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Microsoft has sunk a data centre in the sea to investigate whether it can boost energy efficiency

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      gksu
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      I wonder if you could design a completely solid state data center if you knew the temp would be low enough. There's an Isaac Arthur video about colonizing Titan that discusses the amazing...

      I wonder if you could design a completely solid state data center if you knew the temp would be low enough. There's an Isaac Arthur video about colonizing Titan that discusses the amazing efficiency gain from super low temperatures.

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      1. teaearlgraycold
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        No fans and no spinning disks would leave capacitors as the first things to go I think.

        No fans and no spinning disks would leave capacitors as the first things to go I think.

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    SaucedButLeaking
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    I am somewhat worried about heat pollution, especially if this scales up to enterprise use, but if there is a significant reduction in energy consumption, there may be a net benefit regardless....

    I am somewhat worried about heat pollution, especially if this scales up to enterprise use, but if there is a significant reduction in energy consumption, there may be a net benefit regardless.

    That being said, I love that it's running on renewable energy, and that the projected failure rate puts the estimated life span at 5 years.

    If nothing else, it'll be an interesting find for future archaeologists or treasure hunters!

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      crwcomposer
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      The data center would produce the same amount of heat above water. From the perspective of global warming I don't think it matters whether the heat is released above the water or below it. And...

      The data center would produce the same amount of heat above water. From the perspective of global warming I don't think it matters whether the heat is released above the water or below it. And since the ocean is large with currents, I don't think the heating would be very significant outside of a small radius.

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        SaucedButLeaking
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        Yeah, I don't see it contributing significantly to global ocean temperatures, but a study of the local waters would be nice. Does the minute change in temperature have any effect, basically?

        Yeah, I don't see it contributing significantly to global ocean temperatures, but a study of the local waters would be nice. Does the minute change in temperature have any effect, basically?

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        1. gksu
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          If I had to guess, no. Water has such a high specific heat and is so easily dispersed that it would really surprise me. Plus, with the included efficiency it might actually be better. But then I'm...

          If I had to guess, no. Water has such a high specific heat and is so easily dispersed that it would really surprise me. Plus, with the included efficiency it might actually be better. But then I'm not a marine biologist.

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      2. NubWizard
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        The issue is rising ocean temperatures. The rate at which the ocean is warming is so high and fast, we are losing entire ecosystems due to coral bleaching. If you put the data center in the water,...

        The issue is rising ocean temperatures. The rate at which the ocean is warming is so high and fast, we are losing entire ecosystems due to coral bleaching. If you put the data center in the water, the ocean will absorb more of the heat, faster. It's like putting a pot of water on the stove but turning on a different burner. The temp will eventually rise it's ambient temperature but it would have a much larger impact if its getting direct contact.

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    Zeerph
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    I do wonder what happens when one of the servers just breaks or needs to be manually repaired. Are they just going to shut the whole thing down and raise it to the surface? Or are they just going...

    but if the computers onboard break, they cannot be repaired.
    It will not be possible to repair the computers if they fail, but the hope is that there will be a lower failure rate than on land.

    I do wonder what happens when one of the servers just breaks or needs to be manually repaired. Are they just going to shut the whole thing down and raise it to the surface? Or are they just going to slowly let them all fail?

    "We've got so much renewable energy here," says EMEC managing director Neil Kermode.
    "We've produced more than we need since 2012."

    I wonder how much Microsoft is paying in power bills, if these folks say they have too much power.

    "This is a crazy experiment that I hope will turn into reality" he said. "But this is a research project right now - and one reason we do different types of research into data centres is to learn what makes sense before we decide to take it to a larger scale."

    So, if it goes well, they are going to have huge undersea data centres all over the place.
    If it goes badly, fish can have a new home off the coast of Orkney.

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    1. creesch
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      From what I understand reading it they are going to let them fail. These are probably machines that host virtual machines meaning that failing hardware isn't really as much of an issue as it will...

      I do wonder what happens when one of the servers just breaks or needs to be manually repaired. Are they just going to shut the whole thing down and raise it to the surface? Or are they just going to slowly let them all fail?

      From what I understand reading it they are going to let them fail. These are probably machines that host virtual machines meaning that failing hardware isn't really as much of an issue as it will just migrate to a different machine.

      This is a research project anyway so they don't need an answer for that particular aspect right away.
      This is just speculation on my part, but I figure that they probably will do a cost benefit calculation regarding the size of these server containers that makes them big enough to be economically viable even if some hardware fails and at the same time small enough to eventually bring them to the surface with relative ease to replace parts.

      I am curious if eventually the cooling benefits will be enough to offset all of the added costs this brings.

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    Tardigrade
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    This is the stupid "for fun" thing that I'd do if I owned a huge company. If it works it could be good however.

    This is the stupid "for fun" thing that I'd do if I owned a huge company. If it works it could be good however.

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    1. redikulous
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      If it sounds stupid and works; it's not stupid.

      If it sounds stupid and works; it's not stupid.

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