The Dark Knight was the last DC film I truly enjoyed. WB should have thrown money at Nolan and Bale until they agreed to build the Justice League off the Nolanverse.
The Dark Knight was the last DC film I truly enjoyed.
WB should have thrown money at Nolan and Bale until they agreed to build the Justice League off the Nolanverse.
There's no way either of them would be interested in that regardless of how much they were offered. Both of them like pushing their limits in the name of doing something interesting in filmmaking,...
There's no way either of them would be interested in that regardless of how much they were offered.
Both of them like pushing their limits in the name of doing something interesting in filmmaking, and franchise superhero movies are the opposite of that.
I'm not saying give Nolan creative control of the whole thing. I'm just saying get him to agree to more stories set in that world. Let Snyder do Man of Steel, but set it in the same universe. Have...
I'm not saying give Nolan creative control of the whole thing. I'm just saying get him to agree to more stories set in that world. Let Snyder do Man of Steel, but set it in the same universe. Have JGL be Batman for a movie before deciding to become Robin/Nightwing. And get Bale to come back as Batman when there's the inevitable team up to form the Justice League.
I didn't like rebooting Batman again, let alone forcing him into a life or death fight with Superman in the same film we have to get to know him in. And I never liked the "Batman vs Superman" argument. It comes across as a forced dick measuring contest. And then they throw in Wonder Woman on top of it and blow that reveal in the trailer? Could the execs make it more obvious that they're trying to play catch up with Marvel?
If they had been patient and given each character their own movie before forcing them all together, maybe I'd still be a DC fan today. But as it is now, I can't help but give a sigh of exasperation with news of each one.
I don't have the link on hand but I believe there was a quote from Nolan about how he didn't want it to be connected to a wider universe because he wanted the setting to feel like it could be the...
I don't have the link on hand but I believe there was a quote from Nolan about how he didn't want it to be connected to a wider universe because he wanted the setting to feel like it could be the "real world". As in he wanted everything that happened in the movie to be sort of plausible. At least that's what I remember! Maybe a lot more money would have changed his mind but I believe he only did those movies so he could do stuff like Inception and Interstellar.
I think Iron Man served Marvel as it's best jumping off point because everything in that movie felt real too. Then with each movie they added something more wild and out there, gods and monsters...
I think Iron Man served Marvel as it's best jumping off point because everything in that movie felt real too. Then with each movie they added something more wild and out there, gods and monsters and the like.
Nolan got his grounded, "real" world for three whole movies. From there it could have grown organically.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I do think in terms of directing styles, a Jon Favreau film is waaaaaaaaaay easier to build a universe out of and match tonally than it would be with...
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I do think in terms of directing styles, a Jon Favreau film is waaaaaaaaaay easier to build a universe out of and match tonally than it would be with Nolan's films.
Let's be honest here - look at what Nolan has done since. He's shown that he is very capable as a director (memento, the trilogy, Oppenheimer) but he especially shines when someone guided him...
Let's be honest here - look at what Nolan has done since. He's shown that he is very capable as a director (memento, the trilogy, Oppenheimer) but he especially shines when someone guided him towards a narrative (the prestige, the dark knight, most of interstellar). He's also shown that without some kind of well-placed guidance he can go from meandering (Inception, Tenet ) to nonsense (Dunkirk). Not to downplay those last ones (especially since he didn't really write them) but he's never really done a story that is wholly his own, and I'm not sure he could seeing as how the changes he's made to stories range from mild to non-existant. I'm still astounded by his ability (this man literally pumped out the Prestige in between the best batman films ever made. Personally I would call that the most impressive trilogy(batman returns, the prestige, the dark knight) ever made by any director, ever. Since then, evidence suggests that he needs someone else to help guide him. In the same way that Steven King has an amazing catalog but an editor could elevate him to god-like status or, even on the sillier side, people have been responsible for reeling in nut jobs like Peter Molyneux, James Cameron, or Luc Besson; if he doesn't try to develop his own story-based voice (look at his sound design) or try to break out from his own standards I'm worried he'll just become the next Tim Burton. (I'm sorry man but Tim Burton has a great voice but he's run that into the ground badly)
Just get the animated DC writers to write for the movies. Blows my mind they had several great shows and movies in animation and can't make it work because they "must" get someone else to take an...
Just get the animated DC writers to write for the movies. Blows my mind they had several great shows and movies in animation and can't make it work because they "must" get someone else to take an action script and dress it up in DC names and costumes.
I think I'm much happier with Nolan making what he wants. He's one of the few filmmakers with the clout to make big budget blockbusters not tied to some licensed IP.
