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Weekly coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - week of November 23
This thread is posted weekly, and is intended as a place for more-casual discussion of the coronavirus and questions/updates that may not warrant their own dedicated topics. Tell us about what the situation is like where you live!
(Un)usual personal update:
I got tested on Sunday after losing smell and taste almost completely. I've been in full quarantine since, awaiting test results, and I'm happy to report that they came in and I'm negative!
I'm a little baffled because I don't know what else would cause me to lose smell and taste to the degree that I did -- they were operating at maybe 10-20% of normal at most. Searches turn up allergies/cold, but I'm adequately familiar with both of those, and it's never been like this. Furthermore, I wasn't stuffy or congested at all. On the other hand, my taste started returning later that evening: by the end of the day Sunday I had maybe close to 50%, and it's now back to 100%.
For a bit I wondered if my anxiety was overblowing things, but I can point to two anchor points that make me realize it wasn't all in my head. My amazing in-laws dropped off (contactless) some Indian food from one of my favorite restaurants on the day of my test as a quarantine comfort. I had some of it the first day and was taken aback at just how much I couldn't taste it. In my mouth it was mostly a texture and some of the heat of the dish came through, but the actual flavor of it, which should have been a wonderful symphony of strong spices, was nonexistent. When I had the remaining leftovers the next day, I was able to experience what I had missed out on the day prior -- it was almost as delicious as it should have been (I think the second day I was running at maybe 70-80%).
The second indicator was some leftover Halloween candy we still had on hand. I ate one in the middle of the first day, and it didn't taste sweet at all. It was like I had one they'd accidentally made without sugar. Later that night I tried another one, and it was actually what clued me in that my taste was returning, because it tasted partially sweet.
While the negative result is confusing to me, I'm nonetheless happy to have it confirmed. During these three days I developed no other symptoms and otherwise felt fine, so I was thinking maybe I got away with having a very mild, mostly asymptomatic case, but given how quickly smell and taste returned I think it's more likely something else was the culprit -- especially because I do have pretty numerous and somewhat severe allergies.
A big thanks to all of you who follow my updates and to those who wished me well. These past three days have been pretty nervewracking, so your kindness and support were very much appreciated. Much love to all. Stay safe out there, everyone.
I normally skip these posts, but I came in to see if you were giving an update, and I am happy that this is the update that I saw. I hope you stay healthy and get all your taste back!
I’m glad you’re feeling better, but might it be worth getting a second test? No test is 100% accurate.
I'd like to, but I don't think it's feasible for me, unfortunately.
I thought about going again today and ultimately decided against it. Unfortunately, due to rising cases and a pre-Thanksgiving push -- presumably from people who wanted a negative test on record before meeting with family for the holidays -- the testing sites in my area have had ridiculously long lines and some have even run out of tests. As much as I'd like the confirmation of a second test, it seemed selfish of me to go get swabbed twice in three days when some people can't even get one. The testing sites are then closed for Thanksgiving tomorrow, and I suspect they're going to be absolutely swarmed in the days following that.
The earliest I could test again is Friday, which pushes me to Monday at minimum for reporting time -- likely longer if the testing sites are as packed as I imagine they'll be. Getting tested requires that I initiate a quarantine and take off work, but I can't justifiably initiate a quarantine to my district when I'm currently asymptomatic and I already have a confirmed negative test. From a bureaucratic perspective, I have no reason to not be at work. I could always lie and get around this easily, but there's also the idea that I fully expect to go through several quarantines this school year, so I'd rather initiate them when I feel it's necessary, rather than burning through my administrators' goodwill and patience by chaining them early on. By all accounts this is going to get worse into winter, so I'd rather wait to pull the trigger on my next quarantine. Each passing day makes that more likely to be necessary.
I did spend a lot of time thinking about and researching false negatives and symptoms and whatnot today as a way of determining my next steps in light of the larger picture, and I came to the conclusion that, with all factors considered, it isn't certain but it is highly probable that I don't have COVID. The negative test, plus the lack of any additional symptoms, plus the very quick turnaround all point to something else, and apparently losing smell and taste due to allergies or a cold is not as uncommon as I thought. As someone with numerous severe allergies and equal exposure to colds as I currently have for COVID, I'm putting my money on one of those instead.
