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Reddit announces "Reddit Talk," its clone of Clubhouse

14 comments

  1. [10]
    Flashynuff
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    I opened that on my phone and there was so much padding on the sides the main text colum was about 4 words wide. Apparently their redesign is going well. This isn't innovative and it's not new -...

    I opened that on my phone and there was so much padding on the sides the main text colum was about 4 words wide. Apparently their redesign is going well.

    This isn't innovative and it's not new - just more of following the pack. Reddit continues to chase growth over actual, useful features - which makes me wonder, why would anyone go to reddit if they can just go to every other site with a clubhouse clone?

    13 votes
    1. Loire
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      Because Reddit has critical mass well beyond any alternative?

      Because Reddit has critical mass well beyond any alternative?

      19 votes
    2. [4]
      Deimos
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      For whatever reason, all of the major social media platforms have decided that they're going to copy everything that the others do, instead of focusing on and enhancing whatever their specific...

      For whatever reason, all of the major social media platforms have decided that they're going to copy everything that the others do, instead of focusing on and enhancing whatever their specific platform does best (which is what made it popular in the first place). It's making them all feel very generic. Every platform just has their own slightly different version of every feature on all of the others.

      For example, Facebook also announced a bunch of audio features today too.

      16 votes
      1. cfabbro
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        I see it as a forest metaphor. A tree sapling starts out by growing tall and skinny, but once it gets taller than all its immediate neighbors it then branches out as wide as it can in order to...

        I see it as a forest metaphor. A tree sapling starts out by growing tall and skinny, but once it gets taller than all its immediate neighbors it then branches out as wide as it can in order to absorb more sunlight, which also has the added benefit of preventing all the plants below its canopy from being able to get as much. Reddit started out with a narrow focus, until their immediate competitors (Slashdot, Digg, etc) withered away, and now they are vastly expanding their feature set in a desperate attempt to prevent any other competitors from being able to overtake them. Unfortunately, Reddit also developed a bit of root rot in the process. :(

        9 votes
      2. [2]
        alex11
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        Is it unfair I want to blame Facebook specifically? They're the trend setters. They lied about video metrics so other platforms pivoted to video and were wondering why they didn't see the same...

        Is it unfair I want to blame Facebook specifically? They're the trend setters. They lied about video metrics so other platforms pivoted to video and were wondering why they didn't see the same financial success. They integrated Snapchat stories after Snapchat turned down their acquisition offer. Mark Zuckerberg is a sociopath and it affects the rest of the tech world

        5 votes
        1. Micycle_the_Bichael
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          IMO its fine to blame Facebook specifically for these things as long as we don't stop there. Facebook deserves some blame, but the ecosystem they exist in and the companies themselves for...

          IMO its fine to blame Facebook specifically for these things as long as we don't stop there. Facebook deserves some blame, but the ecosystem they exist in and the companies themselves for following Facebook's lead.

          2 votes
    3. raze2012
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      yup, that sounds like the redesign experience that pushed reddit further away from being a discussion platform. a UI optimized more for quick image/video consumptions than for any length of...

      yup, that sounds like the redesign experience that pushed reddit further away from being a discussion platform. a UI optimized more for quick image/video consumptions than for any length of reading.

      why would anyone go to reddit if they can just go to every other site with a clubhouse clone?

      community, in all fairness. It's the same as the Facebook argument of "why aren't people leaving en masse despite a dozen conrtoversies?". It really hard for an individual to change an established behavior; at some point the only way to lose that is for the site itself to make a huge misstep. and that tolerance is getting larger by the day.

      10 votes
    4. [3]
      stu2b50
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      This is a pretty good fit for Reddit, though. People will go to this clubhouse clone over Clubhouse/other Clubhouse clones, because they're already on Reddit, and moreso than other platforms...

      This is a pretty good fit for Reddit, though. People will go to this clubhouse clone over Clubhouse/other Clubhouse clones, because they're already on Reddit, and moreso than other platforms probably already talk about the kind of things that people talk about on Clubhouse on Reddit, i.e think about the IAMA threads.

      That's a bigger problem for Clubhouse itself - if every other platform has a Clubhouse clone, why would users of those platforms not just use their clubhouse clone?

      5 votes
      1. [2]
        Micycle_the_Bichael
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        Note: I know jack shit about Clubhouse, so this is my thought for how they could stand out over Reddit. They might already do this, they could be terrible. Idk. Potentially moderation or admin...

