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I'm new to Tildes. What must I know ?
I come from reddit and I'd like to know what is basically different in the way I should post and comment.
- Are there any private jokes or slang I should know to understand everything ? (like reddit's "/s", "FBI open up" or the verb "lurk")
- Are "mods" uncompromising ?
- Every single post I saw is intelligent. Is this required ?
- There's no downvote. Do I need to make a thoughtful comment every time I disagree ?
Or better yet (IMO) vote even if you disagree so long as you feel the person you disagree with has made a worthwhile effort at getting their point across and you feel their comment is still worth reading by other people.
One of the reasons there was so much contention about even calling it a "vote" to begin with was because by doing so it potentially indicated support for the idea/opinion being expressed when that really doesn't need to be (or even should be) the case. And I still believe we should come up with a better term for it because of that. "kudos" was suggested at one point as a replacement and I really liked that idea.
Another option is to tag the comment. For example if the comment is baiting people into anger, then you should tag the comment as
flame.Thank you !
I think something to bear in mind is "this isn't reddit, and it's not a like for like replacement". It's never going to do what reddit does - memes, GIFs, cat pics and shitposting as a national sport.
And discussion/conversation here is a real thing, rather than the adversarial "I'm right, you're wrong" gotcha comments on reddit.
That's the goal anyway. Figuring out how to preserve this when Tildes grows will be the real test.
Conventional systems are designed to encourage (as a side effect) the hostility and low-effort spam. There's a lot more power in that than most people realize.
I hope tildes ends up like a giant /r/changemyview.
I think /r/gue had some great ideas for civilised debate before it went quiet.
First of all, read the docs.
Not yet, as far as I know (other than the several competing ways to address the users of the site - "Tildoes", "Tilderinos", etc.)
There are no mods, just @Deimos really. As long as you don't blatantly violate the code of conduct, it's unlikely that anything will be removed or anyone banned.
Good thing there's no downvote then, seeing how you'd abuse it as a "disagree button" ;) yes, if you want to add your opinion, write a comment.
This is probably unecessary, but in case you/anyone else missed the winking face, I assume Lynx here meant this as a joke.
The heart of the matter lies in the fact that up/downvotes weren't meant to be a agree/disagree button for comments. They were supposed to be for answering the question, "Does this comment contribute to the discussion?" This ties in with tags here on Tildes, where not so helpful comments like "This.", "I agree", or one line jokes can be tagged (although the system is still being worked on). We don't know yet how this will affect the visibility of comments but ideally interesting and well-thought out comments (even those you disagree with) should be more easily seen than something people find funny or simply agree upon.
One thing I want to emphasize from the Code of Conduct:
To add to what you've said, in my moderately-short time being here, I've seen a few discussions about using votes to increase visibility of comments you may disagree with but find intriguing/though provoking in order to increase visibility.
I like this and have been doing it myself. I hope this is a continued trend within ~ as I find that it helps foster the point of such a site - discussion. I don't have to agree with you...I may even think you're a horrible asshole for believing such a thing, but if it makes me stop and think or pushes me to add to the conversation, it gets a vote from me.
Yeah, I think downvotes are better then no downvotes but worse than alternative systems to weed out the garbage. One thing I notice on reddit is that once you get to -1 (or even just 0) the downvotes keep coming. It's like a feeding frenzy.
Just because I hadn't really seen it mentioned. Some specific language you might see is referring to tildes users as waves.
And Tilderenos, Tildians, Tildiers, Tildoes (I personally loathe that one), ~s, etc. What people refer to the collective Tildes users as is not really consistent yet and it being different almost every time someone mentions it is practically an inside joke by itself at this point. ;)
The tildarians of this site will rise against your insistence on a single name!
True tildestins transcend the need for just one name.
I'll stubbornly use "tildenizens" until there's an official word.
I hadn't seen this one yet. Out of all of them, I like this one the most :)
What's the connection there? The tilde means origin or home, but I can't think of anything that relates it to water.
I think it's from the symbol and logo just looking like a wave.
Japanese even has a "wave dash" which is pretty much just a big tilde: 〜 vs ~
Here's where "waves" originated: https://tildes.net/~tildes/1q2/what_is_a_group_of_tildes_users_called#comment-hk2