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A college girl was exploited on camera. A network of anonymous men got to work.

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  1. Hunterquill
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    Insane story of "anonymous" twitter users exploiting young college women and the university and legal systems doing nothing about it. Twitter should be held accountable as well, though we know how...

    Insane story of "anonymous" twitter users exploiting young college women and the university and legal systems doing nothing about it. Twitter should be held accountable as well, though we know how that will go in these times.

    12 votes
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    Omnicrola
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    Dang. From the phrasing of the title I was hoping the second part was describing "and then this other group of men tracked down and doxxed the ones who exploited the girl". I am disappointed.

    Dang. From the phrasing of the title I was hoping the second part was describing "and then this other group of men tracked down and doxxed the ones who exploited the girl".

    I am disappointed.

    11 votes
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      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      Unfortunately because it said "anonymous men", I didn't think that. Sigh I want to think that.

      Unfortunately because it said "anonymous men", I didn't think that.

      Sigh I want to think that.

      7 votes
      1. Hunterquill
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        Yeah, I guess I’ve read so much about these “-spheres” and “-verses” that I kind of just expect the worst from them

        Yeah, I guess I’ve read so much about these “-spheres” and “-verses” that I kind of just expect the worst from them

        1 vote
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    updawg
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    I'm reading this, but I almost don't believe it. It's like a movie plot that makes you roll your eyes. Like there's no way this could happen in real life.

    I'm reading this, but I almost don't believe it. It's like a movie plot that makes you roll your eyes. Like there's no way this could happen in real life.

    3 votes
    1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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      A movie wouldn't have been as extreme. It would have been more balanced. They (the filmmakers) would have had qualms about reducing women to this "non-person" object of ridicule. Because they...

      A movie wouldn't have been as extreme. It would have been more balanced. They (the filmmakers) would have had qualms about reducing women to this "non-person" object of ridicule. Because they (these men) don't see women as people. Not really. Not in any way that matters.

      Though, after the Pelicot case, I am surprised anyone finds this surprising.

      5 votes
    2. Hunterquill
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      It seems like every few years southern frat boys have to remind us of how sick and depraved they are

      It seems like every few years southern frat boys have to remind us of how sick and depraved they are

  4. TonesTones
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    Disgusting and abhorrent. I could barely even finish the article. Though, there was something interesting from a legal perspective. While the family is trying to seek out the original poster of...

    Disgusting and abhorrent. I could barely even finish the article.

    Though, there was something interesting from a legal perspective. While the family is trying to seek out the original poster of the images, it’s clear the damage is being inflicted by a network of people instead of just a couple individuals. This severely neuters the effectiveness of the traditional legal system.

    There were also multiple accusations at hand, making it hard to focus. Should the family go after the men who had sex with a clearly intoxicated woman? Whoever shot the video? The people who’d shared it in private group chats? Or the burner accounts who made Kowalski’s humiliation a national news story? Real harm had been done to Kowalski, and her family, but identifying who was most culpable was nearly impossible.

    It’s pretty interesting to try and brainstorm possible solutions to this issue. Typically, when there’s a network of bad actors (like at a company doing fraud), the blame falls on a few high-level, high-responsibility actors. That approach doesn’t work when the network is so decentralized, like in a case like this.

    Could scholars brainstorm a way to distribute culpability, restitution, and punitive punishment easily across a network? Can this be done digitally in a privacy-protecting way? If possible, could such a framework be used to hold complicit actors accountable even when they aren’t the leader of one of these operations? These are all questions I’ve never thought about.

    1 vote