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Daily thread for news/updates/discussion of George Floyd protests - June 11
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Pelosi: Police unions want to be part of reform conversation
Really now? Can't possibly see how this is a conflict of interest.
Yeah, it's pretty clear from all the various police union responses over the last week (e.g. openly cheering officers arrested for assaulting civilians, resigning en masse in solidarity with those officers, to even now claiming officers kneeling with the protestors is "essentially an act of treason"), that they are a huge part of the problem.
Pelosi is a fucking idiot if she brings the unions to the table here, as it's virtually guaranteed they will do everything in their power to undermine any legitimate efforts at reform and prevent productive changes. And if she does, this might turn into yet another case of Democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
This, and other things like this, despite so many other differences between parties, is why 'both sides are the same' is a powerful and not entirely untrue rally.
By enabling the abusers to have a vote in the reforms to stop abuse, Pelosi is demonstrating that Democrats are often a lesser of two evils and not a true agent of reform and progress.
From what I've seen, Democrats will often just maintain the status quo unless facing substantial public outrage. This is infinitely preferable to the Republican stance of 'let's make things worse,' but that combo doesn't exactly make for fixing problems faster than Republicans create them.
They don't get a vote, they just get to make their argument. How much influence that will have on House Democrats is unclear.
It's also unclear that this amounts to anything at all. A bill that only the House likes is just a symbolic gesture. A previous House voted 50 or so times to repeal Obamacare and it didn't matter.
Winning the Senate and Presidency in November, plus more protests next year to hold them to it, would be another story. Both are necessary. Until then it seems like all the action will be at the state and local level.
Kind of an offbeat one, but still interesting and worth noting:
Lady Antebellum Are Changing Their Band Name To Get Rid Of Its Slavery Connotations
Seattle PD engages in disinformation campaign about autonomous zone.
Thread of pictures from the autonomous zone
[Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff] apologizes for appearing in photo-op with Trump after forceful removal of protesters
This woman 'died three times' after Seattle Police hit her with a blast ball
News story about the attempted murder of a protester by police that I commented about in a previous daily thread.
Federal Arrests Show No Sign that Antifa Plotted Protests
Punisher co-creator designs skulls for BLM (as a bonus says trans rights).
Fraternal Order of Police: Chicago officers who kneel with protesters could be kicked out of police union
G.O.P. Platform, Rolled Over From 2016, Condemns the ‘Current President’
Can you guess how divided backs and whites are on race in the US?
A more whimsical jeopardy-type quiz for this whole thing.
Atlanta Police officer charged in tasing of college students was named in prior excessive force lawsuit
How do black Americans see their racial identity?
A thread on the history of Camden PD
What the world could teach America about policing
"For the 59841st time something considered unthinkable in America is normal in Western Europe." But more seriously though:
Residents of CHAZ respond to the President
How does the police see policing?
It's almost comedic:
Well, this thread has gone off the rails, so... let's just take a break until tomorrow's gets posted in about 6 hours.