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Federal Trade Commission announces final “Click-to-Cancel” rule making it easier for US consumers to end recurring subscriptions and memberships

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  1. [3]
    everythingisblue
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    There are 5 Commissioners of the FTC. Three Democrats and two Republicans. The rule passed 3 - 2. The 2 dissenting votes were the two Republicans, and they dissented based on claims that this type...

    There are 5 Commissioners of the FTC. Three Democrats and two Republicans. The rule passed 3 - 2. The 2 dissenting votes were the two Republicans, and they dissented based on claims that this type of rule making is FTC overreach (saying this will not hold up to legal challenge, and that such rule making should be left to Congress) and that it was rushed through for political points ahead of the presidential election.

    Very little of the dissenting opinion writeup (from the first 5 pages I read) has anything to do with why this ruling would be bad for consumers.

    31 votes
    1. [2]
      Weldawadyathink
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      Calling all republican obstructionists in the regulatory agencies. I have some fascinating information for you that you apparently aren’t aware of. We already have a system to decide when...

      Calling all republican obstructionists in the regulatory agencies. I have some fascinating information for you that you apparently aren’t aware of. We already have a system to decide when government agencies overreach. In fact, we have 2 different systems for this! If you overreach, the judicial system will provide a ruling to clarify your intended reach. If congress disagrees, they will pass new laws to limit your reach.

      As part of the regulatory agency, it is not your job to decide what is an overreach. We have other people for that. If you ever vote against something simply because it’s an overreach, you should resign immediately and get into the legislative or judicial branches. The executive branch does not decide or interpret laws. Cut it out.

      I wish these people would step down or get removed. They clearly do not understand the role they are supposed to have in our government. Open those seats up for the people who actually want to execute the laws that our government passes.

      14 votes
      1. updawg
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        In this instance, it seems like you are suggesting that federal agencies should make any and every rule that they want and never self-police. It's not like an external force told them to do this;...

        In this instance, it seems like you are suggesting that federal agencies should make any and every rule that they want and never self-police. It's not like an external force told them to do this; they are doing it of their own accord.

        I hope it's not overreach.

        I believe the Republicans are largely obstructionists.

        But yes, obviously you have a responsibility to not do things you believe you aren't allowed to do and it's frankly silly to suggest otherwise.

        3 votes
  2. [5]
    kingofsnake
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    Tell Canada, please.

    Tell Canada, please.

    7 votes
    1. [4]
      Minori
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      Odds are, they'll get to ride the US's coattails on this for major international companies. Maintaining separate subscription cancellation pages for different regions sounds like a pain.

      Odds are, they'll get to ride the US's coattails on this for major international companies. Maintaining separate subscription cancellation pages for different regions sounds like a pain.

      3 votes
      1. [3]
        kingofsnake
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        Hah, it's true. Like we all ride on California's decisions with labelling etc.

        Hah, it's true. Like we all ride on California's decisions with labelling etc.

        7 votes
        1. [2]
          MimicSquid
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          And at the same time, that snake Gavin Newsom is avoiding passing needed regulation by "deferring to federal rulemaking." He wants to be President so bad that he's willing to ignore the needs of...

          And at the same time, that snake Gavin Newsom is avoiding passing needed regulation by "deferring to federal rulemaking." He wants to be President so bad that he's willing to ignore the needs of Californians to posture for a national audience.

          3 votes
          1. kingofsnake
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            Sounds like Quebec up here. The tail that was the dog 🥴

            Sounds like Quebec up here. The tail that was the dog 🥴