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Thor: Love And Thunder comes under fire for queerbaiting

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    lou
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    It's really weird how LGBT free the MCU has been up until now. Are there any major LGBT character that I don't know of?

    It's really weird how LGBT free the MCU has been up until now. Are there any major LGBT character that I don't know of?

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      vord
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      Eh, if you consider how old the MCU is, and that open homosexuality was fairly taboo well into the 90's, it makes sense. That said, I don't follow it that deep so I wouldn't know where to really...

      Eh, if you consider how old the MCU is, and that open homosexuality was fairly taboo well into the 90's, it makes sense.

      That said, I don't follow it that deep so I wouldn't know where to really dive in.

      5 votes
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        lou
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        I'm a fan of Marvel Comics since the late 80s. I understand where it comes from, but we're in 2022, and nowadays it's pretty weird not to have any well known LGBT characters in such a huge roster...

        I'm a fan of Marvel Comics since the late 80s. I understand where it comes from, but we're in 2022, and nowadays it's pretty weird not to have any well known LGBT characters in such a huge roster of characters. We're talking about 29 movies and a few TV shows. That's a lot. It's just weird.

        I'm not even necessarily talking politics here, it's weird from a statistical standpoint. If you can have two wizards, a sentient tree and a flying android, you surely can have a gay dude.

        I'm really talking about the MCU, Marvel Comics have a bunch of LGBT characters.

        5 votes
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          TheRtRevKaiser
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          I completely agree with you that they really need better representation in major characters, not just side characters or bit parts, but there have been a few. One of the major characters in...

          I completely agree with you that they really need better representation in major characters, not just side characters or bit parts, but there have been a few. One of the major characters in Eternals was an openly gay, married man. He has an on-screen kiss and everything. In my eyes that was a pretty big step, but I can see how it wouldn't have gotten much attention given that Eternals kinda sucked 😂. America Chavez is supposedly a lesbian, and from what I've been reading is supposed to be a major character in some of the upcoming stuff, but that wasn't really obvious in her initial appearance in Multiverse of Madness (though she did have two moms in her flashback).

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          1. lou
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            Oh I haven't seen the Eternals. Will do.

            Oh I haven't seen the Eternals. Will do.

            1 vote
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          vord
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          Ah, again I didn't really catch the distinction. In that case the answer is simpler: Disney. They are not fans of deviating from heteronormativity and "good Christian values." There is a long...

          Ah, again I didn't really catch the distinction. In that case the answer is simpler: Disney.

          They are not fans of deviating from heteronormativity and "good Christian values."

          There is a long track record there for everything they own, which is a lot of stuff.

          Edit: Meant to say... Even if there is a gay Marvel character, they're likely to downplay it as a result.

          5 votes
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            balooga
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            I don't think it's Disney, necessarily... it's China. Disney is trying very hard to appease PRC censors to ensure MCU distribution in that market.

            I don't think it's Disney, necessarily... it's China. Disney is trying very hard to appease PRC censors to ensure MCU distribution in that market.

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            1. alexandria
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              I mean, you say that, but I watched a chinese cinema rip of Endgame and it contained the gay guy referencing his husband. "common knowledge" was that it was removed by the censors, but the version...

              I mean, you say that, but I watched a chinese cinema rip of Endgame and it contained the gay guy referencing his husband. "common knowledge" was that it was removed by the censors, but the version I saw which was very literally shown in a Chinese cinema, and had the golden dragon before it, had kept it in. So I'm not really sure where all of this is coming from.

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            post_below
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            Didn't Disney lose their special district status in Florida for publicly opposing an anti-LGBTQ bill?

            Didn't Disney lose their special district status in Florida for publicly opposing an anti-LGBTQ bill?

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            1. th0mcat
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              Corporations talk out of both sides of their mouth. Disney's PR acceptance of LGBTQ+ issues is cool, but everyone should recognize it for being empty and completely self-serving. This is not at...

              Corporations talk out of both sides of their mouth.

              Disney's PR acceptance of LGBTQ+ issues is cool, but everyone should recognize it for being empty and completely self-serving.

              This is not at all a defense of Desantis.

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            2. wedgel
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              I'm pretty sure that was Ron Desantis posturing. Since right of the gates it would end up moving over a billion dollars of debt over to the county. Disney said this outright and said the ball was...

              I'm pretty sure that was Ron Desantis posturing. Since right of the gates it would end up moving over a billion dollars of debt over to the county. Disney said this outright and said the ball was in the state's court, I've heard nothing since.

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            3. vord
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              I'd offer this link as a good starting point for the problematic nature of Disney's films.

              I'd offer this link as a good starting point for the problematic nature of Disney's films.

              1 vote
    2. Hidegger
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      Negasonic Teenage Warhead and Yukio in Deadpool 2 is the only main one coming to mind that actually gets depicted in the series. I'm sure there are a handful of Bi or Pansexual characters, but...

      Negasonic Teenage Warhead and Yukio in Deadpool 2 is the only main one coming to mind that actually gets depicted in the series. I'm sure there are a handful of Bi or Pansexual characters, but considering it's a super hero action film series and not a romcom drama focusing on everyone's sexual preferences it wouldn't make sense to spell out what every character's fictional preference is.

      3 votes