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How do you handle stress, anxiety, and anything else you might deal with during your day?

Something about posting on psuedoanonymous internet forums tends to quiet panic attacks for me personally, at least. I'd be interested in hearing your methods of coping/mitigating symptoms for things that ail you from day-to-day.

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    Reasonable_Doubt
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    I have two tricks that can help in the moment when having an anxiety attack: If at home, fill a large (bigger than your face) bowl with ice and water. Once full, take a deep breath and plunge your...

    I have two tricks that can help in the moment when having an anxiety attack:

    If at home, fill a large (bigger than your face) bowl with ice and water. Once full, take a deep breath and plunge your face into the water. Hold your breath for as long as you can then come up for air. This stimulates the mammalian diving reflex. I've never had to do this more than twice even in a full blown attack.

    Anywhere else, try the 4-7-8 breathing technique. This helps me while driving or when trying to go to sleep.

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    1. Eva
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      Whoa, that's...really fascinating. I love that. And the breathing technique looks really interesting, too! I knew it existed, but never actually read up on it before - wow that's cool. Thank you!

      If at home, fill a large (bigger than your face) bowl with ice and water. Once full, take a deep breath and plunge your face into the water. Hold your breath for as long as you can then come up for air. This stimulates the mammalian diving reflex. I've never had to do this more than twice even in a full blown attack.

      Whoa, that's...really fascinating. I love that.

      And the breathing technique looks really interesting, too! I knew it existed, but never actually read up on it before - wow that's cool.

      Thank you!

      4 votes
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    cfabbro
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    I suffer from recurring, debilitating panic attacks (clinically diagnosed panic disorder) and daily Zazen meditation has helped me a great deal over the years; Not only in just generally coping...

    I suffer from recurring, debilitating panic attacks (clinically diagnosed panic disorder) and daily Zazen meditation has helped me a great deal over the years; Not only in just generally coping with them but also helping me mitigate their effect and even in preventing them entirely if I catch them coming on early enough. It's super easy to learn the basics, only requires 10-15min a day, requires no special equipment and it just works... all it requires is persistence and consistency in order to get the benefits.

    It's also wonderfully flexible, too. I can do it wherever and whenever I need to, be it in the shower or even when I am out and about. Sometimes I just count my breaths, sometimes I use koans (repeating a phrase or word that has meaning for me, e.g. "Serenity"), and sometimes I listen to music or chanting (e.g. Gyuto monks) while doing it. Sometimes when I am having a really shitty/stressful/panic attack filled week I meditate for an hour or more a day, sometimes when I feel a panic attack coming I can just quickly take some deep breaths while counting them for a few minutes to re-center myself and prevent it from escalating, sometimes in the middle of a panic attack I can just start meditating and it helps me detach to take the edge off.

    For anyone else struggling with panic attacks or generalized anxiety I really can't recommend learning meditation enough, be it Zazen, mindfulness, transcendental or whichever you prefer.

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      Eva
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      Thank you! The concept of it all sounds really interesting; I think I'm going to try it tomorrow; I'm happy you shared this!

      Thank you! The concept of it all sounds really interesting; I think I'm going to try it tomorrow; I'm happy you shared this!

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      1. Xirrin
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        I have to agree with @cfabbro regarding meditation. I've been using it for several years now (personally with mindfulness meditation) and it has made a huge difference for me. 5-20 minutes...

        I have to agree with @cfabbro regarding meditation. I've been using it for several years now (personally with mindfulness meditation) and it has made a huge difference for me. 5-20 minutes regularly and every once in a while for up to 45-60 minutes has really been great. Two suggestions:

        #1 understand that your meditation practice is just that. The "time on the cushion" when you're actively practicing mindfulness meditation really is useful, but it's also practice for when you need those skills during the day. The purpose is to tune you into those abilities so that when things get tough during the day you can fall back on the things you've learned.

        #2 I found this video to be the best opening guide/explanation as to what it is all about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OboD7JrT0NE

        6 votes
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        cfabbro
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        No problem. Hopefully it helps you as much as it's helped me... and if you need any pointers, let me know. To start you off though, the biggest piece of advice I can give is to try your best not...

        No problem. Hopefully it helps you as much as it's helped me... and if you need any pointers, let me know.

        To start you off though, the biggest piece of advice I can give is to try your best not to get frustrated if you can't quiet your mind right away. If it starts wandering, don't fight it, acknowledge the stray thoughts but then let them pass through your mind and just resume counting again. It may take a few attempts at meditation before you are able to reach consistent and prolonged stillness of mind, so just keep at it. The more often you meditate, the easier and quicker you will be able to reach that state, too. Eventually you won't even need to worry about your posture or all the other trappings (but to start they are good to practice to help you build the habit!) and just counting breaths regardless of circumstances will get you there.

