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The Israeli settlers attacking their Palestinian neighbors – With the world’s focus on Gaza, settlers have used wartime chaos as cover for violence and dispossession

Posted by ignorabimus
Tags: israel, palestine, gaza strip, 2023 israel hamas war, communities, borders, illegal settlements, violence, author.shane bauer, source.the new yorker, long read, paywall
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/03/04/israel-west-bank-settlers-attacks-palestinians

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Title
The Israeli Settlers Attacking Their Palestinian Neighbors
Authors
The New Yorker
Published
Feb 26 2024
Word count
8193 words

11 comments

  1. [7]
    creesch
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    I feel like this belongs more in ~news, I am not sure why it was moved from there? Or otherwise ~misc. It certainly does not belong on ~life given the tildes description @mycketforvirrad or...

    I feel like this belongs more in ~news, I am not sure why it was moved from there? Or otherwise ~misc.

    It certainly does not belong on ~life given the tildes description

    Topics related to our personal (and professional) lives - work, school, families, relationships, parenting, etc.

    @mycketforvirrad or @cfabbro I guess. I just realized I have no clue how to contact mods or know who they are? Can't seem to find it in the docs either.

    8 votes
    2. [5]
      boxer_dogs_dance
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      @Deimos is the mod, but moving posts and changing tags is something several people can do, including the people you pinged here. I do not have any privileges to change anything, but thought I'd...

      @Deimos is the mod, but moving posts and changing tags is something several people can do, including the people you pinged here.

      I do not have any privileges to change anything, but thought I'd answer.

      Also the malice tag is the report button.

      1. [4]
        creesch
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        Well yeah, I know Deimos effectively can do everything. But I don't know who else can move things around and what actually is the best way to reach them. Other than just knowing who can, and...

        Well yeah, I know Deimos effectively can do everything. But I don't know who else can move things around and what actually is the best way to reach them. Other than just knowing who can, and pinging them.

        1 vote
        1. [3]
          boxer_dogs_dance
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          You pinged the two I know about. I have their names saved because spelling. You know how to send private messages? Pinging and messaging are the two methods I know.

          You pinged the two I know about. I have their names saved because spelling.

          You know how to send private messages? Pinging and messaging are the two methods I know.

          1. [2]
            creesch
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            Might as well ping them then. I was mostly wondering if I am missing/overlooking some reporting mechanism, or if that simply hasn't been implemented yet.

            Might as well ping them then. I was mostly wondering if I am missing/overlooking some reporting mechanism, or if that simply hasn't been implemented yet.

            1. boxer_dogs_dance
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              The only reporting mechanism I am aware of is the malice tag

              The only reporting mechanism I am aware of is the malice tag

  2. [4]
    ebonGavia
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    It boggles my mind that we keep having to mince words – referring to these thieving, murderous, terrorists with delicate euphemisms like "settler".

    It boggles my mind that we keep having to mince words – referring to these thieving, murderous, terrorists with delicate euphemisms like "settler".

    7 votes
    1. [3]
      Minori
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      I don't think it's a euphemism. Maybe "settler" has a positive connotation sometimes, but it's also used in terms like settler colonialism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settler_colonialism

      I don't think it's a euphemism. Maybe "settler" has a positive connotation sometimes, but it's also used in terms like settler colonialism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settler_colonialism

      7 votes
      1. [2]
        FarraigePlaisteach
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        That’s true, but if I can play devils advocate here: if you aren’t in the know, as many aren’t, then it seems like a neutral term. It could be interpreted as someone who settles down, for example....

        That’s true, but if I can play devils advocate here: if you aren’t in the know, as many aren’t, then it seems like a neutral term. It could be interpreted as someone who settles down, for example.

        Terms like thief are much clearer. It’s a bit brutal but leaves little room for ambiguity.

        3 votes
        1. Minori
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          The trouble with a term like thief is it's very broad. It also has a particularly ugly history when used to describe ethnic groups, so I think it's best avoided. Maybe you could specify "land...

          The trouble with a term like thief is it's very broad. It also has a particularly ugly history when used to describe ethnic groups, so I think it's best avoided.

          Maybe you could specify "land thief", but that's just as problematic from an ethnosemantics point-of-view. At the point we're using two words, settler colonialists is more descriptive.

          I think it's fine to just say the settlers are stealing peoples' homes. Language is an imperfect medium anyway.

          1 vote