        Note: I know jack shit about Clubhouse, so this is my thought for how they could stand out over Reddit. They might already do this, they could be terrible. Idk.

        why would users of those platforms not just use their clubhouse clone?

        Potentially moderation or admin tools, or the community. There are a number of subreddits I am on that I would love to be able to do something like Clubhouse but some of the community members uhhhhhhh kinda suck. I can see Clubhouse still being moderately successful if they gave moderators better tools than what reddit offers and if the communities cultivated by that are better. Again, I'm not saying this is the case or will be the case, but that's my best guess for how they could potentially carve niche out.

        1 vote
        1. stu2b50
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          The Clubhouse model doesn't really have that kind of moderation issue, though. It's like a Twitch stream, but without twitch chat. And without video. Users interact by being "called in", so you...

          The Clubhouse model doesn't really have that kind of moderation issue, though. It's like a Twitch stream, but without twitch chat. And without video.

          Users interact by being "called in", so you are by default curating the people you interact with anyhow. And in general being audio only limits bandwidth and limits anonymity in a way that I think makes it difficult for bad actors to have much of an impact.

          4 votes
  2. CharlieConway
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    I wish reddit would stop trying to clone every successful app or social media feature and just focus on improving things based around what made the site popular in the first place. Anonymous text...

    I wish reddit would stop trying to clone every successful app or social media feature and just focus on improving things based around what made the site popular in the first place. Anonymous text based discussions of news and OC. Unfortunately I can't recall anything they've done in years that hasn't just been a crappier version of features from other apps.

    12 votes
  3. [3]
    AnthonyB
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    This submission and thread got me wondering if there have been any recently added features that have genuinely improved the user experience. I know there are some RES-type features that were...

    This submission and thread got me wondering if there have been any recently added features that have genuinely improved the user experience. I know there are some RES-type features that were slowly integrated, but I can't think of any big swings like this that have made the platform better than it was ten years ago. I get why they do this kind of stuff but they kind of suck at it.

    6 votes
    1. raze2012
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      Well they made an offical mobile app in that time. So that certainly opened up accssibility to many new and existing users. IIRC over half of reddit is access through mobile. Outside of that...

      I can't think of any big swings like this that have made the platform better than it was ten years ago.

      Well they made an offical mobile app in that time. So that certainly opened up accssibility to many new and existing users. IIRC over half of reddit is access through mobile.

      Outside of that (since reddit has always had many robust 3rd party choices on mobile): sadly, there are relatively few user-facing features that have been overall received well by the community

      • ability to individually filter out subreddits from r/all
      • native spoiler tags.
      • night mode
      • flairing posts, as well as letting poster choose a flair (technically a very old feature, but 2012 is still within 10 years).

      There's been many others, but features like the very controversial UI redesign, friends, reddit live, reddit live chat, the overhaul of gilding due to Reddit Premium, online status, etc. all have their share of ire or apathy as features that meld with what a typical commenter would find and enhancing of their experience. It's honestly a shame how much of reddit is carried by its 3rd party extensions. e.g.

      • organizing saved posts/comments (you can now browse saved posts by subreddit, but it requires reddit premium)
      • highlighting new comments since you last clicked a post (which is now a reddit premium feature)
      • expanding pictures/tweets without clicking into a post
      • A quick toggle between using a sub's custom CSS or the default reddit theme.
      • "infinitely" loading pages (something every other modern social media has built into their site by default)
      • The basic ability to block users without needing to report/be replied to. All 3 3rd party apps I used offered this, the site and official app doesn't.

      Many site changes mostly have to do with arranging what is and isn't shown on the front page, be it by adjusting their floating algorithm, improving spam filters and deterring trolls (e.g. setting a minimum karma to de-incentivize "negative karma farming"), or introducing stuff like r/popular to give a "more diverse front page".

      6 votes
    2. Flashynuff
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      Their subreddit search has gotten much better imo, and from what I've seen of their user onboarding they are much better at funneling people to their interests than the default subreddits ever...

      Their subreddit search has gotten much better imo, and from what I've seen of their user onboarding they are much better at funneling people to their interests than the default subreddits ever were. Idk if those were really "big swings" though. Hell, I think the better onboarding suggested by mods years before they implemented it.

      4 votes