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Looking for music solutions for my car; can anyone recommend a digital audio player?

So I have a car that's ~10 years old and I like to listen to music as I drive. I was relying on the CD player, but it only works intermittently these days, so I'm looking into alternatives.

I'm not big on connecting my phone via Bluetooth for security reasons, battery life concerns, and poor connection for streaming. I've got radio of course, but it's slim pickings where I live.

I starting looking into digital audio players. They sound ideal - compact, big offline library, physical controls - so I was hoping someone on Tildes can recommend one to me. Alternatively, if you've another solution, I'd love to hear it.

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  1. [4]
    vord
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    Quite happy with the Hifiwalker H2. My only two complaints are that album art can be a bit finicky (though this is true for most devices in this category) and that it's a bit hefty. For the car,...

    Quite happy with the Hifiwalker H2. My only two complaints are that album art can be a bit finicky (though this is true for most devices in this category) and that it's a bit hefty.

    For the car, my car has built-in music player off a USB stick, which also has finicky art problems.

    8 votes
    1. [2]
      IudexMiku
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      Artwork isn't a concern for me, so I'll give it a look, thanks! It should usually be stationary in my car, so I don't mind if it's a bit cumbersome.

      Artwork isn't a concern for me, so I'll give it a look, thanks! It should usually be stationary in my car, so I don't mind if it's a bit cumbersome.

      3 votes
      1. bushbear
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        I have a HiFi Walker h2 with rockbox on it. I recently got and old speaker with an aux port so I can play music while cycling. Works like a charm. Rockbox can be a bit finicky but i much prefer...

        I have a HiFi Walker h2 with rockbox on it. I recently got and old speaker with an aux port so I can play music while cycling. Works like a charm.

        Rockbox can be a bit finicky but i much prefer the interface that the standard one.

        2 votes
    2. Paul26
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      Another vote for the HiFi Walker. Pretty solid device and good price. In my opinion good value. You can definitely find cheaper ones and way more expensive ones, but for OP’s use case I think it’s...

      Another vote for the HiFi Walker. Pretty solid device and good price. In my opinion good value. You can definitely find cheaper ones and way more expensive ones, but for OP’s use case I think it’s a good one. I like that it has physical controls.

      1 vote
  2. [3]
    AspiringAlienist
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    My first instinct would be getting a cheap Sansa clip style mp3 player from aliexpress (seen them for $15-20) or amazon. Most of them accept microSD. Some even do FLAC and will have decent sound....

    My first instinct would be getting a cheap Sansa clip style mp3 player from aliexpress (seen them for $15-20) or amazon. Most of them accept microSD. Some even do FLAC and will have decent sound. And they are probably light enough to easily mount them anywhere. Check the reviews thoroughly though, to prevent buying e-waste. If it doesn’t work out like you want it, it’s a low investment cost and still usable for workouts and the like.

    Or maybe the best (cheapest, climate-minded) first option would be re-using an old phone as an offline DAP, if you have one lying around. Most modern DAPs are android devices with good DACs anyway.

    Finally, if I have to recommend a (retro) DAP: I am really happy with the Hifi Walker H2, often found for approx $125 on Amazon. It’s basically an updated iPod-like device but with an microSD (up to 256 GB), USB-C, Bluetooth, FLAC and a built-in DAC (you can use the device as an USB-C DAC). It’s compatible with Rockbox (dualboot) which I find is an improvement over the standard UI (DAC and Bluetooth are only available on the native firmware). Additionally there’s an 3,5mm aux-out port besides the standard headphone-jack, which is useful for connecting to speakers and probably for the car. A more thorough review and comparison with similar devices can be found on audiophile-heaven

    Regarding the issue that @creesch mentioned:
    The physical controls are indeed a bit small for handling in the car. Not sure if it supports inline controls (which are probably also small though). An option would be connecting via Bluetooth and having it work via suitable Bluetooth inline controls, mounted somewhere handy. The hifi walker has not the most stable Bluetooth connection, but has worked in a pinch for me with both earbuds, speaker and in-car bluetooth.

    Good luck!

    4 votes
    1. IudexMiku
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      I've only switched phones when the last one becomes unusable, so no luck there. The Hifi sounds like what I'm after. The review you linked was delightfully thorough. I might pick one up soon, thanks!

      I've only switched phones when the last one becomes unusable, so no luck there. The Hifi sounds like what I'm after. The review you linked was delightfully thorough. I might pick one up soon, thanks!

      2 votes
    2. ShroudedScribe
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      This reminded me of what I did with mine (slightly different model) ages ago - installed Rockbox on it! It looks like it now supports at least one of the other suggested hardware options mentioned...

      Sansa clip style mp3 player

      This reminded me of what I did with mine (slightly different model) ages ago - installed Rockbox on it!

      It looks like it now supports at least one of the other suggested hardware options mentioned in this thread, so it's worth exploring if the device is good but the official software is bad.

  3. creesch
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    I assume for the moment that the player in your car is integrated in the dashboard and not one you can easily replace? Because if you can, there are plenty of car radios out there that can take...

    I assume for the moment that the player in your car is integrated in the dashboard and not one you can easily replace? Because if you can, there are plenty of car radios out there that can take usb sticks, memory cards, etc for playing back mp3s and such.

    If that isn't an option, I have to assume your radio does have an aux in you can plug the player into?

    Final question, by digital audio players, I assume you mean portable devices that are the modern continuation of "mp3 players"?
    Because most modern players actually don't have physical controls as far as I know. Most of them that I have seen use a touch screen. Although I suppose you can mount those with a phone mount within reach.

