Charlie xcx is what makes me finally understand what old people were on about when they yelled about not getting the younger generations music. It is me, I’m now the old people. The aesthetic,...
Charlie xcx is what makes me finally understand what old people were on about when they yelled about not getting the younger generations music. It is me, I’m now the old people.
The aesthetic, flawless. I won’t deny that. Actually, the composition is pretty good too. I’ll give credit to that as well.
I just have a real hard time with the sound of auto tune artifact. How will this stuff age? It’s so stylized, you can’t really throw it into a “top hits” playlist and forget about it once that sound stops being trendy.
Then again, I still listen to boys in eyeliner scream-whining about their feelings on the regular. I’ll take my walker and put myself to bed now, thanks for letting me yell at the clouds for a moment.
Edit: y’all I am a hypocrite. I love bring me the horizon’s newest album POST HUMAN: NeX GEn and it has quite a bit of autotune artifact.
T-pain was using auto tune twenty years ago, which should be around the time that you were listening to the emo stuff
I just have a real hard time with the sound of auto tune artifact. How will this stuff age? It’s so stylized, you can’t really throw it into a “top hits” playlist and forget about it once that sound stops being trendy.
T-pain was using auto tune twenty years ago, which should be around the time that you were listening to the emo stuff
Ah yes T-pain. I believe Kanye also released an album with that sound as well, which AFAIK didn’t do as well with my age group- but a lot of the younger folks making music today cite that album...
Ah yes T-pain. I believe Kanye also released an album with that sound as well, which AFAIK didn’t do as well with my age group- but a lot of the younger folks making music today cite that album and T-pain as a heavy inspiration.
On the topic of T-pain, his tiny-desk concert without the autotune was so soooo good. I recognize that there is a lot of talent in some of the artists who use this style. I just prefer without. But of course, that’s just my opinion and that doesn’t make it superior to other folks who see it differently :)
If you're referring to Graduation and/or The College Dropout, both of those were well-received at the time. Perhaps it was just the circle you were in that didn't like them.
I believe Kanye also released an album with that sound as well, which AFAIK didn’t do as well with my age group
If you're referring to Graduation and/or The College Dropout, both of those were well-received at the time. Perhaps it was just the circle you were in that didn't like them.
He may have also meant 808s which I think was his first (and most ever) aggressively autotuned album. But like the ones you mentioned, it was very well received and I'd say much of modern...
He may have also meant 808s which I think was his first (and most ever) aggressively autotuned album. But like the ones you mentioned, it was very well received and I'd say much of modern rap/hiphop and even this posted song share many commonalities with that album.
P.S. I've decided it's almost time to start listening to Kanye again. Hoping I enjoy it for the art and can put the artist out of mind.
Even ignoring his meltdowns I don’t think any of Kanye’s music has been good since The Life of Pablo, which was around the time Kardashian divorced him.
Even ignoring his meltdowns I don’t think any of Kanye’s music has been good since The Life of Pablo, which was around the time Kardashian divorced him.
"Ye," the album after that, released in 2018, was pretty good. But that's the last album of his that I listened to. And I don't listen to him much anymore since he's gone off the deep end. And...
"Ye," the album after that, released in 2018, was pretty good. But that's the last album of his that I listened to. And I don't listen to him much anymore since he's gone off the deep end. And then some. Not really relevant, but I think they didn't get divorced until 2020-2022. "The Life of Pablo" -- which I loved -- was released in 2016.
But back to this song at hand. I've tried listen to Charli xcx before and couldn't get into her. But this one is pretty good. Thanks for posting!
You’re right. I remembered them getting divorced earlier but I just went through this gossip article and what I remember is that 2016 is the time Kanye started going off the deep end and his...
You’re right. I remembered them getting divorced earlier but I just went through this gossip article and what I remember is that 2016 is the time Kanye started going off the deep end and his relationship with her became strained.
As for XCX, I really liked her song Boom Clap which came out when I was in high school. But I didn’t really listen to her until last year with Brat.
As a former Kanye stan, I’m in the opposite place. I stopped publicly listening to or recommending his music after 2022 but I was allowing myself a private listen to one or two songs every once in...
P.S. I've decided it's almost time to start listening to Kanye again. Hoping I enjoy it for the art and can put the artist out of mind.
As a former Kanye stan, I’m in the opposite place. I stopped publicly listening to or recommending his music after 2022 but I was allowing myself a private listen to one or two songs every once in a while.
When he put out HH earlier this month, that was the nail in the coffin.
@TommyTentoes was correct, I was speaking of 808, but I am a she* 😘 That statement that I made was a sloppy regurgitation from what I have previously read from outside sources analyzing the...
@TommyTentoes was correct, I was speaking of 808, but I am a she* 😘
Critically the album divided the hip hop audience, as most of his elder fanbase could not connect to singing and autotune using Kanye. Although it did not resonate with his older fans, his younger fan base connected to the vulnerability shown by West in his songs.