        Good luck and happy meditating! :)

        p.s. In case you missed it, that video I linked is a really good intro:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDJ_wbjBL6c

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        1. ruspaceni
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          A little aside here; A OG call of duty youtuber just recently put up a walking and talking vlog about meditation. He's taken a bunch of breaks from youtube as one might do with a hobby, but I'm...

          A little aside here; A OG call of duty youtuber just recently put up a walking and talking vlog about meditation. He's taken a bunch of breaks from youtube as one might do with a hobby, but I'm quite fond of him and he's always struck a chord with me

          Then he uploads this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1d_LH6Rc-U [25:44] talking about his experiences with guided meditation, his meditation retreat, and a few other rambles but I think it's a quite good glimpse into meditation and how it might actually work for different minds.

          Not really sure if this is worth sharing at all, but hearing this ramble the other day made me seriously reconsider trying to start meditating again. Now this thread and your answer popped up so I guess I might just go for it

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        2. Eva
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          Had it open in a browser tab when I woke up already! Thanks again!

          Had it open in a browser tab when I woke up already! Thanks again!

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    pamymaf
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    I have generalized anxiety quite often. Meditation hasn't worked for me, mainly because I have hard times building habits and because the first few sessions increase my anxiety. Venting...

    I have generalized anxiety quite often. Meditation hasn't worked for me, mainly because I have hard times building habits and because the first few sessions increase my anxiety. Venting occasionally helps, but I also bake. I find baking comforting, and the act of measuring and mixing everything perfectly gives my brain something to focus on. Along the same lines, programming, puzzle games, riveting debates, occasionally compulsive cleaning while listening to mid-high tempo EDM, I like things that force me to think about anything other than my anxiety.

    If you imagine anxiety as a pack of rabid squirrels high on cocaine, my method would be like throwing a pack of acorns somewhere else and yelling "FOCUS ON THIS, NOT ME".

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    1. patience_limited
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      Oh good grief, I completely get baking as anxiety relief. I spent years studying chemistry and working as a pastry cook because of the pristine, untroubled beauty of controllable things. At the...

      Oh good grief, I completely get baking as anxiety relief. I spent years studying chemistry and working as a pastry cook because of the pristine, untroubled beauty of controllable things.

      At the same time, I suspect it may be an issue with the definition of "working" for meditation. It doesn't make you feel better, it simply gives you a space to stop reacting to all of the crazy things a brain can come up with. There's no "doing it right", no expectation for how it's supposed to turn out, just sitting and letting the thoughts come and go.

      As to other ways to relax, lapidary work. If you've got even the slightest obsessive or perfectionistic tendency, if a crooked picture frame makes you feel like the world is broken, then putting a micron-perfect polish on a piece of agate is the way to go.

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    2. Eva
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      Hah, that's a really, really good way of putting it; and your methods in general seem to be pretty good, too! Focus's a bit hard to come by for me, personally, but yeah I can definitely relate a...

      If you imagine anxiety as a pack of rabid squirrels high on cocaine, my method would be like throwing a pack of acorns somewhere else and yelling "FOCUS ON THIS, NOT ME".

      Hah, that's a really, really good way of putting it; and your methods in general seem to be pretty good, too! Focus's a bit hard to come by for me, personally, but yeah I can definitely relate a fair bit. (Especially with the "riveting debates" bit. Near-instant feedback loop, compressing thoughts, always fun.)

    3. Tenar
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      Sounds like a lot of things that I do, except programming! I tried to get into it a while back because I enjoyed the puzzle aspect of it, but I couldn't think of anything to actually code or work...

      Sounds like a lot of things that I do, except programming! I tried to get into it a while back because I enjoyed the puzzle aspect of it, but I couldn't think of anything to actually code or work on, plus a lot of open source projects are so damn big that I don't even know where to start, so I just kind of stopped. How do you move on from the very basics to actually doing stuff?

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    aphoenix
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    The biggest coping mechanisms for stress for me are exercise and hobbies. Exercising is like a drug. Specifically, if you get to a place where your body works with you when you're exercising, then...

    The biggest coping mechanisms for stress for me are exercise and hobbies.

    Exercising is like a drug. Specifically, if you get to a place where your body works with you when you're exercising, then just starting to exercise helps to drain the stress out of you.

    Hobbies are therapeutic as well. Some of them I do directly as stress relievers, such as speed cubing or juggling. Some I do to preemptively keep myself sane - I make sure to have some "me time" every week wherein I do something entirely for my own enjoyment, because life is meant to be enjoyed.

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    1. Eva
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      Definitely IRT exercise! Very little's better to calm down than running. Difficult in this weather though, ha! I probably should get a hobby. Wow I never thought I'd say that.

      Definitely IRT exercise! Very little's better to calm down than running. Difficult in this weather though, ha!

