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New Zealand Matrix fan film becomes oldest active torrent in the world

20 comments

  1. [9]
    rinnetensei
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    Torrenting is primarily associated with piracy, but this article shines a light on its use in distributing a low-budget fan film across the world with little to no cost. Nowadays this function...

    Torrenting is primarily associated with piracy, but this article shines a light on its use in distributing a low-budget fan film across the world with little to no cost. Nowadays this function would be served by the likes of YouTube, but it’s an interesting part of collaborative internet culture and history.

    32 votes
    1. [8]
      aetherious
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      There's also something to be said about the longevity of torrent as an archival medium. There are so many videos in my YouTube playlists that have been taken down (along with the very frustrating...

      There's also something to be said about the longevity of torrent as an archival medium. There are so many videos in my YouTube playlists that have been taken down (along with the very frustrating aspect of it that doesn't even mention the title of the video when it's gone). Accounts get suspended, lost - what happens when the original uploader's account is inactive and isn't transferred to someone else? Torrents, on the other hand, continue on as long as someone is seeding them.

      21 votes
      1. Pavouk106
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        Tell me about youtube videos taken down... There was a video called "The rela deal" portraying Space Shuttle launch. It was mixed video with differrent audio (maybe the same launch, maybe not, I...

        Tell me about youtube videos taken down... There was a video called "The rela deal" portraying Space Shuttle launch. It was mixed video with differrent audio (maybe the same launch, maybe not, I don't remember). It was a great view with window panes shaking sound, I loved watching it here and there.

        Yet after several years it vanished. I don't know why. Probably copyright either of the video (which probably was NASA, which I believe gives their videos out/use kind if copyleft licensing) or the aufio track (whih could have been taken by some concrete person who didn't want somebody else to use it on that video).

        I wonder when they'll take down similar video of Saturn V launch called "Beast mode one" (or similar).

        2 votes
      2. [6]
        hamstergeddon
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        I’ve started archiving YouTube videos I really like with youtube-dl for this reason. Every once in a while I’ll go through my liked videos and just download them. One of these days I’d like to...

        I’ve started archiving YouTube videos I really like with youtube-dl for this reason. Every once in a while I’ll go through my liked videos and just download them. One of these days I’d like to write a script to automate that, but for now manual works.

        1 vote
        1. [2]
          DanBC
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          The fork yt-dlp is more reliable now. https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

          The fork yt-dlp is more reliable now. https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

          9 votes
          1. hamstergeddon
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            I think that's actually what I'm using (or another fork, not sure), I just aliased it to yt-dl because that's what I'm used to using

            I think that's actually what I'm using (or another fork, not sure), I just aliased it to yt-dl because that's what I'm used to using

            2 votes
        2. [2]
          danke
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          You can add this command to crontab / Task Scheduler: Add --cookies-from-browser BROWSER param if your liked playlist is private.

          You can add this command to crontab / Task Scheduler:

          yt-dlp --playlist-reverse --download-archive /mnt/Media/Youtube/downloaded.txt -i -o "%(uploader)s/%(playlist)s/%(playlist)s - S01E%(playlist_index)s - %(title)s [%(id)s].%(ext)s" -f bestvideo[ext=mp4]+bestaudio[ext=m4a] --merge-output-format mp4 --add-metadata --write-thumbnail --batch-file=/mnt/Media/Youtube/channel_list.txt

          Add --cookies-from-browser BROWSER param if your liked playlist is private.

          3 votes
          1. shrike
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            I really hate how Google specifically prevented API access to personal subscriptions, so that nobody could write a third party tool to track them. All other APIs for managing playlists works, just...

            I really hate how Google specifically prevented API access to personal subscriptions, so that nobody could write a third party tool to track them.

            All other APIs for managing playlists works, just that specific one was disabled years ago.

            1 vote
        3. aetherious
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          I've considered doing it but haven't got around to it but I might have to. There are several YouTube videos I enjoy that I would like to go back to.

