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Verizon is looking to sell Tumblr, Pornhub looking to buy

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  1. [14]
    moocow1452
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    First off, I called it. 👍 Second, Tumblr I guess would have to lean into the other side it's demographic, to the detriment of it's younger users since it would be owned and intergrated into an...

    First off, I called it. 👍

    Second, Tumblr I guess would have to lean into the other side it's demographic, to the detriment of it's younger users since it would be owned and intergrated into an adult content ecosystem?

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    1. [12]
      clerical_terrors
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      I don't think there's any reason for PornHub to "lean more into the other side of it's demographic". They've been generally Internet savvy, and this reads most like a PR move acquisition: rescue...

      I don't think there's any reason for PornHub to "lean more into the other side of it's demographic". They've been generally Internet savvy, and this reads most like a PR move acquisition: rescue the popular platform from the censors, possibly integrate some features to benefit PornHub, but mostly keep it running as before and reap in the goodwill.

      16 votes
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        alyaza
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        hopefully if they acquire it they'll actually figure out how to fucking moderate the place. tumblr has basically not had moderation in any consistent form since like, 2014, despite bouncing from...

        They've been generally Internet savvy, and this reads most like a PR move acquisition: rescue the popular platform from the censors, possibly integrate some features to benefit PornHub, but mostly keep it running as before and reap in the goodwill.

        hopefully if they acquire it they'll actually figure out how to fucking moderate the place. tumblr has basically not had moderation in any consistent form since like, 2014, despite bouncing from ownership group to ownership group, and it's one of the biggest problems with the platform at this point. if it had even a modicum of decent moderation it'd probably be significantly more successful than it is right now.

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          unknown user
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          What kind of moderation issues has Tumblr had? I've heard of pedophile rings and a whole lot of white nationalism going on, which are arguably moderation issues(?).

          What kind of moderation issues has Tumblr had? I've heard of pedophile rings and a whole lot of white nationalism going on, which are arguably moderation issues(?).

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          1. [6]
            alyaza
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            mostly of the "they don't even bother to try and moderate in the first place" variety, which is what allowed things like that to spring up. and when they did step in, usually it'd be to take out a...

            mostly of the "they don't even bother to try and moderate in the first place" variety, which is what allowed things like that to spring up. and when they did step in, usually it'd be to take out a bunch of people who weren't really causing problems to begin with instead of the white supremacists or the Columbine stans or the pro-ana community or any other number of awful communities on their site.

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            1. [5]
              unknown user
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              ...do I want to know?

              the pro-ana community

              ...do I want to know?

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              1. [4]
                alyaza
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                pro-anorexia community. there also used to be a bunch of reddit subs for it also (and i'm sure somewhere, there still are), but they mostly got nuked a year or two back because reddit decided that...

                pro-anorexia community. there also used to be a bunch of reddit subs for it also (and i'm sure somewhere, there still are), but they mostly got nuked a year or two back because reddit decided that maybe they should do something about that. tumblr has mostly just ignored the whole thing.

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                1. [3]
                  unknown user
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                  I'm now curious, in a "morbid fascination" way: what are the arguments for anorexia? (Yes, I'm asking you. In most other cases, I would go out and search the Web, but this, I'd rather get through...

                  I'm now curious, in a "morbid fascination" way: what are the arguments for anorexia? (Yes, I'm asking you. In most other cases, I would go out and search the Web, but this, I'd rather get through a filter.)

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                    alyaza
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                    wikipedia has a decently long article on the pro-ana community which probably summarizes it better than i could.

                    wikipedia has a decently long article on the pro-ana community which probably summarizes it better than i could.

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                    1. unknown user
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                      into the pit I go

                      into the pit I go

                      2 votes
        2. [2]
          clerical_terrors
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          I think at the scale at which it operates moderation would be nigh impossible unless they had some really powerful tools in the backend.

          I think at the scale at which it operates moderation would be nigh impossible unless they had some really powerful tools in the backend.

          1. alyaza
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            i mean, even a token effort would be something resembling the right direction, even if it's inept and doesn't do much ultimately, because right now the status quo is them doing basically nothing...

            i mean, even a token effort would be something resembling the right direction, even if it's inept and doesn't do much ultimately, because right now the status quo is them doing basically nothing but driving all the people who actually use their site in good faith to other websites.

