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The reshuffling of neurons during fruit fly metamorphosis suggests that larval memories don’t persist in adults
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- Insect Brains Melt and Rewire During Metamorphosis | Quanta Magazine
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- Jul 26 2023
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- 1445 words
That’s new to me anyway. I dug around for more info on the development of metamorphosis and found this
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/insect-metamorphosis-evolution/
In a nutshell, the evolution of insect metamorphosis is believed to have arisen around 280-300 million years ago, with some insects hatching in larval forms different from their adult selves. This transition proved advantageous, leading to the successful development of complete metamorphosis found in many insects today. Complete metamorphosis likely evolved from incomplete metamorphosis, where a pro-nymphal stage transformed into the larval stage. This process has been a highly effective reproductive strategy, reducing competition between young and adult insects and contributing to the success of metamorphosing insect species on Earth.
wonder if that would be the same for caterpillars?
From the article:
Despite the headline, the article is not really about fruit flies, per se. It's also about metamorphosis in general, and the new way the scientists developed to track neuron rearrangement during metamorphosis using genetic engineering (to cause specific neurons to fluoresce), which might eventually be able to be used to study other species metamorphosis as well.
This is really interesting. Fruit flies are pretty simple insects, but compare that to caterpillars that mostly turn into mush in their cocoon and their bodies reassemble into a moth or butterfly. It might be that some of their nervous system is retained (full publication link) and, while not conclusively proven, it would allow some of their memories or preferences/associations to persist into their adult stage (correcting the fruit fly article implying that adult and larval stage caterpillar behaviors are wholly different).
It's really cool that we have the technology to follow the rewiring of neurons, even in a simple insect like a fruit fly. Since metamorphosis and multi-stage life cycles are such a common feature of insects and marine invertebrates I hope we can learn more about how they work.
I can imagine sci-fi authors having fun with the knowledge this brings. Like in a distant future sending hardened, radiation-resistant, bio-engineered invertebrates to other planets where during their larval stage they survey the planet's atmosphere and biologic chemical composition and then metamorphose, reconstituting their bodies into the perfect vessel to pollinate local floral or create symbiotic or predatory relationships with the organisms there in preparation for human colonization.
Or even bio-engineering humans themselves to metamorphose in order to allow us to survive on hostile plants.
Surely someone has written a story about that already though. A quick scan of TV Tropes Metamorphosis entry doesn't show anything like that... the closest seems to be Ray Bradbury's Chrysalis, but that's just about a man exposed to radiation who mutates on Earth. But maybe @Algernon_Asimov knows of some scifi classics with that plot point? ;)
Edit: Planet of the Damned, by Harry Harrison is even closer but still not quite it:
Isaac Asimov's "Does a Bee Care?" too.
For a hot minute, I moderated a tiny niche subreddit called /r/AskSciFiHistorians (as in "ask historians of science fiction about the history of sci-fi"). Have I become the analogue of that subreddit here on Tildes, to be summoned on your whim? :P
Regarding @ChingShih's speculation about science-fictional species that undergo metamorphosis, my first thought was the species of Ploorans in E.E. "Doc" Smith's Lensman series. There's a plot point that various good guys occasionally detect the mental signature of a species that appears to be the next level up in the hierarchy of the bad guys (possibly the top-tier bad guys themselves), but each good guy who detects this mental signature "sees" an entirely different species, so they don't connect the dots until it's almost too late. The planet Ploor orbits around a strongly variable star, with conditions on the planet ranging from furnace to freezer. Therefore the Ploorans' physical form goes through extreme metmorphoses to cope with each set of seasonal conditions. (At one point they become interdimensional! The science in Smith's space operas wasn't always the best.)
There's a species in Larry Niven's Known Space universe known as the Pak. Humans are a devolved form of the Pak. In their original form, the Pak go through three stages of life: Child, Breeder, and Protector. The Child and Breeder forms of the Pak are basically human children and human adults. However, on the Pak homeworld, a middle-aged Pak enters a stage where they must eat a fruit from a plant called Tree-Of-Life. This fruit causes a metamorphosis in the Pak Breeder to turn it into a Protector: its skin thickens and dries, its joints swell up, its teeth fall out and are replaced by a bony ridge, etc. (Niven says the Pak Protector form was inspired by imagining if the human aging process was supposed to be beneficial, rather than detrimental.) Basically, the Protector becomes the ultimate fighting machine to protect the Children and Breeders.
And then, of course, there are the aliens in Asimov's novel 'The Gods Themselves'. The juvenile forms, known as Soft Ones, are wispy, thin, flimsy bodies that can merge with each other in triplets: the aliens have three sexes, rather than two. In this merging, three bodies literally become one, and the juveniles retain no memory of what happens during each merge. Initially, the juveniles do this for fun, and each merge is only temporary. However, this is a precursor to the final permanent merge which results in a metamorphosis into a final adult solid form, known as Hard Ones, comprised of all three juvenile bodies, but ultimately its own person. It is implied (but not confirmed) that the adult form does not remember what its precursor juveniles remember - as per the article linked above.
As regards bio-engineered humans, that's practically a trope in science-fiction. Genetically engineered humans are everywhere. Greg Bear's 'Eon'. Kim Stanley Robinson's 'Blue Mars'. The movie 'Gattaca'. Star Trek's character Khan Noonien Singh. And so on.
I just wanted to give you an opportunity to show off your vast knowledge of scifi lore for all of Tildes to see. ;) Thanks for the interesting and informative reply!
p.s. I'm ashamed to admit I have never read any Larry Niven, even though Ringworld has been on my reading list forever now... so I am going to have to remedy that.
You're welcome.
If you're going to read 'Ringworld', don't expect to encounter any Pak. Niven wrote a whole range of stories in his Known Space universe, with 'Ringworld' merely being the most famous. There are no Pak in 'Ringworld'. But it's a great read! (And I've just realised I seem to have misplaced my copy...)
There's eventually a Pak in one of the sequels, so there's that!
There probably is. However, I've heard the saying that each Ringworld sequel is half as good as its predecessor, and that aligns with my memory of those books. I would re-read 'Ringworld', but probably not 'The Ringworld Throne', and definitely not 'The Ringworld Engineers'.
If someone wants to read about the Pak, they might be better off with the novel 'Protector', rather than one of the Ringworld books.
This is a great reply. I've bookmarked it so I know what books to read next.
This article (link at bottom) was published in Nature a couple months ago, about the physical structure of the brain possibly determining how brain activity occurs. It is interesting but dense, and I don't have the expertise to fully understand it. But from what I gathered, it might fundamentally change the way we process and analyze brain activity data.
It got me thinking about metamorphosis and consciousness in general. If a brain was originally constructed based on DNA instructions, disassembled in chrysalis, then reconstructed in the butterfly, common brain shape structures could essentially be recreating the same conditions and "retain" certain memories.
Link to Nature article