              I would love to hear some! Are you comfortable sharing your own work here? If not, is there a piece by someone else that you particularly love or would recommend?

              I would love to hear some! Are you comfortable sharing your own work here? If not, is there a piece by someone else that you particularly love or would recommend?

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    mat
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    Sometimes I want to make a thing - either a physical thing from wood or metal, write a thing or make a photo or write some code - and I know what I'm doing so I just do it. That's the easy way....

    Sometimes I want to make a thing - either a physical thing from wood or metal, write a thing or make a photo or write some code - and I know what I'm doing so I just do it. That's the easy way.

    But sometimes I need to make a thing, for example this week I've been making jewellery pieces for the staff at my kid's nursery. So I have an end goal but not necessarily any idea what I'm doing to get there. First and most effective thing I do is tidy up. I do keep my workshop fairly tidy most of the time because it's impossible to work in any other way - but there's always tidying to do. It's concentration without thought. It's an easy way to get into flow and while my brain is distracted worrying about whether I'd got all the dust from a place or where I should put these tools, my subconscious can get on with thinking things up. I find a whole lot of "creativity" is about distracting your conscious mind.

    If tidying doesn't work I'll open some drawers, grab some materials and start making things at semi-random. Sometimes starting the process is enough to give me an idea which I can then develop into something useful (this also works for writing, just write any old shit - I can always and usually do replace it with something better later. And photography too)

    Sometimes - and especially for engineering-like/construction projects which have more clear technical requirements - I spend what seems like far too long fiddling around defining the problem space, to find where the edges are. What are the dimensions of the thing I want to make, what are the problems the code will solve, what materials can I use or whatever. I have notebooks full of lists of dimensions and bullet points of requirements. This is all still distraction, but it's also furnishing my subconscious with the parameters it has to work within. Sometimes I'll hang around at this point for days or even weeks before suddenly realising exactly what I want to do within the space I've already defined (my yet-to-be-built elevated playhouse for the kid was one of those - took months of not "doing" anything then one morning a fully-formed plan dropped into my head)

    On this week's project, in the end I made this terribly photographed copper and silver pasta pendant (and some more stuff too, obviously), which I'm really pleased with and I know the person it's for will love it.

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    1. AgnesNutter
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      I really like your approach to this. I agree that a lot of creating happens in the background, so to speak, almost unconsciously while you’re busy doing something else. Ideas are like cats, if you...

      I really like your approach to this. I agree that a lot of creating happens in the background, so to speak, almost unconsciously while you’re busy doing something else. Ideas are like cats, if you stare at them too hard they run away; they come when you’re looking sideways.

      That’s a lovely pendant! Something hand made is always such a special gift :)

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    caninehere
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    I was a playwright in a past life. I'm sure you've heard the old adage before, but the most important rule to me was not to let anything be too precious. Don't obsess over one piece of work -...

    I was a playwright in a past life. I'm sure you've heard the old adage before, but the most important rule to me was not to let anything be too precious. Don't obsess over one piece of work - produce, push yourself to try new things, and it will work out for the better.

    The first couple years I spent as an aspiring playwright, I obsessed over one script that frankly wasn't all that interesting. What helped me was to implement routines that forced me to change gears and explore new ideas. I'd put on a playlist of music (usually stuff I wasn't familiar with) and write flash fiction - pump out a story, with the only limit being that I had to stop when the song was done and move on and start fresh. This meant I could sit for a couple hours and hammer out maybe 20-30 concepts, many of them not wrapped up nicely with a bow. Most of them would be shit. But if I sat there for a couple hours and came up with one idea I really liked, that was a success to me.

    Once I started doing that I found myself able to create not just more work but better work, and it was only after that point that I managed to get any plays produced. It also meant that if I pitched/submitted something and it got turned down I wasn't heartbroken.

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    1. AgnesNutter
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      Ah yes. You have to be ready to “kill your darlings”, right?! My secret to this is to always think everything I write is terrible. Helps me just get it down and move on ;) I really like your...

      Ah yes. You have to be ready to “kill your darlings”, right?! My secret to this is to always think everything I write is terrible. Helps me just get it down and move on ;)

      I really like your method of writing flash fiction to a song! Sounds like a great way to get out of a rut; I’m going to stick that in my back pocket for later!

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    Satures
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    My creative outlet is photography. So it rarely features a ritual (except "is the battery okay? Is there a SD-Card inside?") and given the hobby and the things I like to take pictures off when I...

    My creative outlet is photography.

    So it rarely features a ritual (except "is the battery okay? Is there a SD-Card inside?") and given the hobby and the things I like to take pictures off when I start walking I don't know if and with what I'll end up. I just pack my bag with a little more than I hope to see and do (like walking at a river - better have the tripod and ND-Filter!)

    A common thing I do however is that before I decide to take a shot, I set it up in my head, so I imagine how the exact framing would look like before I decide if it's worth taking the camera out or not. I might also go a few steps left and right, or make a squat, to see what changes it would have on the picture. A valuable lesson I learnt in photography is that a picture tends to be complete when nothing can be removed anymore. So I might not try to take a picture of the entire flower field and the mountains in the background and the half-timber house on the left. But I might focus on a single flower, with the half-timber house slightly outside depth-of-field so you can still recognize it. Or I might switch to black and white to see if this would yield a better result.

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      AgnesNutter
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      Do you tend to go out specifically to take pictures, or do you always carry stuff with you just in case? My dad is a photographer, and I always wished I was better at it! I still love the smell of...