Glad you got a negative result! I'm curious though: will you be required to go back to work sooner than you would have with a positive? You'll probably never be able to find out if it was a false negative, but that seems kind of worrisome to me, if your symptoms are very covid-like but you might need to go back to teaching before the normal covid quarantine period would be over.
Yeah, unfortunately the mishandling of this situation makes pretty much everything about it worrisome. My quarantine-end criteria as far as I know it (and it's confusing because things keep changing) is a negative test + 24 hours without symptoms, which I meet. If I didn't test, it's a 10 day quarantine period (used to be 14 but they shortened it). 10 days from my symptom onset would be next Tuesday, so at worst I'm going back two days before I would have anyway.
The whole thing is kind of bunk anyway, given that so many people are not testing and they're now avoiding contact tracing and notification protocols by saying that there are no close contacts because of our six-feet of distancing between desks. I'm now in the situation where I could have a confirmed positive case in my classroom and wouldn't necessarily be notified. My principal has informed us that he is choosing to notify us in instances like that, and in that regard I'm lucky. He doesn't have to, and many administrators in other schools aren't.
If we were actually implementing protocols with fidelity, it's unlikely schools would be able to be open because the high number of cases and suspected cases would be triggering quarantines like nobody's business -- hence the extreme sliding we've seen on the protocols. Plus, there's the idea that the lag time due to the incubation period plus the testing results delay makes all of this sort of moot anyway. If I were symptomatic on Sunday, that means I was potentially exposed sometime in the past fourteen days, and I was likely already infectious on the Friday before if not earlier. I didn't learn until the Wednesday after about my status, and had it been positive and we notified anyone exposed, they're learning about their own exposure almost a full week later -- potentially enough time to cut off some who might have become infectious since, but not all. Responsive measures will reduce spread but not eliminate it, and we've pretty much collectively decided in America to thumb our noses at preventative measures.
They really should not have opened schools without mandatory testing -- at the very least for teachers, but ideally for students as well.
The Logic of Pandemic Restrictions Is Falling Apart
Daily COVID-19 Data Is About to Get Weird
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The CDC regularly updates their provisional death data, by county, for at least all US counties with at least 10 reported COVID deaths. It is located here:
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-in-the-United-St/kn79-hsxy
I wanted to compare this to the regular number of deaths we see each year in the county I live in, Knox county. Previous years death data is available on the Tennessee Dept of Health site:
https://www.tn.gov/health/health-program-areas/statistics/health-data/death-statistics.html
Total number of deaths in Knox County (in parenthesis is the change from the previous year):
2014: 4474
2015: 4330 (-144)
2016: 4411 (+81)
2017: 4582 (+171)
2018: 4775 (+193)
If we look at 2020 from the CDC provisional data...
2020: 5767 (+992)
But Knox county is only officially reporting 256 COVID related deaths. That's quite the increase from previous years, not attributable to anything but COVID.
I imagine other areas are hiding their real COVID related deaths also. Feel free to find your state's historical death data and compare it to the CDC provisional death table, along with reported COVID deaths.
Note that there can be indirect reasons for excess deaths. For example, people delaying health care due to not wanting to go to the hospital, or "elective surgery" that's actually pretty important being delayed. The cause of death for the individual wouldn't be COVID but it can be attributed to the pandemic.
There are also likely to be some decreases in fatality rate for other causes, like a milder flu season due to people avoiding COVID, or fewer traffic accidents due to not driving as much. Not enough to outweigh the increases, though.
This article from the CDC about overall excess fatality in the US says it was about 300k in mid-October.
(I looked for county statistics but didn't find them right away.)
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This blog post has more examples of other countries using antigen tests.
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(They also warn again about expected problems with the data over Thanksgiving.)
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El Paso was still grieving when the coronavirus arrived. Now, death has overwhelmed it
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Twitter thread (and Threadreader link) that drew a parallel between Covid and the 1918 flu that I hadn't considered or heard discussed before:
Mall Santas brave the pandemic with plexiglass barriers, sanitation elves and snow-globe bubbles
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"and snow-globe bubbles"... My favorite iteration of this that I have seen so far is from a zoo in Denmark, which even made the local news here in Ontario, Canada:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W4Nmr3OIEY
Interesting look at how the best ("90% effective") result of the AstraZeneca / Oxford vaccine was basically the result of a mistake: AstraZeneca’s best COVID vaccine result was a fluke. Experts have questions
The WHO is stressing that it needs a better trial.
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