21 votes

Computing and sustainability

7 comments

  1. [3]
    NoobFace
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    The first half of this is fascinating. I believe the thrust is that Moore's law is effectively subsidizing the tragedy of the commons of computing power. The philosophy of sustainable computing...

    The first half of this is fascinating. I believe the thrust is that Moore's law is effectively subsidizing the tragedy of the commons of computing power. The philosophy of sustainable computing interests me greatly as I often play the role of chicken little when runtimes are being deprecated. I feel that it's worth exploring, but that it's a utopian vision. One without concern for the safety or security of systems. I find artists often discount these elements of existence, even while they starve or are persecuted for their expression.

    Sadly, the internet is corrosive. Anything truly frozen in time will eventually be a liability.

    I really do enjoy thinking about this though. It's such a breath of fresh-air relative to the 'how can I make money with this?' approach.

    8 votes
    1. [2]
      vord
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      Maybe, but also scope of liability can be drastically limited. The only truly worrying ones are unauthenticated remote exploits, which are few and far between for un-patchable hardware exploits....

      Anything truly frozen in time will eventually be a liability.

      Maybe, but also scope of liability can be drastically limited. The only truly worrying ones are unauthenticated remote exploits, which are few and far between for un-patchable hardware exploits. Most everything else can be mitigated so long as people aren't locked out of doing so.

      This is also a good argument for why tethering binary deployment to information deployment is dangerous. If only HTML/CSS was being passed to the browser, the exploit surface is exponentially lower. It would be nice to return to a world where Javascript is truly optional.

      6 votes
      1. ButteredToast
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        It feels a little bit crazy to me with how we’re all ok with vast volumes of JavaScript being pulled in from N sources running with the only thing resembling consent being visiting the page...

        It feels a little bit crazy to me with how we’re all ok with vast volumes of JavaScript being pulled in from N sources running with the only thing resembling consent being visiting the page loading all of it.

        That was ok when the extent of JS was light form validation or making snow fall on the page, but we’re well past the point where some kind of consent dialog (“cnn.com wants to load 23MB of JavaScript from 87 sources. Allow?”) makes sense. I guess it’s the result of some combination of frog boiling and the single biggest web advertisement business having controlled the development of the dominant browser for the past 10-15 years.

        6 votes
  2. [4]
    hungariantoast
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    You can check Devine’s site for links to their other talks: https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/home.html Also their wiki is just really cool and it’s written in a custom assembly language (Uxn). Their...

    You can check Devine’s site for links to their other talks:

    https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/home.html

    Also their wiki is just really cool and it’s written in a custom assembly language (Uxn). Their webring is solid too.

    7 votes
    1. [2]
      tauon
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      As someone who is seeing and discovering all their – very cool – stuff for the first time, I 100% agree. Thanks to you and @Goodtoknow for sharing! I’m falling down a rabbit (no pun intended) hole...

      Also their wiki is just really cool

      As someone who is seeing and discovering all their – very cool – stuff for the first time, I 100% agree. Thanks to you and @Goodtoknow for sharing!

      I’m falling down a rabbit (no pun intended) hole wanting to read all of the posts now, oh my.

      5 votes
      1. crdpa
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        Same. I stumbled upon this website in the past and can't believe I missed. I am eating this up now. I can see how much this goes hand in hand with my socialist view. I love this so much.

        Same. I stumbled upon this website in the past and can't believe I missed.

        I am eating this up now. I can see how much this goes hand in hand with my socialist view. I love this so much.

        2 votes
    2. Goodtoknow
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      What other webrings do you know about

      What other webrings do you know about

      1 vote