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Lithium removal with household water purification devices

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  1. skybrian
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    It's probably not a question you wanted answered, but a fun study nonetheless.

    It's probably not a question you wanted answered, but a fun study nonetheless.

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    vord
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    Huh. Turns out the nutjobs paranoid about Flouride in the water probably should have been questioning the unregulated Lithium. I would be shocked if Lithium wasn't the cause of the obesity crisis...

    Huh. Turns out the nutjobs paranoid about Flouride in the water probably should have been questioning the unregulated Lithium.

    I would be shocked if Lithium wasn't the cause of the obesity crisis if the numbers they are reporting are true. The list of side effects of Lithium us quite long

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    1. post_below
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      In fairness to nutjobs... though the conspiracy theories about water fluoridation are far fetched, being concerned about consuming most elements in higher quantities than humans did historically...

      In fairness to nutjobs... though the conspiracy theories about water fluoridation are far fetched, being concerned about consuming most elements in higher quantities than humans did historically is completely reasonable.

      In the case of fluoride, there are established health risks, the only debate is about how much is too much. As a result the PPM guidelines have been revisited and lowered.

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      norney
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      'Contribution' maybe but 'cause' might be a bit of a stretch, given there's no comparison with lithium consumption in other countries, whereas there are good comparisons of sugar and fat intakes...

      'Contribution' maybe but 'cause' might be a bit of a stretch, given there's no comparison with lithium consumption in other countries, whereas there are good comparisons of sugar and fat intakes and activity levels.

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        vord
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        Having been on many different psychiatric meds, including lithium, you might have the cause/effect reversed...especially if it comes out that USA levels are higher. There are three...

        Having been on many different psychiatric meds, including lithium, you might have the cause/effect reversed...especially if it comes out that USA levels are higher.

        There are three almost-constants across the board when it comes to psychiatric medication side effects:

        • They interfere with your body's ability to say "I'm full" after eating. You'll be noshy almost all the time. Hence eating a lot more sugar.
        • Especially the downers (anti-manic, anti-psychotics), they sap motivation in a way that massive depression cycles can. Exacerbating activity level problems.
        • Especially antidepressants, can cause suicidal tendencies in otherwise nonsuicidal people.

        High lithium in water makes a lot of sense, given that the obesity crisis and mental health crisis have been trending upwards in a way a lot of other metrics have not.

        1. cfabbro
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          AFAIK, the notion that antidepressants can cause or exacerbate suicidal ideation/behavior is largely considered outdated, since even 30 years after concerns of that first arose in the 1990s, it's...

          AFAIK, the notion that antidepressants can cause or exacerbate suicidal ideation/behavior is largely considered outdated, since even 30 years after concerns of that first arose in the 1990s, it's still not been backed up by any conclusive evidence. And every large scale cohort study I have read on the subject in the last few decades has not been able to find any indication of increased suicidal ideation/behavior associated with ADs (even SSRIs, which were the primary suspect 30 years ago). And in fact most studies strongly suggest the opposite, that ADs (even SSRIs) significantly decrease the risk of suicide so long as proper clinical procedures are followed when prescribing them. So you may want to update your pharmacology knowledge before you start drawing any conclusions here.

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    moocow1452
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    Could lithium in water contribute to the same lithium that is used in batteries, or is it not that kind of lithium? Would be a bit of a silver lining if we didn't have to mine as much and let the...

    Could lithium in water contribute to the same lithium that is used in batteries, or is it not that kind of lithium? Would be a bit of a silver lining if we didn't have to mine as much and let the precious mineral come to us.

    1. skybrian
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      They are measuring very small amounts (micrograms per liter), not anything commercially useful.

      They are measuring very small amounts (micrograms per liter), not anything commercially useful.

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