          I've considered doing it but haven't got around to it but I might have to. There are several YouTube videos I enjoy that I would like to go back to.

          1 vote
  2. [2]
    danke
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    This is a strange article/title considering Fanimatrix was identified as the oldest active torrent as late as 2018. The actual news is that it turned 20 years old.

    This is a strange article/title considering Fanimatrix was identified as the oldest active torrent as late as 2018. The actual news is that it turned 20 years old.

    7 votes
    1. Barbox
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      Yeah I was curious about the title as well. “Becomes” implies there was an older torrent that recently lost all seeders or something.

      Yeah I was curious about the title as well. “Becomes” implies there was an older torrent that recently lost all seeders or something.

      2 votes
  3. [3]
    balooga
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    Wow! I watched this when it first came out... I'd completely lost that one down the memory hole. Pretty cool claim to fame (and pretty cool short film too, if I'm remembering right after two...

    Wow! I watched this when it first came out... I'd completely lost that one down the memory hole. Pretty cool claim to fame (and pretty cool short film too, if I'm remembering right after two decades).

    In addition to being a great near-free distribution method, BitTorrent is also a reasonable archival technology. As long as one seed node remains online, content can be available online indefinitely. It's not perfect, and torrents die all the time, but important things that people value can achieve a sort of immortality, out of reach of DMCA takedowns or other forms of censorship, and not dependent on a centralized host like YouTube.

    6 votes
    1. vord
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      People also forget that torrents have data integrity checking built in. If a chunk fails a hash test, get gets re-downloaded. Even without the downloading aspect, a torrent file is a great way to...

      People also forget that torrents have data integrity checking built in. If a chunk fails a hash test, get gets re-downloaded.

      Even without the downloading aspect, a torrent file is a great way to check for bit rot.

      6 votes
    2. aetherious
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      I never saw the original but it's funny how the most random things will persist on the internet. You can never predict what will catch some people's fancy and they'll like it enough to continue...

      I never saw the original but it's funny how the most random things will persist on the internet. You can never predict what will catch some people's fancy and they'll like it enough to continue sharing it years decades later.

      1 vote
  4. [5]
    johan
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    Had never heard of it. Watched the short film it and enjoyed it, as well as the article. Wish they would have added a magnet link to the torrent though! A bit strange they didn't but they did add...

    Had never heard of it. Watched the short film it and enjoyed it, as well as the article. Wish they would have added a magnet link to the torrent though! A bit strange they didn't but they did add the youtube embed.

    5 votes
    1. [2]
      aetherious
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      Just speculating here but I assume torrents are still legally frowned upon. YouTube is considered more publically acceptable and accessible.

      Just speculating here but I assume torrents are still legally frowned upon. YouTube is considered more publically acceptable and accessible.

      1. kingofsnake
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        Yes, but they're not really the same thing or have the same goals.

        Yes, but they're not really the same thing or have the same goals.

        2 votes
    2. [2]
      vord
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      I'm not certain magnet links existed for torrents in 2003. They certainly weren't popular yet...back in those early days Pirate Bay was still serving the files.

      I'm not certain magnet links existed for torrents in 2003. They certainly weren't popular yet...back in those early days Pirate Bay was still serving the files.

      1. whbboyd
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        A magnet link is basically just a hash of the file contents. Anyone can generate one from the torrent file at any time, there's nothing special about them.

        A magnet link is basically just a hash of the file contents. Anyone can generate one from the torrent file at any time, there's nothing special about them.

        4 votes
  5. vord
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    https://www.thefanimatrix.net/download.html The tracker is down, but if you enable PEX, DHT, and LPD for peers and uTP for for peer communication you'll get it.

    https://www.thefanimatrix.net/download.html

    The tracker is down, but if you enable PEX, DHT, and LPD for peers and uTP for for peer communication you'll get it.

    3 votes