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Megathread for news/updates/discussion of Russian invasion of Ukraine - April 15-17
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Once again, apologies for not posting here more often. My mental health had severely suffered and this break from wrapping up the news is doing a lot of good.
There isn't that much interesting happening from day to day at the moment, anyway. You may have heard about Russians using or thinking about using chemical weapons and NATO being concerned, but truthfully, they already had done that earlier in the war.
There are definitely tensions rising between Russia and NATO, which is concerning. Within one month, we might be able to see more clearly, as Russia has so much riding on the first 2 weeks of May as the "end of the war".
Russia probably managed to avoid the worst of the worst for themselves for now, but they're still in an extremely bad spot. They will not have the stamina for a longer war. Their "refocusing" on the border cities only serves to make it look a bit better in terms of "victories", but … king of the ashes, you get me? Zelenskyy said it himself yesterday: 95% of Mariupol is just gone. Destroyed.
People are going back to Kyiv. I think it's a bit optimistic, but I would never stand in the way of pushing that optimism forward. Even Anna (the sister) talked about it, but she's being a bit more realistic… there is nothing waiting for her there at the moment, beyond rubble. Here at least, she has her sister, and I'm currently helping her study programming, she wants to convert into IT and start with frontend development.
I feel bad not having more to write about right now. In fact, there's a LOT out there, and I'm still sifting through tons every day. So instead let me ask you, Tildinistas: What do you want to know or talk about today? Let this be an AMA.
As much as I love your summaries, your mental health should always come first.
For one's information, the reason Russia is pushing for some sort of a victory early in May is for something to coincide with the Victory Day of May 9th. It's been celebrated here for decades as if WW2 had only happened last year.
Being able to wrap the "denazification" operation to the previous (legitimate) victory over fascism would do great things for Putin's PR. Or at least, that's the hope.
We're already seeing massive spikes in prices of ordinary items, like milk and porridges (wheat, buckwheat, rice etc.): up to 30% over just a few weeks. Telecoms are warning about cutting off unlimited mobile Internet access for all users in the near future. Stuff either gets oddly expensive or disappears from the shelves.
I think most people in Russia have a vague idea of what's happening, but there's no way to pry that out of them. Suppose they tell the wrong person: they could very well end up badly beaten in a police precinct, or charged with "defamation of the Russian armed forces" (which is anything remotely protestative of the war efforts), which could mean years in prison on what is essentially false charges.
So, you end up with the notion that damn near everyone in Russia supports the war and the carnage.
Even if I'm right about this, though, there's no way Putin and his cronies would relax the laws to allow for a little more freedom of expression. You won't see a sudden outburst of criticism, of cries of mothers of the dead Russian soldiers, of calls to change the political system so that it would never happen again.
So, it may end up looking from the outside like people are generally supportive of the "victory" that Putin plans to present on May 9.
If I may offer this excerpt from They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933—45:
In case you wanted to know why Russia is today the way it is. This particular Rome was not built in a day. The nazification of the Russian society – or, specifically, the Russian kind of fatalist nationalism – came into broad daylight rather abruptly and very recently, ever since Putin'd started to campaign for the amendment of the Constitution, but the bearing of the "Russia strong" flag began long before that.
Related interview with Greg Yudin, professor of political philosophy at the Moscow School of Social and Economic Sciences, that provides even more perspective, and mirrors a lot of the same sentiment:
‘Russia Is Completely Depoliticized’ A sociologist from Moscow explains how the nation learned to deny reality. (Intelligencer - NYMag)
p.s. I don't want to quote parts of the article like I normally do, since the whole thing is worth reading, IMO.
More about naval mines:
Ukraine accuses Russia of releasing naval mines to hamper shipping (Washington Post)
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Ukraine is scanning faces of dead Russians, then contacting the mothers
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Russian disinformation campaign includes doctored images of CAF members on front lines in Ukraine: CSE
p.s. CSE = Communications Security Establishment = "the Government of Canada's national cryptologic agency. It is responsible for foreign signals intelligence (SIGINT) and communications security (COMSEC)"
I guess it's the more believable proxy version of America? If US soldiers were in Donbas than surely everyone would know that WW3 began. I suppose Canada is more believable in terms of not immediately escalating into WW3? Not really sure that makes that much sense either.
