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Predict the next five years in the US

How do you see the next 5 years playing out, politically, economically, socially, militarily? In areas that hit closest to you? I feel I'm not confident in making a forecast more specific than “nothing good will happen." And yet I have to make huge decisions about where to live and work.

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    moocow1452
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    Here's a non exhaustive list of events that are totally going to happen for reals, drawn from various sources and recollections: 2022 Robert Thorn publishes expose on how Soylent Corporation has...

    Here's a non exhaustive list of events that are totally going to happen for reals, drawn from various sources and recollections:

    2022

    • Robert Thorn publishes expose on how Soylent Corporation has been using deceased persons in their Soylent Green food product.

    2023

    • Avengers are able to undo the effects of The Snap, restoring life to the organisms effected.

    2024

    • Bell Riots occur, a key moment in human history where Gabriel Bell lead a group to capture the San Francisco Sanctuary Zone A, putting a spotlight on the conditions within.

    2025

    • Ben Richards' legendary run on "The Running Man" is aired, propelling the already popular show's notoriety to incredible new heights.

    2026

    • Workers revolution in the city of Metropolis nearly falls apart when it comes to light that a key figure was replaced by a robotic simulacrum.

    2027

    • First human born after 18 years of population wide infertility.
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    1. lou
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      Wonderful Deep Space Nine episode. Peak 90s.

      Bell Riots occur, a key moment in human history where Gabriel Bell lead a group to capture the San Francisco Sanctuary Zone A, putting a spotlight on the conditions within

      Wonderful Deep Space Nine episode. Peak 90s.

      6 votes
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    mtset
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    I suspect most places will become actively hostile to my openly queer, trans, poly family. Other than that I can't say.

    I suspect most places will become actively hostile to my openly queer, trans, poly family. Other than that I can't say.

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    1. FrankGrimes
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      I think the bright side is that while more square miles may be hostile, the majority of people you encounter throughout the country will not be.

      I think the bright side is that while more square miles may be hostile, the majority of people you encounter throughout the country will not be.

      6 votes
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    AnthonyB
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    I enjoy topics like this but it's so hard to predict how things will look five years from now given the fact that game-changers can pop up at any time. Imagine asking the question on Jan 1, 2004....

    I enjoy topics like this but it's so hard to predict how things will look five years from now given the fact that game-changers can pop up at any time. Imagine asking the question on Jan 1, 2004. How many people would accurately predict Obama, the iPhone, Facebook, or the housing market crash? Imagine asking that question in July of 2015 or on Jan 7, 2016. There was obviously a fascination with Trump, but few people seriously imagined he would win let alone kick off an era of absolute insanity, mishandle the response to a global pandemic so badly that hundreds of thousands of people died, or lead an insurrection. You can play this game with a thousand different things, both good and bad - 1984, 1996, 1992, 1939, 1960... it's a fun exercise.

    Gun to my head, I'd say the next five years look pretty bleak. BUT we never really know what's around the corner, so there is some hope in that.

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    1. lou
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      One thing which might be positive is that a lot of people in the US had a direct and practical education on what happens when you don't take your vaccines. In poorer countries people accept...

      One thing which might be positive is that a lot of people in the US had a direct and practical education on what happens when you don't take your vaccines. In poorer countries people accept vaccines more easily, because they actually remember when people used to die from preventable diseases.

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    2. deckof51
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      Broadly speaking, you're right, and it grants me a little hope to be reminded just how unpredictable great developments are. But at certain times--and especially from privileged vantages--it's...

      Broadly speaking, you're right, and it grants me a little hope to be reminded just how unpredictable great developments are. But at certain times--and especially from privileged vantages--it's possible to say, "This shit is going to blow up before too long." I worked for a company that in 2005 was quietly being gutted. When offices across the nation compared notes over an online forum, a pattern emerged that was sufficiently clear for even low-level workers to predict the manner of its demise. Sometimes the limb snaps, but takes some time to hit the forest floor. In 2005, I compared my employer against the nation's circumstances at the start of Cheney's second term and foresaw a widespread crash. In 2014, it was obvious that police murder of black citizens would precipitate enduring conflict, which would involve the military. And while I laughed when Trump rode that escalator into his candidacy, I cried hysterically when he took office, because the shape of the ensuing four years was just too easy to anticipate.