      Do you tend to go out specifically to take pictures, or do you always carry stuff with you just in case? My dad is a photographer, and I always wished I was better at it! I still love the smell of a darkroom; do you use film or all digital?

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      1. Satures
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        I always go on dedicated photography walks. My standard camera is a Panasonic FZ1000II, so a rather clunky thing you don't carry around randomly. I have the mobile with me, but the difference in...

        I always go on dedicated photography walks. My standard camera is a Panasonic FZ1000II, so a rather clunky thing you don't carry around randomly. I have the mobile with me, but the difference in quality is so big that I don't use it for more than a random snapshot.

        I only take pictures with digital cameras by now, but I inherited my father's cameras, the oldest one being from the 1920s. The sit in a cabinet and I don't really intend to use them, but they are wonderful memories

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  12. [4]
    paddirn
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    Controlled chaos. I might do some prep work, take notes, write lists, or whatever, but I like to just dive right into the first spark of an idea I have that excites me and work up some sort of...

    Controlled chaos. I might do some prep work, take notes, write lists, or whatever, but I like to just dive right into the first spark of an idea I have that excites me and work up some sort of rough draft. Then I take a step back and evaluate and decide from there. So many projects and endeavors I've seen can just send people walking around in circles trying to get things just right from the get-go or talking themselves into and out of something, but at a certain point, you just need to act on it. Whether it's right or wrong or a bad idea, you're not going to know until after you've done it.

    Like I stopped trying to collaborate with some friends on writing/design projects because they would just talk and talk and talk and then nobody would ever DO anything about their ideas. I like seeing ideas take some sort of rough shape, then pulling back and evaluating. I like just throwing caution to the wind, rolling the dice, throwing whatever against the wall, seeing what sticks, and then thinking about it after I have something to look at.

    As far as actual inspiration, I like looking in random, unexpected places. Watch movie genres I haven't watched before, go on walks to strange places, roam the shelves at the library, draw random cards from a tarot deck, literally roll dice, something, anything that breaks me out of my comfort zone.

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      AgnesNutter
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      Do you write? It sounds like it from your comment. I’m curious about what kind of things you write. I’m like you, I jump into an idea and see how it goes, but I write short stories. I’ve been...

      Do you write? It sounds like it from your comment. I’m curious about what kind of things you write. I’m like you, I jump into an idea and see how it goes, but I write short stories. I’ve been toying with the idea of writing a novel as a challenge to myself, but I suspect I would need to do some kind of outline for a much longer piece like that!

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        paddirn
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        Write and design, mostly with boardgames and tabletop RPGs, but not on a professional level or anything like that, just alot of homebrew material (though I did sell a book on DrivethruRPG, so I...

        Write and design, mostly with boardgames and tabletop RPGs, but not on a professional level or anything like that, just alot of homebrew material (though I did sell a book on DrivethruRPG, so I always have that I guess).

        One thing you might try for writing a novel is NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month - https://nanowrimo.org/), it takes place every November and I believe the goal is to have written a 50,000 word novel within 30 days. If you think you like writing, forcing yourself to write to a quota (~1700 words/day) day-in and day-out for a month really makes it feel like a job.

        I did it one year before I had kids and life responsibilities and it was definitely an experience. I had the barest semblance of an idea (Canterbury Tales... in space) and quickly deviated from that, but you don't have any choice and you can't really go back to edit anything you've done, you just have to keep plowing forward just to get it done. I specifically wanted to write alot of random, seemingly unconnected stories, but then somehow overtime reintroduce characters from earlier stories into later stories and kind of weave them all back into each other... and somehow it worked out, it was pretty fun, though stressful at the time.

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        1. AgnesNutter
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          I have been signed up for the past two years and not written a word! It is very hard with young children - I have high hopes and when November rolls around I realised I’m too busy and exhausted....

          I have been signed up for the past two years and not written a word! It is very hard with young children - I have high hopes and when November rolls around I realised I’m too busy and exhausted. Once again I have high hopes for this year, so we’ll see!

          Do you mean that you design your own board games, or do you mean writing stories for things like d&d? (I have only the barest notion of what that entails but I believe you have to write quite a lot?)

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    Grimmcartel
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    I have quite a few actually. I write science fiction, so for me a good movie or tv show can get the juices flowing. The Stargate properties, Star Trek, are generally good if I already have a bit...

    I have quite a few actually. I write science fiction, so for me a good movie or tv show can get the juices flowing. The Stargate properties, Star Trek, are generally good if I already have a bit of a thing going, but if I need to get out of a slump where I haven't been writing, I go for something more involved. The X-Universe games from Egosoft were at least partially responsible for stoking the fire in the first place, so I go back to those regularly.

    Outside of that, I walk a lot. Every morning I do 4 k and let myself get a little bored on the way. It works wonders.

    1. AgnesNutter
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      I’m always so impressed by anyone who can write SF or fantasy. It’s a whole other level of imagination! I’m similar. Runs, walks and swims always help if I’m stuck in a story! I listened to a...

      I’m always so impressed by anyone who can write SF or fantasy. It’s a whole other level of imagination!

      I’m similar. Runs, walks and swims always help if I’m stuck in a story! I listened to a podcast episode once that talked about the importance of being bored for your brain - it’s just not meant to be stimulated all the time. It recommended doing chores and other things with no music or podcast or anything occasionally, and I definitely feel more creative when I’m doing that regularly

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