TL;DR: Reasons quoted are the embedded Chrome dependency, and Windows feature and security update availability going forward. Also, don't panic:
TL;DR: Reasons quoted are the embedded Chrome dependency, and Windows feature and security update availability going forward. Also, don't panic:
We expect the Steam client and games on these older operating systems to continue running for some time without updates after January 1st, 2024, but we are unable to guarantee continued functionality after that date.
I thought it was as simple as "Windows 7 support from MSFT ended 4 years ago and there's not a lot of users left at this point. But I guess such decisions always affect someone.
I thought it was as simple as "Windows 7 support from MSFT ended 4 years ago and there's not a lot of users left at this point. But I guess such decisions always affect someone.
Exactly. Since recently, Windows 95 is closer to 7 than 7 is to now. It's kind of hard to fathom how long 7 persists. And sadly, nowadays they're just getting more annoying. I dread the day I need...
Exactly. Since recently, Windows 95 is closer to 7 than 7 is to now. It's kind of hard to fathom how long 7 persists.
And sadly, nowadays they're just getting more annoying. I dread the day I need to shift to 11 and I'd really rather just Linux if I could.
I don't run windows at all anymore, just linux mint. About the only thing I can't do on it that I could before is play SPTarkov (or normal for that matter but I don't want to anyways). Only other...
I don't run windows at all anymore, just linux mint.
About the only thing I can't do on it that I could before is play SPTarkov (or normal for that matter but I don't want to anyways).
Only other thing I have an issue with is the rpath crap while programming and trying to test a .so, on windows you can just drop the executable in the same directory as the dll and it'll find it, not so on linux unfortunately.
While this is a minor quibble, it's always an annoyance to depend on a client to play your own games. I prefer DRM free stores whenever possible (gog.com and itch.io)
While this is a minor quibble, it's always an annoyance to depend on a client to play your own games. I prefer DRM free stores whenever possible (gog.com and itch.io)
I largely agree, though for convenience, availability and legacy reasons I still have a lot of my games on Steam. Although from what I have understood for a lot of legacy games it is possibly to...
I largely agree, though for convenience, availability and legacy reasons I still have a lot of my games on Steam. Although from what I have understood for a lot of legacy games it is possibly to basically stub the Steam dependencies with custom dlls to keep them running on their respective platforms. Which is a fancy way of saying that the steam DRM is removed in a similar way as it would be for pirated games.
Don't ask me for guidance though. I am just parroting what I saw some people talk about on a different forum a few days ago :)
Correct. Valve even states in their documentation that bypassing Steam DRM is trivial and it shouldn't be trusted as a proper anti-piracy tool. Keep in mind though that many games on Steam are DRM...
Correct. Valve even states in their documentation that bypassing Steam DRM is trivial and it shouldn't be trusted as a proper anti-piracy tool.
Keep in mind though that many games on Steam are DRM free, meaning you can launch them without having Steam installed. For these games you won't need to bypass anything, you just need to have them installed.
TL;DR: Reasons quoted are the embedded Chrome dependency, and Windows feature and security update availability going forward. Also, don't panic:
I thought it was as simple as "Windows 7 support from MSFT ended 4 years ago and there's not a lot of users left at this point. But I guess such decisions always affect someone.
I loved Windows 7, least annoying version of Windows ever released, but it is a 15 year old OS...
Exactly. Since recently, Windows 95 is closer to 7 than 7 is to now. It's kind of hard to fathom how long 7 persists.
And sadly, nowadays they're just getting more annoying. I dread the day I need to shift to 11 and I'd really rather just Linux if I could.
I’m on 11 without any trouble so far. But if it gets too bad I’ll switch to Linux with Windows banished to the VM realm.
I don't run windows at all anymore, just linux mint.
About the only thing I can't do on it that I could before is play SPTarkov (or normal for that matter but I don't want to anyways).
Only other thing I have an issue with is the rpath crap while programming and trying to test a .so, on windows you can just drop the executable in the same directory as the dll and it'll find it, not so on linux unfortunately.
While this is a minor quibble, it's always an annoyance to depend on a client to play your own games. I prefer DRM free stores whenever possible (gog.com and itch.io)
Even so, there is absolutely no reason you should stick to anything older than Windows 10 on an internet connected machine.
I largely agree, though for convenience, availability and legacy reasons I still have a lot of my games on Steam. Although from what I have understood for a lot of legacy games it is possibly to basically stub the Steam dependencies with custom dlls to keep them running on their respective platforms. Which is a fancy way of saying that the steam DRM is removed in a similar way as it would be for pirated games.
Don't ask me for guidance though. I am just parroting what I saw some people talk about on a different forum a few days ago :)
Correct. Valve even states in their documentation that bypassing Steam DRM is trivial and it shouldn't be trusted as a proper anti-piracy tool.
Keep in mind though that many games on Steam are DRM free, meaning you can launch them without having Steam installed. For these games you won't need to bypass anything, you just need to have them installed.