That is an unusual definition of intelligence, being excellent at philosophy, statesmanship, poetry and the arts. I wonder, how many happy people are drawn to philosophy, statesmanship, poetry and...
That is an unusual definition of intelligence, being excellent at philosophy, statesmanship, poetry and the arts.
I wonder, how many happy people are drawn to philosophy, statesmanship, poetry and the arts?
How many of those who dedicate their lives to philosophy, statesmanship, poetry and the arts find light hearted happiness?
I mean, ignorance is bliss. This piece holds to a narrow idea of intelligence, but insofar as it does, it's accurate. I think the naïvete factor is a critical one, because I believe what...
I mean, ignorance is bliss.
This piece holds to a narrow idea of intelligence, but insofar as it does, it's accurate. I think the naïvete factor is a critical one, because I believe what intelligent melancholics really struggle with is, as Kuromantis mentioned, the ultimate futility of it all. They are smart enough to recognize it but can't bring themselves to truly accept it. By contrast, the sages learn to accept things, and they are not troubled.
For a perspective of what can be argued is another type of melancholy from another type of intelligence, I highly recommend Kahlil Gibran's The Madman.
I don't know if this is the right thread to say this, I have this condition called Maladaptive Daydreaming there is no clinical diagnosis for this condition, but I relate to almost all of the...
I don't know if this is the right thread to say this,
I have this condition called Maladaptive Daydreaming there is no clinical diagnosis for this condition, but I relate to almost all of the symptoms and stories from the subreddit. Basically when one of the many triggers occurs I get lost in a fantasy world were usually I am some kind of famous person and people I know look up to me.
I don't remember exactly when this condition started but at its early stages the trigger has been mostly listening to music. But as I grow up more and more triggers evolved recently I found out a new trigger, a weird one, when reading or watching people saying(in TV shows or movies) specific kind of quotes.
A sunny mood might be more pleasant, but it was also liable to be founded on illusion and denial: the melancholic were sad because they knew and had the courage to hold on to the tragedy of their insights.
Being disappointed isn’t any sort of intellectual achievement; and nor is being merry.
These quotes were one of those triggers, when these type of triggers happen I fantasize about saying them to an audience and people applauding for it. It doesn't stop there, my brain make up stories for about 15 minutes after the trigger. This has affected my day to day lives but as someone with severe social anxiety issues keeping myself entertained with my own thoughts is kind of a boon. Rant over.. :)
As for the reply to the article, I do not consider myself even remotely as an intellectual, that's probably why I never been melancholic. If we are taking authors words I fall into the "rage" category of people, but I also most times "resist the temptation to respond to provocations with fury or vindictiveness" at least recently.
How insincere most social occasions are; the gap between what others say and what they mean; the bluster and deceit within the promises of politicians and corporations; the ultimate futility of all efforts to become famous or well thought of; the loneliness that dogs us even within the most intimate relationships; the disappointments of parenting; the compromises of friendship; the ugliness of cities and the brevity of our own lives.
I think it has a lot to do with how people: Aren't fundamentally logical and reason-based, likely because our brains have only been adapted to pre-agriculture existence because evolution can't...
I think it has a lot to do with how people:
Aren't fundamentally logical and reason-based, likely because our brains have only been adapted to pre-agriculture existence because evolution can't keep up with human civilization, which compels those who are or learn to be those things to get in power and abuse the shit out of it and those who are but don't or can't just sit by and watch people be so dumb.
In a hunter-gatherer setting, your only evidence is your eyes, ears and memories so anything that isn't visible to those things like many gradual occurances are missed and there must be something visible for those things to be the cause, which causes scapegoating.
In a hunter-gatherer setting, you aren't under any sort of authority or constraints other than your own so if people who don't feel something constraining them they will often just assume you're constraining yourself. This creates myths like "poor people are just lazy" or "the police aren't racist, you're just a criminal" or self interested voting.
All of these things are exploited and the masses go along with it and you can do nothing but sit there and watch, hopefully not at your own expense and pray someone who cares about education is in the ballot. That unsurprisingly creates melancholy.
I've always been under the impression that the human brain operates heuristically and "discovers" logic through learning. Maybe as with language there is an evolved structural pre-disposition...
