This reads much like the Harlem Globetrotters, but for baseball. I wonder if there's really enough room for more than a few acts like this in any given sport.
This reads much like the Harlem Globetrotters, but for baseball. I wonder if there's really enough room for more than a few acts like this in any given sport.
That was my exact thought but the article reads like the Yankees will be putting on a show next month as well. The Globetrotters are a spectacle but are in no way the 'future' of basketball.
That was my exact thought but the article reads like the Yankees will be putting on a show next month as well. The Globetrotters are a spectacle but are in no way the 'future' of basketball.
Spot on. It's an interesting novelty, but it's not going supplant normal sports leagues any time soon. Maybe sports like baseball might be more susceptible to this kind of thing, but I wouldn't...
Spot on. It's an interesting novelty, but it's not going supplant normal sports leagues any time soon. Maybe sports like baseball might be more susceptible to this kind of thing, but I wouldn't bet on it.
It would be fun to see in something like hockey. Backflips on the ice anyone?
+1 for "sports entertainment" hockey... I think that would be really entertaining. I got a flashback though to the time I was working in Montreal and one day I hurt my leg and the next morning my...
+1 for "sports entertainment" hockey... I think that would be really entertaining.
I got a flashback though to the time I was working in Montreal and one day I hurt my leg and the next morning my flight got canceled so I would up spending the next day laying in bed at the Marriott at the airport watching TV in an overstuffed bed.
I caught a women's pro wrestling match where the performers were trying hard but the audience did. not. care. Parents were arguing with their kids over junk food. People were looking at their phones. Other people walking up the steps and out. They just weren't feeling the love.
I have been going to as many home games for teams at my Uni as I can lately and one thing I really appreciate it is when the away team brings a dedicated and excited contingent of fans, it makes me feel like I really have to whoop it up for our home team. It's that feeling of excitement and engagement that is really going to bring people in.
Exactly. I saw the Globetrotters when they came to Binghamton in the same arena where I rode on an elephant at the Shrine Circus! Personally I have concerns about the legitimacy of basketball...
Exactly. I saw the Globetrotters when they came to Binghamton in the same arena where I rode on an elephant at the Shrine Circus!
Personally I have concerns about the legitimacy of basketball given a history of point shaving and betting scandals. I played a lot of pickup basketball in college with somebody who bombed out of college ball and one impression I got was that it's a really important skill to foul people without getting called by the ref.
Regarding your last point, that unfortunately isn't limited to basketball. "Selling" fouls is a thing in every competitive sport, and sometimes you'll see rules against "embellishment." Getting...
Regarding your last point, that unfortunately isn't limited to basketball. "Selling" fouls is a thing in every competitive sport, and sometimes you'll see rules against "embellishment." Getting away with as much as possible, and makong sure your opponent does not.
Part of what made Aaron Rodgers so good at football (American) was his awareness of the rules and ability to play them in his favor. Not exactly the spirit of the game, but top athletes all function with a "win at all costs" mentality.
I like "if a fan in the crowd catches a foul ball, it counts as an out" but I wonder if this a baseball problem (e.g. people losing interest) I have a project of doing photography of every sport...
I like "if a fan in the crowd catches a foul ball, it counts as an out" but I wonder if this a baseball problem (e.g. people losing interest)
I have a project of doing photography of every sport my university participates in: when I tell my wife or son I went to a field hockey or a sprint football game and had a great time they believe me and will often come to a game with me later. I can't get anybody in my family to take an interest in baseball though!
Yes this is a baseball issue. Every sport faces issues/adaptation, like NBA is in danger of losing interest in the regular season. Baseball management has been complacent and become a localized...
Yes this is a baseball issue. Every sport faces issues/adaptation, like NBA is in danger of losing interest in the regular season. Baseball management has been complacent and become a localized sport (ie. they mainly make money from ticket sales and local tv). I live in one of the 3 largest baseball markets in the country and have maybe 3 people who follow the team closely out of around a hundred friends, family, coworkers. And even then, closely means they follow news not watch the team regularly.
The NFL first preseason game (aka the hall of fame game) outdraws the entire MLB finals games combined. In what should be one of the largest markets in the league, the owners do not have the team in a position to try to win and it is not possible to watch the games on some streaming apps like YoutubeTV. Overall the sport will continue to exist but in terms of regaining past glory it seems like it’s beyond possible from my perspective. In a town where it was the #1 sport when I was a kid, it is now #4 and closer to the MLS team than anything else. And from my anecdotal experience, the sport seems essentially dead at a fan level in my area for the entire 40 and under demo.
Yeah, competition from soccer is for real. I had a fight with my RSS reader in the spring over whether I liked articles about Premier League football and my RSS reader won. I got a Peacock...