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      2. KapteinB
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        I agree this sounds like a PR move. I doubt they even have any intention of actually buying Tumblr. It seems more lilely to me that they just want to be part of the conversation to gain some free...

        I agree this sounds like a PR move. I doubt they even have any intention of actually buying Tumblr. It seems more lilely to me that they just want to be part of the conversation to gain some free PR and goodwill.

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    2. unknown user
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      I don't see why unless they stick their branding onto it and make it adult first instead of adult friendly. I liked Tumblr, there was great community there, and the blogging and theming was nice...

      Second, Tumblr I guess would have to lean into the other side it's demographic, to the detriment of it's younger users since it would be owned and intergrated into an adult content ecosystem?

      I don't see why unless they stick their branding onto it and make it adult first instead of adult friendly. I liked Tumblr, there was great community there, and the blogging and theming was nice and simple. I wouldn't return to it from a static website today, but it is way better than Blogger or crap like Squarespace or Wix for your free personal homepage.

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      teaearlgraycold
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      But can they bring back the blogs that were snapped?

      But can they bring back the blogs that were snapped?

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      1. Amarok
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        As long as that data is still in the backups somewhere, yes. The question becomes one of backup retention policy for the company. There is no standard practice for backup retention, it'll depend...

        As long as that data is still in the backups somewhere, yes. The question becomes one of backup retention policy for the company. There is no standard practice for backup retention, it'll depend on how tumblr's infrastructure evolved. I'd say the odds are better than 50/50 that they've got a year-old restore-the-universe dataset floating around somewhere, but there are no guarantees.

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      2. Diff
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        AFAIK the data all still exists, it's all just hidden. A few blogs that were nuked were able to be restored on appeal, and all the individual posts can be appealed and even still seen through tumbex.

        AFAIK the data all still exists, it's all just hidden. A few blogs that were nuked were able to be restored on appeal, and all the individual posts can be appealed and even still seen through tumbex.

  3. Cananopie
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    Well I doubt they'll get more than a $1.1 billion which is what Yahoo! paid for it. Humorous that the then Yahoo! CEO promised not to "screw it up." Being that tildes is trying to be a more...

    Well I doubt they'll get more than a $1.1 billion which is what Yahoo! paid for it. Humorous that the then Yahoo! CEO promised not to "screw it up." Being that tildes is trying to be a more independent form of social media I'm going to share some of my more in depth thoughts I shared once on my reddit account on this:

    I kind of foresaw this happening back when Yahoo! bought Tumblr for $1 billion (remember that???). At the time tumblr was my preferred platform because it was independent and offered something that still reminded me of the early days of the internet- something a little more independent and unregulated, yet thoughtful and meaningful. I liked the mashup reblog aspect of it but even it's designs seemed sleeker.

    But Yahoo! is like the corporate graveyard and anything owned by it quickly loses any and all credibility that it would continue on in the developers image. The porn aspect, to me, symbolized tumblrs independence whereas Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, all "cleaned themselves up" tumblr still allowed what I felt was a freer and more independent blogging experience. But after the purchase of tumblr by Yahoo! I began to stop using tumblr because after all, it received the kiss of death. I think many people saw the writing on the wall and so the only thing left was the porn to where today that's it's main reputation.

    To me, Yahoo! buying Tumblr wasn't about making it work, it was about getting ahold of and collecting that last bastion of data, realizing it's not the ideal platform for that, conservatively infringes on copyright, and it's better to just let it die a slow death while people migrate to a more data-collection friendly social media site firmly under corporate control. And I think anyone who paid attention to the internet saw that was the original intent from that very purchase. Yahoo! made no claims that they wanted to be a leading social media corporation with Tumblr. The corporate world just wanted to have a tentacle in the last vestige of large scale internet independence. Whatever they do to it now was inevitable from that moment of purchase.

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    1. lionirdeadman
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      Yeah, Verizon bought it when they bought Yahoo. They own quite a bit more than people think, they own Yahoo, Mapquest (which was part of Yahoo), AOL, Verizon Media (previously Oath) which includes...

      Yeah, Verizon bought it when they bought Yahoo.

      They own quite a bit more than people think, they own Yahoo, Mapquest (which was part of Yahoo), AOL, Verizon Media (previously Oath) which includes TechCrunch and some others if I recall correctly.

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