Aren't fundamentally logical and reason-based, likely because our brains have only been adapted to pre-agriculture existence ...
I've always been under the impression that the human brain operates heuristically and "discovers" logic through learning. Maybe as with language there is an evolved structural pre-disposition towards learning logical reasoning - or maybe that propensity for language-acquisition is a manifestation of a broader tendency towards acquiring logic.
I think one point that is missing is tragedy ; the aesthetic pleasure you find in dark things. I think it's pretty apparent in music and art in general that there's a very strong sense of beauty,...
I think one point that is missing is tragedy ; the aesthetic pleasure you find in dark things. I think it's pretty apparent in music and art in general that there's a very strong sense of beauty, even jubilation, into drama, making it a sweet and sour dish.
As someone prone to melancholy this is, perhaps, a bit of self-indulgent wankery. Of course, the article points that out in its first sentence too.
That is an unusual definition of intelligence, being excellent at philosophy, statesmanship, poetry and the arts.
I wonder, how many happy people are drawn to philosophy, statesmanship, poetry and the arts?
How many of those who dedicate their lives to philosophy, statesmanship, poetry and the arts find light hearted happiness?
I mean, ignorance is bliss.
This piece holds to a narrow idea of intelligence, but insofar as it does, it's accurate. I think the naïvete factor is a critical one, because I believe what intelligent melancholics really struggle with is, as Kuromantis mentioned, the ultimate futility of it all. They are smart enough to recognize it but can't bring themselves to truly accept it. By contrast, the sages learn to accept things, and they are not troubled.
For a perspective of what can be argued is another type of melancholy from another type of intelligence, I highly recommend Kahlil Gibran's The Madman.
I don't know if this is the right thread to say this,
I have this condition called Maladaptive Daydreaming there is no clinical diagnosis for this condition, but I relate to almost all of the symptoms and stories from the subreddit. Basically when one of the many triggers occurs I get lost in a fantasy world were usually I am some kind of famous person and people I know look up to me.
I don't remember exactly when this condition started but at its early stages the trigger has been mostly listening to music. But as I grow up more and more triggers evolved recently I found out a new trigger, a weird one, when reading or watching people saying(in TV shows or movies) specific kind of quotes.
These quotes were one of those triggers, when these type of triggers happen I fantasize about saying them to an audience and people applauding for it. It doesn't stop there, my brain make up stories for about 15 minutes after the trigger. This has affected my day to day lives but as someone with severe social anxiety issues keeping myself entertained with my own thoughts is kind of a boon. Rant over.. :)
As for the reply to the article, I do not consider myself even remotely as an intellectual, that's probably why I never been melancholic. If we are taking authors words I fall into the "rage" category of people, but I also most times "resist the temptation to respond to provocations with fury or vindictiveness" at least recently.
Isn't this common sense nowadays?
I think it has a lot to do with how people:
Aren't fundamentally logical and reason-based, likely because our brains have only been adapted to pre-agriculture existence because evolution can't keep up with human civilization, which compels those who are or learn to be those things to get in power and abuse the shit out of it and those who are but don't or can't just sit by and watch people be so dumb.
In a hunter-gatherer setting, your only evidence is your eyes, ears and memories so anything that isn't visible to those things like many gradual occurances are missed and there must be something visible for those things to be the cause, which causes scapegoating.
In a hunter-gatherer setting, you aren't under any sort of authority or constraints other than your own so if people who don't feel something constraining them they will often just assume you're constraining yourself. This creates myths like "poor people are just lazy" or "the police aren't racist, you're just a criminal" or self interested voting.
All of these things are exploited and the masses go along with it and you can do nothing but sit there and watch, hopefully not at your own expense and pray someone who cares about education is in the ballot. That unsurprisingly creates melancholy.
I've always been under the impression that the human brain operates heuristically and "discovers" logic through learning. Maybe as with language there is an evolved structural pre-disposition towards learning logical reasoning - or maybe that propensity for language-acquisition is a manifestation of a broader tendency towards acquiring logic.
I think one point that is missing is tragedy ; the aesthetic pleasure you find in dark things. I think it's pretty apparent in music and art in general that there's a very strong sense of beauty, even jubilation, into drama, making it a sweet and sour dish.