808’s & Heartbreak would go on to create a new template for hip hop and pop culture that endures more than a decade later. In a 2013 interview with the New York Times, Kanye claimed that the album redefined the sound of radio. The album made waves.
Juice WRLD and Lil Uzi Vert would not be where they are today without that groundbreaking album.
In all fairness if I was going to recycle an opinion I could have worded it more eloquently.
Cher's 'Believe' came out in 1998 and is probably in a bunch of people's top hits playlists. It's a style that comes and goes but so does everything. Of course, that sound is not always autotune....
How will this stuff age? It’s so stylized, you can’t really throw it into a “top hits” playlist and forget about it once that sound stops being trendy.
Cher's 'Believe' came out in 1998 and is probably in a bunch of people's top hits playlists. It's a style that comes and goes but so does everything.
Of course, that sound is not always autotune. Caroline Polachek, who has worked with Charlie XCX quite a bit and is rightfully pretty influential in her own right, can somehow just sing like that (I highly recommend that Tiny Desk btw, it's absolutely "top hit" worthy)
Is California Love (1996) a joke to you people? haha :D And although not autotune, Peter Frampton used a talkbox like 50 years ago. I see it as a sort of spiritual predecessor. I see autotune the...
I see autotune the same way as I see pedals. It's just a tool that modulates the instrument, whether it's for pitch correction or artistic effect. I don't personally care if artists use autotune to sharpen their pitch, they're still creating music. I use spellcheck when I write papers, it's just another tool to make sure the product comes out the way you intend it to.
Ok, you make a FANTASTIC point with Cher. That Tiny Desk is pretty awesome, thank you for that too. I might actually try her out. I still don’t think I’ll ever really like Charlie’s music, but I...
Ok, you make a FANTASTIC point with Cher.
That Tiny Desk is pretty awesome, thank you for that too. I might actually try her out.
I still don’t think I’ll ever really like Charlie’s music, but I have a better appreciation for where it’s coming from now.
do you do drugs? If so, do some drugs and lay back and listen to BRAT with good headphones. I hate pop music, but this record is immaculate and the themes are fantastic. It isn't parody, but its...
do you do drugs? If so, do some drugs and lay back and listen to BRAT with good headphones. I hate pop music, but this record is immaculate and the themes are fantastic. It isn't parody, but its an absolutely self-aware record akin to Paris Hilton's first record. It doesnt take itself too seriously while, like I said, speaking to her state in the pop industry as a thirty year old.
Anyway, I thought it was going to be absolute trash, but it was getting so much great press, so I gave it a whirl. It later went to top most respectable year end lists. Also, Everything is Romantic was produced by El Guincho, who is one of my favorites, so it was another point for Charli.
Ultimately, give it a listen and open your mind :) Go in order, no skips, too.
i think i was on a gram of shrooms at the time — but whatever works :) as a side note. i pretty much only like this album from her. the other stuff isn’t for me.
i think i was on a gram of shrooms at the time — but whatever works :)
as a side note. i pretty much only like this album from her. the other stuff isn’t for me.
It sounds like you get it to some extent (good composition & aesthetic) . One thing to realize is that people in their early 20's have been listening to music they really like for what?, 5-6 years...
It sounds like you get it to some extent (good composition & aesthetic) . One thing to realize is that people in their early 20's have been listening to music they really like for what?, 5-6 years (starting from teenage years). So to them many things will sounds fresh and exciting, even though if you take a longer perspective on music history it's maybe not so fresh or exciting. That's what going on with all these waves of older "retro" styles coming back I think.
if you’re sensitive to flashing, the start of this is bad for about 30s. smart that she’s doing videos for older songs. BRAT is s a perfect record and i doubt she’ll ever top it.
if you’re sensitive to flashing, the start of this is bad for about 30s.
smart that she’s doing videos for older songs. BRAT is s a perfect record and i doubt she’ll ever top it.
Charlie xcx is what makes me finally understand what old people were on about when they yelled about not getting the younger generations music. It is me, I’m now the old people.
The aesthetic, flawless. I won’t deny that. Actually, the composition is pretty good too. I’ll give credit to that as well.
I just have a real hard time with the sound of auto tune artifact. How will this stuff age? It’s so stylized, you can’t really throw it into a “top hits” playlist and forget about it once that sound stops being trendy.
Then again, I still listen to boys in eyeliner scream-whining about their feelings on the regular. I’ll take my walker and put myself to bed now, thanks for letting me yell at the clouds for a moment.
Edit: y’all I am a hypocrite. I love bring me the horizon’s newest album POST HUMAN: NeX GEn and it has quite a bit of autotune artifact.
T-pain was using auto tune twenty years ago, which should be around the time that you were listening to the emo stuff
Ah yes T-pain. I believe Kanye also released an album with that sound as well, which AFAIK didn’t do as well with my age group- but a lot of the younger folks making music today cite that album and T-pain as a heavy inspiration.