    As far as physical controls go, if they do have them, they are too small and finicky to safely use while driving.

    One thing to consider, audio players will also have a battery that will degrade. Bluetooth security I can't really comment on. But in my experience for audio streaming in a car context, it has been more than fine for me for years.

    3 votes
  4. kingofsnake
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    If you're willing to pull the dash apart and install something new, Android head units from companies like Atoto are great. I run 1TB of music off of an SD card, I have offline maps and I can...

    If you're willing to pull the dash apart and install something new, Android head units from companies like Atoto are great. I run 1TB of music off of an SD card, I have offline maps and I can connect to the car's computer using an ODB port plus Bluetooth to monitor things.

    If you want a less intense option, the Hiby M300 is an incredible android player for the price. Dedicated buttons, good battery life and the quality of life software you'll find on an Android device.

    I run Poweramp on both.

    2 votes
  5. zod000
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    I am not in need of a new DAP at the moment, but I really like the look of the one that @vord linked. I personally am rocking a MixxTape at the moment. It's highly silly and wacky, but does the...

    I am not in need of a new DAP at the moment, but I really like the look of the one that @vord linked. I personally am rocking a MixxTape at the moment. It's highly silly and wacky, but does the job. It doesn't have physical controls though and the screen is too small to be safe to use in car anyway.

    1 vote
  6. Tlon_Uqbar
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    Earlier this year I bought an iBasso DX180, and I've been really happy with it. It has a microSD slot, and I got a 1TB card so that I can actually take around all my (digital) music with me for...

    Earlier this year I bought an iBasso DX180, and I've been really happy with it. It has a microSD slot, and I got a 1TB card so that I can actually take around all my (digital) music with me for the first time in like 15 years. Yeah, it's mostly touch screen controlled, but there are some good features: three customizable buttons, a volume dial, and an easily replaceable battery. I feel like a lot of the Chinese-made DAPs are pretty similar, so you could probably find one with the right features/price point for you.

    1 vote
  7. Ampoth
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    I've always had older cars, and I used to just burn a CD of like 20 favorite songs and just listen to it on loop replacing it every few months. I had used that Aux to Cassette Tape converter when...

    I've always had older cars, and I used to just burn a CD of like 20 favorite songs and just listen to it on loop replacing it every few months. I had used that Aux to Cassette Tape converter when I wanted to connect my phone, but when I got my current car I went for this. I initially got it for the Bluetooth connectivity since my current car doesn't have that capability, but it turns out that SD card feature is actually the more useful one. I can get a large SD card and just put a bunch of my favorite music on it and then it just plays it on a giant loop, so I basically have a radio station that plays music I enjoy. If I really want to I can reach down and hit next on the device, but honestly not having any real control about being able to pick what it's going to play (apart from just hitting next until I get what I want which is work I don't want to do because I'm lazy) is really freeing. It releases me from any kind of choice paralysis that comes with having my whole music library available.

    1 vote
  8. [8]
    Pistos
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    What are the concerns with a Bluetooth connection?

    What are the concerns with a Bluetooth connection?

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      snake_case
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      Not op but if you keep your bluetooth on all the time some advertisements connect to your phone and get tracking data off you as you walk by. Its super invasive.

      Not op but if you keep your bluetooth on all the time some advertisements connect to your phone and get tracking data off you as you walk by. Its super invasive.

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        Pistos
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        Do you have any sources for that? I can see how it might track a unique ID passing by, but I didn't think it would be able to get more than that.

        Do you have any sources for that? I can see how it might track a unique ID passing by, but I didn't think it would be able to get more than that.

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        1. snake_case
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          It was something in the news probably like ten years ago. I’ll do some research I guess

          It was something in the news probably like ten years ago. I’ll do some research I guess

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      IudexMiku
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      I don't recall the specifics, but I remember reading an article a few years back about Ford storing and giving police access to text messages from phones connected via Bluetooth. Perhaps there was...

      I don't recall the specifics, but I remember reading an article a few years back about Ford storing and giving police access to text messages from phones connected via Bluetooth. Perhaps there was more involved, but if I'm sending more data than I need to a car company I'd rather avoid it.

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        tech-taters
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        As far as I’ve seen, the only “permission” a Bluetooth receiver request is to sync contacts, for the purposes of using the in-car voice control. Maybe one to make calls as well. If you choose a...

        As far as I’ve seen, the only “permission” a Bluetooth receiver request is to sync contacts, for the purposes of using the in-car voice control. Maybe one to make calls as well.

        If you choose a Bluetooth based music player, it might not even ask for that. If it does, you just deny it. You won’t lose music player functionality.

        To specifically address the Ford case, that can only happen if the car software integrates the Bluetooth receiver. Nobody can snoop your text messages (realistically anyways) with an offline music player.

        Essentially, Bluetooth isn’t the problem there, it’s Ford (assuming you have the story right, I’m not making any assertions about that)

        1 vote
        1. IudexMiku
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          Of course, I'd have no issue connecting a music player via Bluetooth since I would have no sensitive information on it. I had a Google for what I remember about Ford copying data from phones....

          Of course, I'd have no issue connecting a music player via Bluetooth since I would have no sensitive information on it.

          I had a Google for what I remember about Ford copying data from phones. There was a class action lawsuit filed about it, but I don't think it went anywhere.

      2. creesch
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        Fyi. Bluetooth on phones has a permission sort of system. You can simply set it to only do audio.

        Fyi. Bluetooth on phones has a permission sort of system. You can simply set it to only do audio.

        1 vote