One of the issues I have with reddit is that every other comment is a joke, a meme or some other meta comment you would only understand by being on the site 24/7. It becomes tiresome very quickly....
One of the issues I have with reddit is that every other comment is a joke, a meme or some other meta comment you would only understand by being on the site 24/7. It becomes tiresome very quickly.
Having a laugh is totally fine and is a great addition, especially in its own topics. However, they shouldn't detract from serious and interesting discussion, which is one of the reasons I like this site.
That's the general idea, yeah. Even if/when the low effort posters outnumber the quality posters a hundred thousand to one that can still work, because nobody can 'cancel out' the noise labels....
That's the general idea, yeah. Even if/when the low effort posters outnumber the quality posters a hundred thousand to one that can still work, because nobody can 'cancel out' the noise labels. They'd just have a higher threshold to activate than the two it takes now.
I'd like to think that good jokes would actually rise to the top as well over the silly puns and memes. Time will tell.
Yes! Text posts feel more inviting than links or images. You're actually prompting people to generate content themselves, instead of just consuming it. Each top level comment has the potential to...
There's not much to go off of when a lot of the posts are a single image, or a single joke, for example.
Yes! Text posts feel more inviting than links or images. You're actually prompting people to generate content themselves, instead of just consuming it. Each top level comment has the potential to generate an entirely different discussion. This makes for richer and more diverse content.
This is more a question of intention and respect, though. If someone posts a threat about political situation, jokes may be seen as noise. But a topic devoted to exploring humour, or something...
This is more a question of intention and respect, though.
If someone posts a threat about political situation, jokes may be seen as noise.
But a topic devoted to exploring humour, or something more imaginative, then the responses are welcome.
Tildes is a community, not a science experiment (as far as I know) and I think that humour/imagination/even silliness are essential components of a healthy functioning community.
That's my thought. I am but a singular member of Tildes and perhaps this view is not shared across the community.
Reddit isn't one community, it's 10,000 interconnected communities. If you go on r/AskHistorians your comment will be mercilessly deleted if it even smells like a joke or a meme. Other communities...
Reddit isn't one community, it's 10,000 interconnected communities. If you go on r/AskHistorians your comment will be mercilessly deleted if it even smells like a joke or a meme. Other communities will ban you for being too serious. You can't really make a blanket statement.
The way to enjoy reddit is to find subreddits that cultivate the rules and values you like.
That's true, but the baseline still is non-serious content. This makes it difficult to find subreddits with the content you like, as well as rules and values you prefer.
That's true, but the baseline still is non-serious content. This makes it difficult to find subreddits with the content you like, as well as rules and values you prefer.
That's the baseline of the internet. Wading through all the shit to find a few oases of sanity is the process by which you find anything good on the internet. Luckily, once you find a couple of...
That's the baseline of the internet. Wading through all the shit to find a few oases of sanity is the process by which you find anything good on the internet. Luckily, once you find a couple of starting points those will usually point you in the direction of like-minded individuals and communities. It does a disservice to everyone to lump serious communities that happen to be hosted on a platform you've labelled non-serious based on the lowest common demoninator in with ragecomics and the_donald.
Reddit is a microcosm of the internet, which means there's a lot of crap, but also a lot of gold.
My main problem with Reddit jokes is that they aren't jokes, they're karma trains, trends repeated over and over again untill every comment is a reference and every contribution is meta.
My main problem with Reddit jokes is that they aren't jokes, they're karma trains, trends repeated over and over again untill every comment is a reference and every contribution is meta.
I've been thinking about recurring “What made you laugh recently?” threads where basically everything goes. I think there was one such thread in the past, and it was relatively popular. I...
I've been thinking about recurring “What made you laugh recently?”
threads where basically everything goes. I think there was one such
thread in the past, and it was relatively popular. I personally would
probably mostly post my favourite stuff from /r/YouTubeHaiku.
No matter what kind of consensus folks come to in this thread, there will always be people who reminisce about the good 'ol days of Tildes "pre-?" - before X amount of people registered, before...
No matter what kind of consensus folks come to in this thread, there will always be people who reminisce about the good 'ol days of Tildes "pre-?" - before X amount of people registered, before entertainment posts were allowed, etc. Conversely, there will be people who complain about stagnancy and the perception of inaction should things remain the same. Tildes is established enough that a percentage of users will be disappointed regardless of which decisions are/aren't made. And no amount of preparation will prevent unwanted issues from arising, be they similar to those problems which plague reddit, or something new entirely.
