18 votes

Her son died. And then anti-vaxers attacked her

13 comments

  1. Eylrid
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    This is so tragic. How can people be so heartless?

    This is so tragic. How can people be so heartless?

    1 vote
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    cfabbro
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    I'm really not a fan of the daily mail. Here is the original, more in-depth CNN article they cited (and basically copied everything from, merely rewording all the details) that I suggest people...

    I'm really not a fan of the daily mail. Here is the original, more in-depth CNN article they cited (and basically copied everything from, merely rewording all the details) that I suggest people read instead:
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/health/anti-vax-harassment-eprise/index.html

    14 votes
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      Deimos
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      Thanks, replaced the link since it looks like it was just blogspam of the CNN article.

      Thanks, replaced the link since it looks like it was just blogspam of the CNN article.

      6 votes
      1. mat
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        Also it's the Daily Mail. Sending them traffic should be considered harmful.

        Also it's the Daily Mail. Sending them traffic should be considered harmful.

        10 votes
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          Deimos
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          It's in the Topic Log in the sidebar. I edit titles and links regularly, and some other users have permissions to edit titles as well. Tags are edited as well, and things are moved between groups....

          It's in the Topic Log in the sidebar. I edit titles and links regularly, and some other users have permissions to edit titles as well. Tags are edited as well, and things are moved between groups. If you're not comfortable with those kind of actions, then I guess Tildes isn't for you, because that's how this site works.

          2 votes
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              Amarok
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              I think it's an improvement on reddit's delete-everything edit-nothing mentality. Why kill a good thread when you can just polish it a bit and make it better? People will eventually abuse these...

              I think it's an improvement on reddit's delete-everything edit-nothing mentality. Why kill a good thread when you can just polish it a bit and make it better? People will eventually abuse these powers, but that's just going to result in it getting fixed and them losing access. We've had some past discussion about the nuances of allowing for link and title editing.

              3 votes
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                1. Amarok
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                  Any tools that grant expanded powers will attract users who want to abuse that power for a whole host of reasons. Their reasons aren't pertinent, though - the abuse of the power is what matters,...

                  Any tools that grant expanded powers will attract users who want to abuse that power for a whole host of reasons. Their reasons aren't pertinent, though - the abuse of the power is what matters, not the why. On places like reddit, the admins don't take any real steps to curb those abuses. A system like this would fail over there. Tildes will address the abuse, the entire system is designed from the mindset of trusting users and punishing abusers. Right now that trust is simple - Deimos grants expanded powers to some people, and if they abuse them, he takes that power away. It's enough to get started. Eventually this will be handled by Tildes' trust system so it can scale up to large numbers of users.

                  3 votes
    2. [5]
      Pilgrim
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      Thanks! I'll avoid that outlet moving forward.

      Thanks! I'll avoid that outlet moving forward.

      3 votes
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        Deimos
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        It's not so much the specific outlet (though Daily Mail is often bad), as that we should aim to always have the source article when possible. If an article contains a lot of phrases like "a new...

        It's not so much the specific outlet (though Daily Mail is often bad), as that we should aim to always have the source article when possible. If an article contains a lot of phrases like "a new report reveals", "according to a Tuesday report from CNN", "according to CNN", "Promoli told CNN", and so on, they're obviously just re-writing someone else's story.

        Almost every major site does this constantly so that they can have the popular stories on their own site, but we should try to link to the actual source of the story instead of the rewrites.

        9 votes
        1. Pilgrim
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          Excellent clarification. I'll work harder to do this moving forward. Thanks!

          Excellent clarification. I'll work harder to do this moving forward. Thanks!

          3 votes
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        cfabbro
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        No worries. Despite my distaste for them from having lived in the UK, they don't need to be avoided entirely, IMO. They do a fair amount of investigative reporting so on many things they are the...

        No worries. Despite my distaste for them from having lived in the UK, they don't need to be avoided entirely, IMO. They do a fair amount of investigative reporting so on many things they are the original source and they can be reasonably objective when they want to be (albeit with a right slant). Unfortunately they also often just rewrite material from other, better sources but just amp up the clickbait/ragebait to appeal to their older, incredibly conservative audience... so I tend to take everything they say with a heavy dose of salt and seek out alternative sources on anything they report if I can.

        4 votes
        1. Pilgrim
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          The super long title should have been a tip off I think.

          The super long title should have been a tip off I think.

          2 votes
  3. Pilgrim
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    I had to shorten the very long title to fit Tildes character limit. Here is the full title: 'Pharma w**re!' Anti-vaxxers launch cruel Facebook attacks on mothers of children who have died of the...

    I had to shorten the very long title to fit Tildes character limit. Here is the full title:

    'Pharma w**re!' Anti-vaxxers launch cruel Facebook attacks on mothers of children who have died of the flu and say they are being paid to share their stories by the pharmaceutical industry to advocate getting shots

    1 vote