      I probably should get a hobby. Wow I never thought I'd say that.

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    1. zoec
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      So very true! And safety always comes first. When we feel the worst inside, refraining from judging ourselves is the first step in establishing safety.

      [S]ometimes there's nothing I can do other than curl up in bed for a whole day, and learning not to judge myself when that happens has been crucial.

      So very true! And safety always comes first. When we feel the worst inside, refraining from judging ourselves is the first step in establishing safety.

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  6. temporalarcheologist
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    weed atm, formerly adderall (which was terrible for me), and a little bit of meditation

    weed atm, formerly adderall (which was terrible for me), and a little bit of meditation

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  7. mrbig
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    Regular anxiety: accept that it's unavoidable be one with your anxiousness. Clinical anxiety: psychotherapy, weed, medication.

    Regular anxiety: accept that it's unavoidable be one with your anxiousness.
    Clinical anxiety: psychotherapy, weed, medication.

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    zoec
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    Eva, I hope you'll be getting better all the time! I think there is a general pattern: When we are able to articulate and be listened to, we will feel less anxious. From my experience, I feel...

    Eva, I hope you'll be getting better all the time!

    Something about posting on psuedoanonymous internet forums tends to quiet panic attacks for me personally, at least.

    I think there is a general pattern: When we are able to articulate and be listened to, we will feel less anxious. From my experience, I feel extremely fortunate for the occasions where I was in need of emotional support and was given it. For me the problem was that I wasn't ready to be given the support. Then a vicious state of self-isolation took root.

    I really believe that the awareness of "I need help, because ...", and the knowledge of "who can help when...", are life-saving. This includes the awareness of "I can help myself in need, when...".

    I second @cfabbro's recommendation for intentional breathing and meditation. I think they're a great way of training the awareness of emotions. The awareness and familiarity with emotions is a sort of bodily knowledge about the self. This knowledge is... empowering, for the lack of a better word.

    I don't even think there's a strict boundary between self-care and caring for each other. Either implies the other and is embedded in the other.

    Some disclosure for context... I've been on medication and psychotherapy for anxiety and depression. The meds helps me with one thing: reducing the likeliness of the worst episodes. The rest is emotional work.

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      Eva
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      You too! And yeah, I can definitely relate to rapid self-isolation; I'm really, really glad I haven't felt insanely isolated in a while. It definitely does help with overall anxiety levels.

      Eva, I hope you'll be getting better all the time!

      You too!

      And yeah, I can definitely relate to rapid self-isolation; I'm really, really glad I haven't felt insanely isolated in a while. It definitely does help with overall anxiety levels.

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      1. zoec
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        Thank you, Eva <3 You're so kind. I believe your kindness will guide you in your inner motions, and you'll be well!

        Thank you, Eva <3 You're so kind.

        I believe your kindness will guide you in your inner motions, and you'll be well!

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    Emerald_Knight
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    I manage chaos by introducing order. Constructive distraction. Divert focus from chaotic, stressful events and focus instead on something that has structure, like a task, a game, or a show that...

    I manage chaos by introducing order. Constructive distraction. Divert focus from chaotic, stressful events and focus instead on something that has structure, like a task, a game, or a show that has a plot. Not escapism, mind you, as I still handle the causes of my stress, but alleviating the stress through an activity that occupies my excess head space.

    I would meditate, but my brain is far too active and it never works. Constructive distraction is a much more effective strategy for me.

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    1. Eva
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      Yeah, that sounds like a pretty good idea. Getting a head to shut up is pretty hard.

      Yeah, that sounds like a pretty good idea. Getting a head to shut up is pretty hard.

      1 vote
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    Catt
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    Meditation's come up a few times already, and I just wanted to add a bit to that. I'm terrible at sitting still and being "calm". I prefer a "moving meditation", which for me is yoga. I do the one...

    Meditation's come up a few times already, and I just wanted to add a bit to that. I'm terrible at sitting still and being "calm". I prefer a "moving meditation", which for me is yoga. I do the one breath, one movement, one intention. And just try to be present in the physical form itself, holding longer, stretching deeper, shifting the balance to work on strength. The focus is on keeping the breath calm - inhaling deeply and exhaling in measured time.

    Before yoga, I did this with running. Just focusing on calm, measured breaths while looking up and running. (This is obviously not one breath one movement.)

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      Eva
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      Running's definitely useful; yeah! Yoga's interesting, and I think you've given the first description of what it's about that I haven't immediately responded with "What...?" to - you make it sound...

      Running's definitely useful; yeah! Yoga's interesting, and I think you've given the first description of what it's about that I haven't immediately responded with "What...?" to - you make it sound pretty cool.

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      1. Catt
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        Aw thanks. I hope you try it out!

        Aw thanks. I hope you try it out!

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