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'Woke coke': Drug dealers marketing 'ethically sourced' cocaine

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    Tardigrade
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    As much as it sounds ridiculous and the article makes it clear it's nothing more than marketing I wish there was a way for it to be true as if people will do something anyway it's better for it to...

    As much as it sounds ridiculous and the article makes it clear it's nothing more than marketing I wish there was a way for it to be true as if people will do something anyway it's better for it to be better for people in the places it's made.

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      vord
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      Prohibition of drugs will never work. Drug addiction is a medical problem, not a criminal one. All prohibition does is push production/distribution underground, reducing capability to do actual...

      Prohibition of drugs will never work. Drug addiction is a medical problem, not a criminal one.

      All prohibition does is push production/distribution underground, reducing capability to do actual ethical and sustainable sourcing and eliminating quality control. It also prevent users from seeking help.

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        EgoEimi
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        I feel that it is more broadly a cultural-economic-societal problem. This isn't fact or anything: this is just what I've observed and interpreted. I tread in the gay techie world, and I see a lot...

        Drug addiction is a medical problem, not a criminal one.

        I feel that it is more broadly a cultural-economic-societal problem. This isn't fact or anything: this is just what I've observed and interpreted. I tread in the gay techie world, and I see a lot of drug use and abuse.

        These experiences have made me ponder about what is it about the way our society and our economy are structured such that it's so very difficult to find fulfillment and meaning, even for highly affluent gay men working in tech, such that people want drugs to escape the bleakness.

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          teaearlgraycold
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          I think the separation of labor and social credit is the main cause. Well paid tech workers should be lucky enough to see extra rewards for extra work. But the work itself can be meaningless. If...

          I think the separation of labor and social credit is the main cause. Well paid tech workers should be lucky enough to see extra rewards for extra work. But the work itself can be meaningless. If you complete a project no one in your circles outside of work benefits.

          We need a more tightly knit society. We need more trades jobs. I would love to finish a day at work fixing something of my neighbor’s and see them and their family eased by it later in the week.

          In some societies your job might be that you’re the guy that gets the water. Every day you get a few families’ daily water requirement. There’s no question how important that is. But in a developed nation water is a solved problem. Clean, abundant water is free for everyone. One by one we have eliminated the labor requirements of basic human needs.

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          1. Micycle_the_Bichael
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            I wouldn’t say this is true in the US. “Clean, abundant water that is affordable and accessible to many” is a much more accurate description....

            But in a developed nation water is a solved problem. Clean, abundant water is free for everyone.

            I wouldn’t say this is true in the US. “Clean, abundant water that is affordable and accessible to many” is a much more accurate description.

            https://time.com/longform/clean-water-access-united-states/

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            EgoEimi
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            I think that yours is an excellent articulation of the problem. Where can I learn more about this?

            I think that yours is an excellent articulation of the problem. Where can I learn more about this?

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            1. teaearlgraycold
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              I’m not well read on this. My guess is you could find communist texts that cover it.

              I’m not well read on this. My guess is you could find communist texts that cover it.

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        2. nox
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          This patronising narrative really bothers me. Recreational drug use doesn't necessarily come from a need to escape. You wouldn't say that about any other form of recreation- "Tennis is just...

          people want drugs to escape the bleakness.

          This patronising narrative really bothers me. Recreational drug use doesn't necessarily come from a need to escape. You wouldn't say that about any other form of recreation- "Tennis is just escapism, leaving your problems behind!"

          It's fun to consume drugs. Most people that consume drugs recreationally do so simply because they enjoy it. If people had more economic power and more time for recreation they would almost certainly take more drugs, not less. Recreational drug use is not a metric for how bad society has become.

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            cfabbro
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            At least in my experience with the gay club and rave scene in the 90s-00s, and as a former addict myself, I would say that truly fulfilled/healthy/happy people of sound mind were a tiny tiny...

            At least in my experience with the gay club and rave scene in the 90s-00s, and as a former addict myself, I would say that truly fulfilled/healthy/happy people of sound mind were a tiny tiny minority of hard drug users. The vast majority of the people I knew who did them (myself included) were using them mostly to escape, cope, and/or self-medicate.

            Don't get me wrong, they were also fun to do too... but there are plenty of other, less self-destructive things you can do for fun. And overall, the damaged people I knew definitely seemed to gravitate more towards hard drug usage than the totally happy/healthy/sound-minded people, and the more damaged they were the more the pull towards those heavier drugs... which probably explains why I got so deep into them. :(

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              1. cfabbro
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                Growing up is hard, but growing up LGBT+ is often way harder, IMO. And even people who manage to navigate the early-life LGBT+ gauntlet and come out seemingly well adjusted, educated, and employed...

                Growing up is hard, but growing up LGBT+ is often way harder, IMO. And even people who manage to navigate the early-life LGBT+ gauntlet and come out seemingly well adjusted, educated, and employed can actually still have a hidden wake of hardship behind them. Sadly, physical/mental abuse at home and school, and friend/family disownment (or worse) when 'coming out' used to be the standard, not the exception like it thankfully seems to be becoming today. And unfortunately, healthy coping mechanisms for dealing with that shit often aren't easy to come by, or cheap (in the case of therapy)... whereas drugs are often both.

                Or perhaps all that is just projection, and what I used to justify my own slide into the abyss of hard drug usage. Who knows. :P

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      EgoEimi
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      I feel a little weird for admitting this, but "woke coke" is something that is totally targeted at people like me. I've never done cocaine. It's something I want to do on rare occasions. However,...

      I feel a little weird for admitting this, but "woke coke" is something that is totally targeted at people like me.

      I've never done cocaine. It's something I want to do on rare occasions. However, I am totally restrained by my knowledge that modern production and distribution of cocaine fuels a lot of human suffering.

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      1. mrbig
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        Don't... :/

        It's something I want to do on rare occasions

        Don't... :/

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  2. mat
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    Sort of related to this, I have a friend whose weed dealer uses compostable baggies, which I think is a nice touch. I don't think they charge extra but I haven't asked.

    Sort of related to this, I have a friend whose weed dealer uses compostable baggies, which I think is a nice touch. I don't think they charge extra but I haven't asked.

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