Eh... Canadian soldiers have done some despicable shit in the past too. E.g. The Somalia affair, which actually led to the disbanding of the entire Canadian Airborne Regiment by Chrétien. But thankfully that kind of horrific conduct has been relatively rare.
Yeah, I agree. Despite their occasional missteps (e.g. the recent sexual misconduct scandals), I am still proud of the CAF's role as an overall force for good in the world, and a proud Canadian. But I think it's still worth pointing out the few times where that hasn't been the case, since admitting our past mistakes and learning from them is important.
EU closes loophole allowing multimillion-euro arms sales to Russia (Reuters)
Am I missing something or is this pure insanity? Eu made weapons sold to Russia, Russian made weapons sold to EU, each sent back and forth for repairs? What is wrong with us? I get Ukraine using russian weapons, that makes sense. But Eu and nato?
Eastern European countries used to be part of the Soviet Bloc. Whatever weapons they made or bought back then would have been traded with other countries in the Soviet Bloc. So they have that legacy, much like Ukraine. I assume those are older weapons, but often they are upgraded.
Do people in Donbas want to be ‘liberated’ by Russia? (WaPo)
Not looking good in Mariupol. About 2.5 - 3k fighters left in the pocket, as far as we know. Moscow has given a deadline for surrender which passed. Apparently that ultimatum was of the form 'surrender now and you will be spared.' - after that, quote: “All those who will continue resistance will be destroyed,” - basically, a pretext for a war crime. 'After today, gloves are off and we will not take any prisoners. I mean, gloves were off before, but now we have a pretext too, which is cool.' So that's a thing now.
Zelenskiy said if the Mariupol fighters are eliminated, that'd end negotiations.
Mariupol was predicted to fall "any day now" for about 40 days now. Considering the locations still occupied by the UA troops, I don't expect any civilians to still be in the pocket(s). I wonder how longer they will last. Considering they are still talking about it, I suspect Russia is not in a position to easily collapse the pocket. If they were, they wouldn't pose ultimatums like this. They're talking because collapsing the pocket is still tied to heavy Russian casualties.
I also wonder how the UA supply situation looks like in the pocket. On the one hand, they had weeks and weeks to move supplies from all of the city area to their base areas and fallback points. From what's known about Azovstal, that one makes for a very obvious stronghold, so maybe they started stockpiling cans of beans and ammo weeks ago, in which case they're in the clear. Or they stockpiled elsewhere and those stockpiles were taken. Or they didn't manage to build a substantial stockpile and are running on fumes now.
I've read somewhere in my Ukraine feed that the Mariupol fighters feel abandoned by their government because there's no longer even any communication happening. It's so far down I can't expect to find the source now.
Simon Shuster, a reporter for TIME, tweeted this recently:
According to Nika, a Ukrainian independent reporter with writings for The Atlantic and The New York Times, among others, Russia is planning on bombing AzovStal, where about a thousands civilians also hide.
I’m wondering about the war crime part. If soldiers decide to fight to the end and are killed in battle, is that a war crime?
No. But if they surrender and you shoot them anyway, that definitely counts. My point above is Russia basically said that they won't accept any surrenders anymore. If UA forces keep fighting, that's fine. If they eventually surrender, then it's a war crime.
ETA: There are however morale concerns at play here, and I think Russia is bluffing. You generally want to accept surrenders if you can at all afford it. Imagine what a combination of Mariupol and Bucha will do to Ukrainian morale: You're not safe if you don't fight (as a civilian). You're not safe if you fight and eventually surrender. Your best bet is to fight and never surrender. With how the "morale battle" is going, Russia can't want that.
Update on the French Gendarmerie forensic investigations unit sent to Ukraine, they have arrived at Bucha:
War in Ukraine: French police officers probe Bucha mass grave (France24 Video)