Yeah, competition from soccer is for real. I had a fight with my RSS reader in the spring over whether I liked articles about Premier League football and my RSS reader won. I got a Peacock subscription so I could watch more games. I hear MLS is catching up but enough Americans and other foreigners are into the Premier League that there's some fear those teams will be distracted from serving their existing fans.
Premier League and F1 probably do beat MLB and MLS and everything else below that easily in my market. I just used MLS because in terms of the annual TV ratings and market research it is locality...
Premier League and F1 probably do beat MLB and MLS and everything else below that easily in my market. I just used MLS because in terms of the annual TV ratings and market research it is locality specific so only lists the local teams (NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, MLS ranked in that order). At least for the ones I look at.
This reads much like the Harlem Globetrotters, but for baseball. I wonder if there's really enough room for more than a few acts like this in any given sport.
That was my exact thought but the article reads like the Yankees will be putting on a show next month as well. The Globetrotters are a spectacle but are in no way the 'future' of basketball.
Spot on. It's an interesting novelty, but it's not going supplant normal sports leagues any time soon. Maybe sports like baseball might be more susceptible to this kind of thing, but I wouldn't bet on it.
It would be fun to see in something like hockey. Backflips on the ice anyone?
+1 for "sports entertainment" hockey... I think that would be really entertaining.
I got a flashback though to the time I was working in Montreal and one day I hurt my leg and the next morning my flight got canceled so I would up spending the next day laying in bed at the Marriott at the airport watching TV in an overstuffed bed.
I caught a women's pro wrestling match where the performers were trying hard but the audience did. not. care. Parents were arguing with their kids over junk food. People were looking at their phones. Other people walking up the steps and out. They just weren't feeling the love.
I have been going to as many home games for teams at my Uni as I can lately and one thing I really appreciate it is when the away team brings a dedicated and excited contingent of fans, it makes me feel like I really have to whoop it up for our home team. It's that feeling of excitement and engagement that is really going to bring people in.
Isn't that just icecapades with pucks? Be fun to see how they use the sticks when they're building the human pyramid.
Exactly. I saw the Globetrotters when they came to Binghamton in the same arena where I rode on an elephant at the Shrine Circus!
Personally I have concerns about the legitimacy of basketball given a history of point shaving and betting scandals. I played a lot of pickup basketball in college with somebody who bombed out of college ball and one impression I got was that it's a really important skill to foul people without getting called by the ref.
Regarding your last point, that unfortunately isn't limited to basketball. "Selling" fouls is a thing in every competitive sport, and sometimes you'll see rules against "embellishment." Getting away with as much as possible, and makong sure your opponent does not.
Part of what made Aaron Rodgers so good at football (American) was his awareness of the rules and ability to play them in his favor. Not exactly the spirit of the game, but top athletes all function with a "win at all costs" mentality.
I like "if a fan in the crowd catches a foul ball, it counts as an out" but I wonder if this a baseball problem (e.g. people losing interest)
I have a project of doing photography of every sport my university participates in: when I tell my wife or son I went to a field hockey or a sprint football game and had a great time they believe me and will often come to a game with me later. I can't get anybody in my family to take an interest in baseball though!
Yes this is a baseball issue. Every sport faces issues/adaptation, like NBA is in danger of losing interest in the regular season. Baseball management has been complacent and become a localized sport (ie. they mainly make money from ticket sales and local tv). I live in one of the 3 largest baseball markets in the country and have maybe 3 people who follow the team closely out of around a hundred friends, family, coworkers. And even then, closely means they follow news not watch the team regularly.
The NFL first preseason game (aka the hall of fame game) outdraws the entire MLB finals games combined. In what should be one of the largest markets in the league, the owners do not have the team in a position to try to win and it is not possible to watch the games on some streaming apps like YoutubeTV. Overall the sport will continue to exist but in terms of regaining past glory it seems like it’s beyond possible from my perspective. In a town where it was the #1 sport when I was a kid, it is now #4 and closer to the MLS team than anything else. And from my anecdotal experience, the sport seems essentially dead at a fan level in my area for the entire 40 and under demo.
Yeah, competition from soccer is for real. I had a fight with my RSS reader in the spring over whether I liked articles about Premier League football and my RSS reader won. I got a Peacock subscription so I could watch more games. I hear MLS is catching up but enough Americans and other foreigners are into the Premier League that there's some fear those teams will be distracted from serving their existing fans.
Premier League and F1 probably do beat MLB and MLS and everything else below that easily in my market. I just used MLS because in terms of the annual TV ratings and market research it is locality specific so only lists the local teams (NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, MLS ranked in that order). At least for the ones I look at.