I think I'm much happier with Nolan making what he wants. He's one of the few filmmakers with the clout to make big budget blockbusters not tied to some licensed IP.
This article encouraged me to read up about Aaron Swartz (I had heard the name, but could no remember no specifics). He was way more influential than I expected, with involvement in RSS and...
This article encouraged me to read up about Aaron Swartz (I had heard the name, but could no remember no specifics). He was way more influential than I expected, with involvement in RSS and Markdown. I admire his commitment to free information too. Tragic that he died so young.
Aaron really was one of the best of us. His website has a number of great write ups on it that i regularly share with people… like I’m about to do now -...
Exemplary
Aaron really was one of the best of us. His website has a number of great write ups on it that i regularly share with people… like I’m about to do now - http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/handwritingwall
The Dark Knight was the last DC film I truly enjoyed.
WB should have thrown money at Nolan and Bale until they agreed to build the Justice League off the Nolanverse.
There's no way either of them would be interested in that regardless of how much they were offered.
Both of them like pushing their limits in the name of doing something interesting in filmmaking, and franchise superhero movies are the opposite of that.
I'm not saying give Nolan creative control of the whole thing. I'm just saying get him to agree to more stories set in that world. Let Snyder do Man of Steel, but set it in the same universe. Have JGL be Batman for a movie before deciding to become Robin/Nightwing. And get Bale to come back as Batman when there's the inevitable team up to form the Justice League.
I didn't like rebooting Batman again, let alone forcing him into a life or death fight with Superman in the same film we have to get to know him in. And I never liked the "Batman vs Superman" argument. It comes across as a forced dick measuring contest. And then they throw in Wonder Woman on top of it and blow that reveal in the trailer? Could the execs make it more obvious that they're trying to play catch up with Marvel?
If they had been patient and given each character their own movie before forcing them all together, maybe I'd still be a DC fan today. But as it is now, I can't help but give a sigh of exasperation with news of each one.
I don't have the link on hand but I believe there was a quote from Nolan about how he didn't want it to be connected to a wider universe because he wanted the setting to feel like it could be the "real world". As in he wanted everything that happened in the movie to be sort of plausible. At least that's what I remember! Maybe a lot more money would have changed his mind but I believe he only did those movies so he could do stuff like Inception and Interstellar.
I think Iron Man served Marvel as it's best jumping off point because everything in that movie felt real too. Then with each movie they added something more wild and out there, gods and monsters and the like.
Nolan got his grounded, "real" world for three whole movies. From there it could have grown organically.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I do think in terms of directing styles, a Jon Favreau film is waaaaaaaaaay easier to build a universe out of and match tonally than it would be with Nolan's films.
Let's be honest here - look at what Nolan has done since. He's shown that he is very capable as a director (memento, the trilogy, Oppenheimer) but he especially shines when someone guided him towards a narrative (the prestige, the dark knight, most of interstellar). He's also shown that without some kind of well-placed guidance he can go from meandering (Inception, Tenet ) to nonsense (Dunkirk). Not to downplay those last ones (especially since he didn't really write them) but he's never really done a story that is wholly his own, and I'm not sure he could seeing as how the changes he's made to stories range from mild to non-existant. I'm still astounded by his ability (this man literally pumped out the Prestige in between the best batman films ever made. Personally I would call that the most impressive trilogy(batman returns, the prestige, the dark knight) ever made by any director, ever. Since then, evidence suggests that he needs someone else to help guide him. In the same way that Steven King has an amazing catalog but an editor could elevate him to god-like status or, even on the sillier side, people have been responsible for reeling in nut jobs like Peter Molyneux, James Cameron, or Luc Besson; if he doesn't try to develop his own story-based voice (look at his sound design) or try to break out from his own standards I'm worried he'll just become the next Tim Burton. (I'm sorry man but Tim Burton has a great voice but he's run that into the ground badly)
Just get the animated DC writers to write for the movies. Blows my mind they had several great shows and movies in animation and can't make it work because they "must" get someone else to take an action script and dress it up in DC names and costumes.
I think I'm much happier with Nolan making what he wants. He's one of the few filmmakers with the clout to make big budget blockbusters not tied to some licensed IP.
This article encouraged me to read up about Aaron Swartz (I had heard the name, but could no remember no specifics). He was way more influential than I expected, with involvement in RSS and Markdown. I admire his commitment to free information too. Tragic that he died so young.
Aaron really was one of the best of us. His website has a number of great write ups on it that i regularly share with people… like I’m about to do now - http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/handwritingwall
Note has nothing to do with film. :)