      Maybe the trouble with my reasoning is that these days its impossible to see the forest for the red flags wholly blocking the view.

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    HotPants
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    2022 Tech Stock Correction 2023 Massive Recession in housing, stocks 2024 Trump elected President. 2025 Trump removes Russian Sanctions 2026 Trump effectively ends Nato by withdrawing US support

    2022

    Tech Stock Correction

    2023

    Massive Recession in housing, stocks

    2024

    Trump elected President.

    2025

    Trump removes Russian Sanctions

    2026

    Trump effectively ends Nato by withdrawing US support

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    1. lou
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      I predict president Tucker Carlson instead. Which is probably worse.

      I predict president Tucker Carlson instead. Which is probably worse.

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      FlippantGod
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      Why do you think Trump would remove sanctions? That does not track with time in office. Like the opposite, as best I can recall. Edit: I think overall your response to the prompt is nice. Simple...

      Why do you think Trump would remove sanctions? That does not track with time in office. Like the opposite, as best I can recall.

      Edit: I think overall your response to the prompt is nice. Simple and clearly identifiable markers, one per year.

      1. HotPants
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        If I remember correctly, he asked for 'deliverables' to give Putin, he met with Putin without other officials, he failed to brief officials on the discussions he had with Putin, he is alleged to...

        If I remember correctly, he asked for 'deliverables' to give Putin, he met with Putin without other officials, he failed to brief officials on the discussions he had with Putin, he is alleged to owe Russians a lot of money, he said his personal finances were a red line that Mueller should not cross, and the sanctions imposed on Russia would have been imposed by Congress if he had not acted first.

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    lou
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    Not just US. The Metaverse and NFTs will become an embarrassing memory. VR will remain a very cool niche for an increasingly dedicated audience. Offline AAA games will be increasingly rare. One...

    Not just US.

    • The Metaverse and NFTs will become an embarrassing memory.
    • VR will remain a very cool niche for an increasingly dedicated audience.
    • Offline AAA games will be increasingly rare.
    • One large print newspaper will go online only.
    • Science fiction will become even more mainstream.
    • The Republican party will radicalize even further, and moderate conservatives will flock to the Democrats.
    • John Oliver's Last Week Tonight will either end it's run or accept it's not funny anymore and become a very progressive version of 60 Minutes.
    • At least one current or former member of The Daily Show will run for president.
    • The Oscars will have a "Social Media Award". The first win will be a 30 seconds Tik Tok video.
    • Martin Scorsese will make a movie in which Al Pacino, Robert de Niro, and Joe Pesci are teen-gangsters in the 1940s. Once again, everyone will pretend the CGI doesn't look like shit.

    Optimistic bonus: either NASA, SpaceX, NASA+SpaceX, or another NASA partnership will present very concrete plans (as opposed to the current highly aspirational plans) for putting the first human on Mars by 2040. Also, it would be super cool if it was a woman, since men where first on the Moon already.

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      AnthonyB
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      A few years ago, I listened to an interview with Trevor Noah where he talked about some of the advice that Jon Stewart gave him on his way out. There was one line that stood out, which essentially...

      John Oliver's Last Week Tonight will either end its run or accept it's not funny anymore and become a very progressive version of 60 Minutes.

      A few years ago, I listened to an interview with Trevor Noah where he talked about some of the advice that Jon Stewart gave him on his way out. There was one line that stood out, which essentially was about anger and frustration and the importance of not letting those feelings take over. John Oliver definitely hit the point where anger took over. I'm not sure when it happened exactly, but I noticed last year that his overall tone and demeanor had changed and I could sense the exasperation. It's hard enough to stay fresh after nine(!) seasons, but I think the routine coverage of the most frustrating elements of American systems, combined with the increasingly ridiculous shitshow that American politics have become, has taken its toll.

      6 votes
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      PhantomBand
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      Why?

      Science fiction will become even more mainstream.

      Why?

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      1. lou
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        As technology rapidly progresses, tradicional science fiction concepts which were previously considered too niche or too abstract enter the common vocabulary, and science fiction becomes more...

        As technology rapidly progresses, tradicional science fiction concepts which were previously considered too niche or too abstract enter the common vocabulary, and science fiction becomes more necessary to help understand the world we live in.

        Think of how terms like AI, VR, and metaverse entered popular discourse, for example.

        Edit: not to mention all the talk about Mars colonization and dystopic climate change...

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