I don't think anyone here is arguing that. (Just kidding, I read some other comments.) I'm not even sure the article is arguing that. I think the article is just about the potential downfall of...
I don't think anyone here is arguing that. (Just kidding, I read some other comments.) I'm not even sure the article is arguing that. I think the article is just about the potential downfall of Windows.
It's definitely good for Google (which is why they are doing it, no doubt), but I think the question is whether or not Microsoft will react in time, or if what they are currently doing is...
It's definitely good for Google (which is why they are doing it, no doubt), but I think the question is whether or not Microsoft will react in time, or if what they are currently doing is sufficient to keep ChromeOS with a small market share.
There's still a lot of proprietrary software on Windows that isn't ported to Linux (I know of LibreOffice, GIMP, etc, but my point is they're used as industry standards.) I think that will keep...
There's still a lot of proprietrary software on Windows that isn't ported to Linux (I know of LibreOffice, GIMP, etc, but my point is they're used as industry standards.) I think that will keep Microsoft's monopoly going for a while, but the fact machines from a range of prices (previously you mainly had netbooks and google's expensive pixelbooks) are built with a linux distro on them, without the user having to install it manually, is a masive step forward in terms of getting more people to use Linux on the desktop.
At what level of market share would people be more willing to port over some of this proprietary software? Or even just make sure their software runs in Wine? While I agree, ChromeOS is not...
There's still a lot of proprietrary software on Windows that isn't ported to Linux ...
At what level of market share would people be more willing to port over some of this proprietary software?
Or even just make sure their software runs in Wine?
... is a masive step forward in terms of getting more people to use Linux on the desktop
While I agree, ChromeOS is not necessarily made to run Linux applications, would Google want to make that a possibility?
Google is adding linux app support right now, although it's focused more at developers. The project is called crostini, and it's making relatively good progress. I imagine once it is more fleshed...
Google is adding linux app support right now, although it's focused more at developers. The project is called crostini, and it's making relatively good progress. I imagine once it is more fleshed out, they'll make it easier for the average user to use.
Nothing will convince me that that will become available on already-released chromebooks, though. They still haven't brought Android apps to my old chromebook, and it's been about two years since...
Nothing will convince me that that will become available on already-released chromebooks, though. They still haven't brought Android apps to my old chromebook, and it's been about two years since they promised it.
I'm not sure, Mac has a fair bit of the proprietrary software ported at just 10% or so market share, if I recall correctly. I have a feeling regardless of market share, Microsoft won't port over...
I'm not sure, Mac has a fair bit of the proprietrary software ported at just 10% or so market share, if I recall correctly. I have a feeling regardless of market share, Microsoft won't port over MS Office, which is key for a lot of jobs (I think, I don't know), and LO has some compatibility issues. @tesseractcat has already talked about crostini. But I'm no businessperson, so not sure when they'll port.
I imagine the only thing that would get Microsoft to port MS Office is if another company manages to get a majority of the commercial market involved with a different office suite.
I imagine the only thing that would get Microsoft to port MS Office is if another company manages to get a majority of the commercial market involved with a different office suite.
Microsoft has ported about 70% of MS Office functionality to the Office 365 web apps suite. O 365 has exactly enough capability to outperform GApps, while the pricing remains competitive. And of...
Microsoft has ported about 70% of MS Office functionality to the Office 365 web apps suite. O 365 has exactly enough capability to outperform GApps, while the pricing remains competitive. And of course, it's a teaser for the full-featured, much more expensive MS Office products. O 365 performs fine on Chromium; it's a platform-independent source of revenue for M$.
And the business world is getting increasingly disgusted with $1,000-2,000 laptops, Mac or Windows, which require managed encryption, fragile patching and tracking software, and giant, bandwidth-sucking updates.
I may be elitist, but I don't think I would really count Chromebooks a step for anyone other than Google.
They absolutely are, but I don't think it's a good tool for promoting free open source operating systems as it's a pretty closed ecosystem.
I don't think anyone here is arguing that.(Just kidding, I read some other comments.) I'm not even sure the article is arguing that. I think the article is just about the potential downfall of Windows.It's definitely good for Google (which is why they are doing it, no doubt), but I think the question is whether or not Microsoft will react in time, or if what they are currently doing is sufficient to keep ChromeOS with a small market share.
There's still a lot of proprietrary software on Windows that isn't ported to Linux (I know of LibreOffice, GIMP, etc, but my point is they're used as industry standards.) I think that will keep Microsoft's monopoly going for a while, but the fact machines from a range of prices (previously you mainly had netbooks and google's expensive pixelbooks) are built with a linux distro on them, without the user having to install it manually, is a masive step forward in terms of getting more people to use Linux on the desktop.
At what level of market share would people be more willing to port over some of this proprietary software?
Or even just make sure their software runs in Wine?
While I agree, ChromeOS is not necessarily made to run Linux applications, would Google want to make that a possibility?
Google is adding linux app support right now, although it's focused more at developers. The project is called crostini, and it's making relatively good progress. I imagine once it is more fleshed out, they'll make it easier for the average user to use.
Crostini looks pretty interesting. I wonder, though, how contributors to more traditional Linux distributions and projects react to Google doing this?
Nothing will convince me that that will become available on already-released chromebooks, though. They still haven't brought Android apps to my old chromebook, and it's been about two years since they promised it.
I'm not sure, Mac has a fair bit of the proprietrary software ported at just 10% or so market share, if I recall correctly. I have a feeling regardless of market share, Microsoft won't port over MS Office, which is key for a lot of jobs (I think, I don't know), and LO has some compatibility issues. @tesseractcat has already talked about crostini. But I'm no businessperson, so not sure when they'll port.
I imagine the only thing that would get Microsoft to port MS Office is if another company manages to get a majority of the commercial market involved with a different office suite.
Dreams for LibreOffice hopefully, as it's progressing very fast :)
Given that .NET and SQL server run on Linux now, I guess that means we won. :P
Microsoft has ported about 70% of MS Office functionality to the Office 365 web apps suite. O 365 has exactly enough capability to outperform GApps, while the pricing remains competitive. And of course, it's a teaser for the full-featured, much more expensive MS Office products. O 365 performs fine on Chromium; it's a platform-independent source of revenue for M$.
And the business world is getting increasingly disgusted with $1,000-2,000 laptops, Mac or Windows, which require managed encryption, fragile patching and tracking software, and giant, bandwidth-sucking updates.