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How the personal computer broke the human body

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  1. [10]
    asymptotically
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    After two decades of using a desktop computer almost daily, I think that my eyes have coped really well. My vision is still very good and I never really get headaches. On the other hand, spending...

    After two decades of using a desktop computer almost daily, I think that my eyes have coped really well. My vision is still very good and I never really get headaches. On the other hand, spending all day every day sitting has totally ruined my posture, and I have almost zero physical strength or stamina. I occasionally feel motivated to do something about it but that never lasts long...

    Also, the drawings by the office workers in Zuboff's book are really depressing :(

    6 votes
    1. [4]
      Adys
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      Hey, two decades using a personal desktop computer intensely here as well. Same story here: eyes coped really well, posture not so much. However, it, along with stamina, has improved a lot the...

      Hey, two decades using a personal desktop computer intensely here as well. Same story here: eyes coped really well, posture not so much.

      However, it, along with stamina, has improved a lot the past two years since I seriously picked up ice skating and started generally treating fitness more seriously. I don’t know what your sports habits are but if they’re anything like mine used to be, I vividly recommend you change them. I know it can feel like it’s too late but it’s really not.

      I invite you to read the following post of mine, which may help the motivation factor I am all too familiar with: https://tildes.net/~talk/xoh/the_one_thing_i_wish_someone_had_told_me_about_physical_activity

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      1. hook
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        Very much agree! I picked up Ring Fit Adventure and make sure to train/play at least twice a week and it is like night and day. You need to move your body for the muscles to not degrade. Just...

        Very much agree! I picked up Ring Fit Adventure and make sure to train/play at least twice a week and it is like night and day.

        You need to move your body for the muscles to not degrade. Just walking here is not enough.

        1 vote
      2. [2]
        asymptotically
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        A little late but thank you for the motivation. After reading your comment it made me want to do something but I couldn't decide what. I've ended up going for a short (30 minute) walk every...

        I vividly recommend you change them.

        A little late but thank you for the motivation. After reading your comment it made me want to do something but I couldn't decide what.

        I've ended up going for a short (30 minute) walk every morning and evening, along with setting a timer to remind me to get up and do something every hour if I'm sat at the computer. Quite surprised with how noticeable the change has been, from being exhausted after a walk a month ago to not really feeling it now.

        1. Adys
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          I'm so glad to hear that! Walks are an excellent meditative and physical addition to a day whether it's a great or lousy one. And being able to compare the before/after is so satisfying, isn't it?

          I'm so glad to hear that! Walks are an excellent meditative and physical addition to a day whether it's a great or lousy one. And being able to compare the before/after is so satisfying, isn't it?

          1 vote
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      teaearlgraycold
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      I'm only 26 but have just started needing an ergonomic keyboard due to wrist pain. It's taking a little while to get used to my Ergodox. Wrist pain's gone, though!

      I'm only 26 but have just started needing an ergonomic keyboard due to wrist pain. It's taking a little while to get used to my Ergodox. Wrist pain's gone, though!

      3 votes
      1. [4]
        hook
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        In my experience, learning to touch type and using and ergo layout helps more than a ergo keyboard. If you already have your ergodox, I assume you already touch type, but do look into layouts with...

        In my experience, learning to touch type and using and ergo layout helps more than a ergo keyboard. If you already have your ergodox, I assume you already touch type, but do look into layouts with less finger travel like Dvorak, Neo, Colemak,...

        1 vote
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          teaearlgraycold
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          The main pain points were the outer sides of my wrists. So mostly a problem of having my hands too close together.

          The main pain points were the outer sides of my wrists. So mostly a problem of having my hands too close together.

          2 votes
          1. [2]
            hook
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            The outside of my wrist hurt as well, but in my case it seems to have been the twisting in and out to reach keys. In any case, happy to hear you fixed your problem!

            The outside of my wrist hurt as well, but in my case it seems to have been the twisting in and out to reach keys.

            In any case, happy to hear you fixed your problem!

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            1. teaearlgraycold
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              There is less twisting now thanks to the Ergodox's thumb clusters. Maybe that's doing more than I thought.

              There is less twisting now thanks to the Ergodox's thumb clusters. Maybe that's doing more than I thought.

              3 votes