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Starting Friday, dockworkers in all Swedish ports will refuse to offload Teslas, cleaning crews will no longer clean showrooms, and mechanics won't fix charging points
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- Title
- Sweden's Tesla Blockade Is Spreading
- Authors
- Morgan Meaker, Robin Andrews, Grace Browne, Niamh Rowe, Amit Katwala, Nelson C.J., Eliza Gkritsi, Vas Panagiotopoulos, Matt Burgess, Hannah Ritchie
- Published
- Nov 16 2023
- Word count
- 669 words
Does it not? It provides an economic pressure on the people who're using Teslas, which, assuming it's kept up, helps choke the long term demand for them as well as providing an immediate economic disincentive to people who think about buying one for taxi work.
@bloup noted the other things. But this is a strike, it's supposed to be a temporary labor action. Passing a subsidy for taxi drivers who don't get enough fares due to the strike is truly so far down the list of needed tasks.
Even if it was said (again see bloup's post) and said in solidarity to assume it's all that was done is putting too much faith in media.
Why should nurses and doctors be allowed to strike, people will die! We should force them at gunpoint to keep working and never let them deny their labor to a company that treats them like crap because other people's lives are more important.
Big fat /s that some people seem to think should be reality.
Labor needs to be in solidarity. Unrelated unions will often start striking in support of other unions to further turn up dials. The whole point of striking is to grind things to a halt and prove how important those workers are. Not to inconvienience as few people as possible. Doctors, nurses, teachers, and public transit workers don't strike casually. They do it only when their situations are dire because they know people depend on them. Medical staff in particular usually won't strike unless the company is treating them so poorly that it's actively hurting patients as well. I've never seen a nurse's strike just because of wages.
All (and I do mean all) of the blame for the consequences of striking belongs squarely on the hands of the bosses who refuse to negotiate in good faith before it gets to that point, playing chicken with the unions to see if they'll really do it.
It's not.
Not only is that not what crab mentality is, I never said anything of the sort. Neither did the former prime minister.
So we're going to ignore the clarifying post where you accused the other user of lecturing you instead of providing important context?
I'm not sure what you expect the former prime minister to do other than to be pristine in their words and in how they support a labor action. They are not the current prime minister and once again there is a lot of other context involved Not least of which is translation.
Even if it was the current prime minister, there are still more important priorities in addressing the impact of a labor action then the possible loss of business by a hypothetical Tesla taxi driver.
Well now, I don't know if it's okay for a crab to break an egg or not. I'm pretty sure that isn't what's happening here, but I don't know if it's okay if it were. I think you're blowing the hypothetical taxi driver way out of proportion with the reality and the impact.
Based on this comment and the edit you made to your now removed comment I'm going to interpret this reply to mean you are not reading my own comments so we can end this here.
May the crabs cook omelettes in Pareto optimality et fili et spiritu sancti or whatever. You're clearly not responding to my position.
You should be more careful when you read news articles. I want to point out, the author here does not quote him. The author merely states the former prime minister “said he’ll refuse to take a taxi if the driver is behind the wheel of a Tesla”. This is actually quite important as there’s lots of very different things that could be pretty accurately and honestly described as “the former Swedish prime minister said he’d refuse to take a taxi if it was a Tesla”. Obviously it could mean this guy in a speech or interview somewhere just kind of blurted out “I hate what Tesla is doing so much, if I called a taxi and the driver showed up in one I’d refuse the service” which is what I suspect you may be imagining. It could also mean a reporter asking him if he feels so strongly about Tesla that he’d even refuse a Tesla taxi and he responds “damn straight!”. It could also mean that same scenario but him unconfidently stammering out a “yes”, visibly anxious he will be taken out of context.
In any case, I looked into it a bit and I found this article from a few weeks ago which this author seems to have used as a source:
https://www.mestmotor.se/automotorsport/artiklar/nyheter/20231030/lofven-tanker-inte-aka-tesla-taxi-mer/
First of all, I want to point out that the entire article along with everything the former PM said about Tesla and taxis is in Swedish (what do you know, yet another layer of ambiguity!). It matches this “Facebook post” referenced in the article (the “shame on you Tesla” stuff) in the very same paragraph as the taxi stuff, as well as containing some quotes that I could totally see a more “creative” journalist representing as “he said he wouldn’t even use a Tesla taxi anymore!”. Which is basically just that he called his preferred taxi company and asked them to make a note to never send him a Tesla taxi when he calls for one.
To provide some additional context for those who wish it, the Wired article links to a Facebook post by Stefan Löfven, which the Mest Motor article also refers to, but does not link.
Stefan Löfven was the party chairman of the Swedish Social Democrats 2012 - 2021, and prime minister of Sweden 2014 - 2021. The post on Facebook is from his account, saying:
I apologize for the long Swedish section, but I prefer providing the source material easily accessible. My own translation:
Please note that the last section is a bit haphazard because the source does not parse that well syntactically. He opens the list with "these are things they are missing out on" but then not all of the bullet points follow that structure grammatically.
Oh wow, I didn’t even notice that tiny link on “said” to the Facebook post. That means the article I linked was actually unnecessary. Would have saved me a little bit of trouble!
Veering bit off topic here, but I didn't notice it either until my second look so I can't exactly fault you for it.
I wish linking etiquette was better, particularly when it comes to news sites sourcing their information. Make the link clearly visible either by formatting or by syntax, and make it clear what it refers to. Even just having the link cover the entirety of "he said on Facebook" instead of just the word "said" would have been a significant improvement.
A small anecdotal comment in a detailed response to the topic. I can see why the reporter thought it was the most important thing to mention /s
Overall a very good response though. Thanks for all the translation work!
Can you elaborate on your understanding of the Swedish labour market model in general, as well as with applications to this situation in particular?
I hope Tesla workers unionize every where.