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    1. If you had up to $55k to purchase an electric vehicle (new/used) with a range of a least 250 miles, what would you buy?

      I'm in the market for another EV. I have a Leaf currently and love it for in town driving. I want something with more range for longer trips. I've looked at Hyundai, Tesla, VW, and Ford vehicles....

      I'm in the market for another EV. I have a Leaf currently and love it for in town driving. I want something with more range for longer trips.

      I've looked at Hyundai, Tesla, VW, and Ford vehicles. No vehicle is perfect. I like the HUD of the Hyundai and the full self driving of the Tesla. I don't like the look of the Ford Mustang, and the Lightning is comfy but enormous. And since Tesla has been around for a while, there's the option of a used Model S compared to a new Model 3 (for instance).

      This doesn't necessarily have to be an advice thread - trying to find the best vehicle for me. I'm more looking for your personal pros/cons of vehicles in the EV market from your perspective.
      Like the title asks, what would you buy in today's market?

      29 votes
    2. State of EVs in Fall 2023?

      My RSS reader has turned up a lot of pessimistic articles about the state of EVs in the last few days, for example:...

      My RSS reader has turned up a lot of pessimistic articles about the state of EVs in the last few days, for example:

      https://www.thedrive.com/news/gm-is-stalling-ev-production-because-demand-is-falling-off

      https://www.thedrive.com/news/gm-delays-expanded-silverado-ev-production-orion-assembly-by-year

      https://www.thedrive.com/news/mercedes-dealers-struggling-to-sell-evs-complain-eqs-isnt-aspirational-enough

      https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/17/gm-delays-4b-ev-truck-factory-plan-by-another-year/

      https://techxplore.com/news/2023-10-vietnam-vinfast-struggles-electric-cars.html

      https://english.elpais.com/economy-and-business/2023-10-18/europe-is-looking-to-fight-the-flood-of-chinese-electric-vehicles-but-europeans-love-them.html

      Caught this YouTube video also:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZlsZwcIgpc

      Because of the car industry's obsession with XXL vehicles, Australia is thinking about increasing the size of the standard parking space

      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/15/australia-may-increase-standard-car-parking-spaces-as-huge-vehicles-dominate-the-streets

      meanwhile, given a choice, consumers are snapping up the reasonably sized and highly efficient (40mpg!) Ford Maverick

      https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-ford-maverick-is-outselling-every-midsize-truck-but-the-toyota-tacoma

      maybe those American consumers might desire a bigger truck but they can afford that one.

      When I read between the lines I'm inclined to think that there isn't any shortage of interest in EVs, but there is a shortage of interest in $80,000 EVs because very few people can afford them. What are you seeing in your neck of the woods? What intervention can you imagine that would help get the industry come to its senses?

      31 votes