My question is, does Tildes have a strong vision for what it wants to be? Do these entertainment-type posts fit into that vision? If they will never be allowed, as hinted at by the quoted posting guidelines, that should be reaffirmed now so that we don't dither over an imaginary identity crisis.
That's an apt description of how communities handle changes! I believe it does, but it is also something that can and likely will change over time. Things won't be the same when the community is...
That's an apt description of how communities handle changes!
My question is, does Tildes have a strong vision for what it wants to be?
I believe it does, but it is also something that can and likely will change over time. Things won't be the same when the community is much bigger.
The viewpoint I think is too often overlooked is that you can get an interesting discussion out of almost anything if the people involved are curious. Also, I'd personally welcome high-quality...
Please post topics that are interesting
The viewpoint I think is too often overlooked is that you can get an interesting discussion out of almost anything if the people involved are curious. Also, I'd personally welcome high-quality content of primarily entertainment value simply as I expect it will carry enough depth to potentially spur an interesting discussion or an interesting question. Film buffs will be able to extract so much more from a simple action movie scene than I might, but what makes it worth posting is their willingness to talk about it so a pleb like me can learn something.
I wanted to revive this a little bit to pose a similar quality question. Can primarily-image based posts be considered "quality"? I'm a person who's hobbies really require a lot of images in order...
I wanted to revive this a little bit to pose a similar quality question. Can primarily-image based posts be considered "quality"? I'm a person who's hobbies really require a lot of images in order to make sense. I get a lot of tattoos and love researching the history of tattoos in different cultures and different art styles and discussing the different tattoo methods and what tattoos meant in a culture. Its hard to do that without pictures. Similarly, another one of my big hobbies is gardening. Basically, this question comes down to: What defines quality in groups that are intentionally "wide cast net' like ~hobbies, and how does the community decide hobbies generate enough 'high-quality' content to be valid things to post about in a group.
I believe it depends what those image-based posts consist of. If it's someone posting "look at my new cool tattoo", that's not high-quality content. If it's a post explaining a particular trend in...
I believe it depends what those image-based posts consist of. If it's someone posting "look at my new cool tattoo", that's not high-quality content. If it's a post explaining a particular trend in tattoos, using images to support the descriptions, that's high-quality content.
This post was well-received. It's not high-brow, or very intelligent, or thought-provoking – but it is light-hearted, fun, and clever. (It also had some work put into it, so it's by no means...
This post was well-received. It's not high-brow, or very intelligent, or thought-provoking – but it is light-hearted, fun, and clever. (It also had some work put into it, so it's by no means low-effort.)
My guess is: even among serious conversations that Tildes is full of, sometimes, you need to relax and enjoy yourself a little bit. That's why we have music threads, "whatcha doin" threads, and "what are your recommendations" threads.
Like in far too many cases, it depends. Content like TIL, showerthoughts, the monkey's paw and change my view don't neatly fit into the high quality definition, but are accurately described as so...
Like in far too many cases, it depends. Content like TIL, showerthoughts, the monkey's paw and change my view don't neatly fit into the high quality definition, but are accurately described as so and could be easily done here. Stuff like LifeProTips, Quotes, IaMa and legaladvice could be done, but the small size of this community would probably limit them. Stuff like fun facts and unpopular opinions could work, but it depends on us. Stuff like cursed_comments, (good) jokes, "ask tildes", AItA and confessions might work but it's not too hard for people to just end up being bland, unfunny or pandering, which in the future would bite us in the ass hard.
One of the issues I have with reddit is that every other comment is a joke, a meme or some other meta comment you would only understand by being on the site 24/7. It becomes tiresome very quickly.
Having a laugh is totally fine and is a great addition, especially in its own topics. However, they shouldn't detract from serious and interesting discussion, which is one of the reasons I like this site.
That's the general idea, yeah. Even if/when the low effort posters outnumber the quality posters a hundred thousand to one that can still work, because nobody can 'cancel out' the noise labels. They'd just have a higher threshold to activate than the two it takes now.
I'd like to think that good jokes would actually rise to the top as well over the silly puns and memes. Time will tell.
Yes! Text posts feel more inviting than links or images. You're actually prompting people to generate content themselves, instead of just consuming it. Each top level comment has the potential to generate an entirely different discussion. This makes for richer and more diverse content.
This is more a question of intention and respect, though.
If someone posts a threat about political situation, jokes may be seen as noise.
But a topic devoted to exploring humour, or something more imaginative, then the responses are welcome.
Tildes is a community, not a science experiment (as far as I know) and I think that humour/imagination/even silliness are essential components of a healthy functioning community.
