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Denuvo has been broken, company promises countermeasures against new DRM bypasses - zero-day game releases become norm as security concerns mount over hypervisor-based bypass
I am actually not sure whether this is better suited to ~tech or ~games. It is a blend of the two so It is not straightforward. I chose ~tech due to the method of bypass and its implications but...
I am actually not sure whether this is better suited to ~tech or ~games. It is a blend of the two so It is not straightforward. I chose ~tech due to the method of bypass and its implications but if people feel it would be better in ~games then I have no objections.
This actually pretty well illustrates several points about hw ownership, effective sw ownership, DRM measures and mainly AAA game markets.
Installing a community-made hypervisor (HV) with Windows running on top of it. This HV fakes responses to the checks that Denuvo makes, and runs with higher permissions (ring level -1) than the operating system itself and has full, nearly untraceable access to hardware and software.
The hypervisor bypass method seems to be a ring -1 based exploit. The Windows kernel itself is a higher level, ring 0. There's already some security components that utilize ring -2, and Intel...
The hypervisor bypass method seems to be a ring -1 based exploit. The Windows kernel itself is a higher level, ring 0. There's already some security components that utilize ring -2, and Intel Management Engine at ring -3. I'm not security focused enough to offer any insight into how these things work, or how they might use them for copy protection.
I suppose this is a promise that, unlike when cheats goes into/under the kernel and anticheats has to become kernel mode, Denovo will not become kernel mode anti tamper.
I suppose this is a promise that, unlike when cheats goes into/under the kernel and anticheats has to become kernel mode, Denovo will not become kernel mode anti tamper.
Does this have anything to do with recent crack for DOOM: the dark ages? I heard from a friend that the fitgirl repack just works. As far as I knew that game still has Denuvo.
Does this have anything to do with recent crack for DOOM: the dark ages? I heard from a friend that the fitgirl repack just works. As far as I knew that game still has Denuvo.
I don't know the specific reason for Doom Dark Ages. Most Denuvo protections are time limited anyway. Because it's so expensive to keep licensed you often see games drop Denuvo protection a couple...
I don't know the specific reason for Doom Dark Ages. Most Denuvo protections are time limited anyway. Because it's so expensive to keep licensed you often see games drop Denuvo protection a couple of weeks after launch. They figure sales are highest in the first week, so let's protect that the most.
But at this point this hypervisor workaround means almost all Denuvo games have been circumvented, and as far as I can tell the only games still on the list aren't all that interesting anyway.
Fitgirl specifically left a message last week that only about 60 games were left, so they're saying they're actively working on it.
I am actually not sure whether this is better suited to ~tech or ~games. It is a blend of the two so It is not straightforward. I chose ~tech due to the method of bypass and its implications but if people feel it would be better in ~games then I have no objections.
This actually pretty well illustrates several points about hw ownership, effective sw ownership, DRM measures and mainly AAA game markets.
Works best in ~tech, this is encryption security hardware/software related, not specific to any game.
Oh we're getting into some serious voodoo now
How do you go deeper than the kernel?
The hypervisor bypass method seems to be a ring -1 based exploit. The Windows kernel itself is a higher level, ring 0. There's already some security components that utilize ring -2, and Intel Management Engine at ring -3. I'm not security focused enough to offer any insight into how these things work, or how they might use them for copy protection.
I suppose this is a promise that, unlike when cheats goes into/under the kernel and anticheats has to become kernel mode, Denovo will not become kernel mode anti tamper.
Does this have anything to do with recent crack for DOOM: the dark ages? I heard from a friend that the fitgirl repack just works. As far as I knew that game still has Denuvo.
Fitgirl doesn't crack, just repacks. The crack was by voice38, which is what Fitgirl's repack is based off of.
I don't know the specific reason for Doom Dark Ages. Most Denuvo protections are time limited anyway. Because it's so expensive to keep licensed you often see games drop Denuvo protection a couple of weeks after launch. They figure sales are highest in the first week, so let's protect that the most.
But at this point this hypervisor workaround means almost all Denuvo games have been circumvented, and as far as I can tell the only games still on the list aren't all that interesting anyway.
Fitgirl specifically left a message last week that only about 60 games were left, so they're saying they're actively working on it.
Circumvented ≠ Cracked
Hypervisor isn't a crack.
Good correction, thanks. Call it flippancy from my end more than anything, but for the sake of accuracy I'll give it the ol' edit.
Doom's Denuvo was cracked, yes. I couldn't tell you if this is related though.
Doom dark ages was 'properly' cracked, not HV bypassed like what's described in this article. No need to drop the security protections for it.