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You're not traumatized, you're just hurt

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  1. [5]
    The_Ejj
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    This reminds me of something I’ve heard on a parenting podcast. One of the hosts lamented that, younger generations “are being told that feeling bad is the same as being harmed.”

    This reminds me of something I’ve heard on a parenting podcast. One of the hosts lamented that, younger generations “are being told that feeling bad is the same as being harmed.”

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      Pioneer
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      I've got a couple of books floating around that talk of the exact same issue. Psychological terminology is being co-opted by non-academic / non-practicing folks who've had a bit of therapy and...

      I've got a couple of books floating around that talk of the exact same issue.

      Psychological terminology is being co-opted by non-academic / non-practicing folks who've had a bit of therapy and BOOM... trauma, trigger and a wide range of self-diagnosis.

      I'm training to be a therapist and at the moment I hear LOTS of folks talking PTSD & Covid and it frustrates me to see something so complex, boiled down to "It was a really shit time for a lot of people." Some folks are genuinely struggling due to long-covid OR they're still shielding for one reason or another, or they've become agoraphobic. But Jenny from HR is Traumatised despite not showing any symptoms of that trauma such as freaking out in large rooms, seeing FFF-reflex kick in when people step close, etc...

      It's okay to be hurt, angry, pissed off, betrayed or attacked (Or okay to feel it.) It is not okay to then use it as an excuse for pisspoor behaviour or excuses (a constant issue I am seeing.)

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        Drewbahr
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        The only thing I would argue is this; you mention in the same paragraph that you're frustrated seeing something "so complex", boiled down to "it was a really shit time for a lot of people" ... and...

        The only thing I would argue is this; you mention in the same paragraph that you're frustrated seeing something "so complex", boiled down to "it was a really shit time for a lot of people" ... and similarly saying that because someone doesn't show the symptoms you expect, that they can't be suffering from a form of trauma.

        The issue is complex, and you're right that people are often misusing psychological terminology outside of its intended meanings. But people do that with language in general; technical, specific terms get co-opted by the general populace and misused all the time. Just, now it's happening with psychological terms. While someone might not have technically experienced trauma in the way that the term is specifically used in psychology, we do people a disservice to say that they can't possibly have experienced trauma because they didn't exhibit the right set of symptoms.

        That "piss poor behavior" could very well be a symptom of the very trauma(s) that are being dismissed out of hand.

        I am not a psychologist by any means, so take my opinions (and that is all they are) with a heaping spoonful of salt.

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          Pioneer
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          I know what you're getting at, don't worry. It's reductive of me not to go into more detail and it's probably a comment that needs a bit of tidying up. A lot of piss poor behaviour is more...

          I know what you're getting at, don't worry. It's reductive of me not to go into more detail and it's probably a comment that needs a bit of tidying up.

          A lot of piss poor behaviour is more exacerbated behaviour from pre-covid, excessive self-entitlement, extreme responses and accusations when you're instructing on the basic things (especially in the workplace.) That's the type of behaviour I'm referring to.

          Folks seem to be a lot quicker to provoke, more entitled and frankly have WORSE attitudes than I've seen in a long time.

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            1. Pioneer
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              I've seen it in both older and younger people. Older people are way more entitled in their position in your world. Younger people are more oblivious and don't care if they ruin your day. Middle...

              I've seen it in both older and younger people.

              Older people are way more entitled in their position in your world. Younger people are more oblivious and don't care if they ruin your day. Middle age has the same issues, but given I'm 35 I have no idea where those ages start of finish except for anecdotally.

              But it's getting really bad in some cities in the UK.

              4 votes
  2. [2]
    NaraVara
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    Anna Akana does a good job of contextualizing therapeutic and mental health insights to make them generally applicable for regular life. In this video she warns against using pop-psychology and...

    Anna Akana does a good job of contextualizing therapeutic and mental health insights to make them generally applicable for regular life.

    In this video she warns against using pop-psychology and therapy speak as a deflection tactic or a strategy to avoid personal growth or introspection or productive engagement with other people.

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    1. Drewbahr
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      It should be noted that she talks about misusing psychological concepts to diagnose others, which is ... well, frankly, it's the same thing she's doing. "You're not traumatized, you're just hurt"...
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      It should be noted that she talks about misusing psychological concepts to diagnose others, which is ... well, frankly, it's the same thing she's doing.

      "You're not traumatized, you're just hurt" is diagnosing others by misusing psychological concepts. Her byline is "actor, writer, director" - notably absent is "psychologist".

      EDIT TO ADD: Having now watched the whole video ... yeah, I don't agree with her. For one, she starts her argument broadly - talking about what she sees as the rampant misuse of psychological terms in circumstances that don't warrant them. That's fine. She then shifts her focus into inter-relationship dynamics ... which, okay, that's fine too, but now we've shifted the focus from misusing psychological terms, to personal relationships.

      She then proceeds to explain her own views on the matter, which is fine - but it's also laden with the same simplified, misused psychology she claims to abhor. She even goes as far as to blame her viewers for their own predicaments, based solely on the notion that none of them have done any introspection.

      I don't fundamentally disagree with her original point - odds are, psychological terms are being used well beyond their original, intended meanings. But that's true of most language that gets adopted outside of the sciences; people misuse the term "hypothesis" all the time. Language is flexible, and intentionally so.

      At the end of the day, I feel like this video swings the pendulum too far in the opposite direction. For someone claiming that relationships are nuanced and need to be flexible, her views on them ... aren't. She just blames people for being in their own circumstances.

      41 votes