On the topic of T-pain, his tiny-desk concert without the autotune was so soooo good. I recognize that there is a lot of talent in some of the artists who use this style. I just prefer without. But of course, that’s just my opinion and that doesn’t make it superior to other folks who see it differently :)
If you're referring to Graduation and/or The College Dropout, both of those were well-received at the time. Perhaps it was just the circle you were in that didn't like them.
He may have also meant 808s which I think was his first (and most ever) aggressively autotuned album. But like the ones you mentioned, it was very well received and I'd say much of modern rap/hiphop and even this posted song share many commonalities with that album.
P.S. I've decided it's almost time to start listening to Kanye again. Hoping I enjoy it for the art and can put the artist out of mind.
Even ignoring his meltdowns I don’t think any of Kanye’s music has been good since The Life of Pablo, which was around the time Kardashian divorced him.
"Ye," the album after that, released in 2018, was pretty good. But that's the last album of his that I listened to. And I don't listen to him much anymore since he's gone off the deep end. And then some. Not really relevant, but I think they didn't get divorced until 2020-2022. "The Life of Pablo" -- which I loved -- was released in 2016.
But back to this song at hand. I've tried listen to Charli xcx before and couldn't get into her. But this one is pretty good. Thanks for posting!
You’re right. I remembered them getting divorced earlier but I just went through this gossip article and what I remember is that 2016 is the time Kanye started going off the deep end and his relationship with her became strained.
As for XCX, I really liked her song Boom Clap which came out when I was in high school. But I didn’t really listen to her until last year with Brat.
As a former Kanye stan, I’m in the opposite place. I stopped publicly listening to or recommending his music after 2022 but I was allowing myself a private listen to one or two songs every once in a while.
When he put out HH earlier this month, that was the nail in the coffin.
Well that's certainly beyond redeemable. Hmmm maybe back to my original stance of waiting for him to die and then re-evaluating.
I keep praying for an intervention.
@TommyTentoes was correct, I was speaking of 808, but I am a she* 😘
That statement that I made was a sloppy regurgitation from what I have previously read from outside sources analyzing the cultural impact of album.
In all fairness if I was going to recycle an opinion I could have worded it more eloquently.
If you liked his Tiny Desk Concert try him at the Sun Rose, it's a fantastic session.
Cher's 'Believe' came out in 1998 and is probably in a bunch of people's top hits playlists. It's a style that comes and goes but so does everything.
Of course, that sound is not always autotune. Caroline Polachek, who has worked with Charlie XCX quite a bit and is rightfully pretty influential in her own right, can somehow just sing like that (I highly recommend that Tiny Desk btw, it's absolutely "top hit" worthy)
Is California Love (1996) a joke to you people? haha :D
And although not autotune, Peter Frampton used a talkbox like 50 years ago. I see it as a sort of spiritual predecessor.
I see autotune the same way as I see pedals. It's just a tool that modulates the instrument, whether it's for pitch correction or artistic effect. I don't personally care if artists use autotune to sharpen their pitch, they're still creating music. I use spellcheck when I write papers, it's just another tool to make sure the product comes out the way you intend it to.
Ok, you make a FANTASTIC point with Cher.
That Tiny Desk is pretty awesome, thank you for that too. I might actually try her out.
I still don’t think I’ll ever really like Charlie’s music, but I have a better appreciation for where it’s coming from now.
The Caroline Polachek video was great, thanks for sharing.
do you do drugs? If so, do some drugs and lay back and listen to BRAT with good headphones. I hate pop music, but this record is immaculate and the themes are fantastic. It isn't parody, but its an absolutely self-aware record akin to Paris Hilton's first record. It doesnt take itself too seriously while, like I said, speaking to her state in the pop industry as a thirty year old.
Anyway, I thought it was going to be absolute trash, but it was getting so much great press, so I gave it a whirl. It later went to top most respectable year end lists. Also, Everything is Romantic was produced by El Guincho, who is one of my favorites, so it was another point for Charli.
Ultimately, give it a listen and open your mind :) Go in order, no skips, too.
lmaooooo ok, 😂 uppers or downers? I’ll give it a swing in your honor
i think i was on a gram of shrooms at the time — but whatever works :)
as a side note. i pretty much only like this album from her. the other stuff isn’t for me.
It sounds like you get it to some extent (good composition & aesthetic) . One thing to realize is that people in their early 20's have been listening to music they really like for what?, 5-6 years (starting from teenage years). So to them many things will sounds fresh and exciting, even though if you take a longer perspective on music history it's maybe not so fresh or exciting. That's what going on with all these waves of older "retro" styles coming back I think.
if you’re sensitive to flashing, the start of this is bad for about 30s.
smart that she’s doing videos for older songs. BRAT is s a perfect record and i doubt she’ll ever top it.