That's my thought. I am but a singular member of Tildes and perhaps this view is not shared across the community.
Reddit isn't one community, it's 10,000 interconnected communities. If you go on r/AskHistorians your comment will be mercilessly deleted if it even smells like a joke or a meme. Other communities will ban you for being too serious. You can't really make a blanket statement.
The way to enjoy reddit is to find subreddits that cultivate the rules and values you like.
That's true, but the baseline still is non-serious content. This makes it difficult to find subreddits with the content you like, as well as rules and values you prefer.
That's the baseline of the internet. Wading through all the shit to find a few oases of sanity is the process by which you find anything good on the internet. Luckily, once you find a couple of starting points those will usually point you in the direction of like-minded individuals and communities. It does a disservice to everyone to lump serious communities that happen to be hosted on a platform you've labelled non-serious based on the lowest common demoninator in with ragecomics and the_donald.
Reddit is a microcosm of the internet, which means there's a lot of crap, but also a lot of gold.
I hadn't even considered those subreddits.
But you are definitely right it is difficult finding good content on the internet.
My main problem with Reddit jokes is that they aren't jokes, they're karma trains, trends repeated over and over again untill every comment is a reference and every contribution is meta.
I've been thinking about recurring “What made you laugh recently?” threads where basically everything goes. I think there was one such thread in the past, and it was relatively popular. I personally would probably mostly post my favourite stuff from /r/YouTubeHaiku.
No matter what kind of consensus folks come to in this thread, there will always be people who reminisce about the good 'ol days of Tildes "pre-?" - before X amount of people registered, before entertainment posts were allowed, etc. Conversely, there will be people who complain about stagnancy and the perception of inaction should things remain the same. Tildes is established enough that a percentage of users will be disappointed regardless of which decisions are/aren't made. And no amount of preparation will prevent unwanted issues from arising, be they similar to those problems which plague reddit, or something new entirely.
My question is, does Tildes have a strong vision for what it wants to be? Do these entertainment-type posts fit into that vision? If they will never be allowed, as hinted at by the quoted posting guidelines, that should be reaffirmed now so that we don't dither over an imaginary identity crisis.
That's an apt description of how communities handle changes!
I believe it does, but it is also something that can and likely will change over time. Things won't be the same when the community is much bigger.
On the Well we had both "jokes" and "weird" forums. I kind of like "weird." It seems more inviting than "misc".
The viewpoint I think is too often overlooked is that you can get an interesting discussion out of almost anything if the people involved are curious. Also, I'd personally welcome high-quality content of primarily entertainment value simply as I expect it will carry enough depth to potentially spur an interesting discussion or an interesting question. Film buffs will be able to extract so much more from a simple action movie scene than I might, but what makes it worth posting is their willingness to talk about it so a pleb like me can learn something.
I wanted to revive this a little bit to pose a similar quality question. Can primarily-image based posts be considered "quality"? I'm a person who's hobbies really require a lot of images in order to make sense. I get a lot of tattoos and love researching the history of tattoos in different cultures and different art styles and discussing the different tattoo methods and what tattoos meant in a culture. Its hard to do that without pictures. Similarly, another one of my big hobbies is gardening. Basically, this question comes down to: What defines quality in groups that are intentionally "wide cast net' like ~hobbies, and how does the community decide hobbies generate enough 'high-quality' content to be valid things to post about in a group.
I believe it depends what those image-based posts consist of. If it's someone posting "look at my new cool tattoo", that's not high-quality content. If it's a post explaining a particular trend in tattoos, using images to support the descriptions, that's high-quality content.
Exactly.
This post was well-received. It's not high-brow, or very intelligent, or thought-provoking – but it is light-hearted, fun, and clever. (It also had some work put into it, so it's by no means low-effort.)
My guess is: even among serious conversations that Tildes is full of, sometimes, you need to relax and enjoy yourself a little bit. That's why we have music threads, "whatcha doin" threads, and "what are your recommendations" threads.
Like in far too many cases, it depends. Content like TIL, showerthoughts, the monkey's paw and change my view don't neatly fit into the high quality definition, but are accurately described as so and could be easily done here. Stuff like LifeProTips, Quotes, IaMa and legaladvice could be done, but the small size of this community would probably limit them. Stuff like fun facts and unpopular opinions could work, but it depends on us. Stuff like cursed_comments, (good) jokes, "ask tildes", AItA and confessions might work but it's not too hard for people to just end up being bland, unfunny or pandering, which in the future would bite us in the ass hard.