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Comment on How I feel about LLM (AI) writing in ~tech
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Comment on How I feel about LLM (AI) writing in ~tech
Pepetto Link ParentHard agree on that. Maybe an "needlessly inflammatory" tag which auto-minimizes the comment? I know I'm part of this problem, but I'd enjoy a feed-back mechanism and reminder to adapt my tone...recently I've seen a rise in .... discourse temperature?
Hard agree on that.
I thought about saying something like "this sounds like the kind of thing that just gets us all upset at each other so I'm going to opt out and encourage everyone to do the same". But that's counterproductive isn't it.
Maybe an "needlessly inflammatory" tag which auto-minimizes the comment?
I know I'm part of this problem, but I'd enjoy a feed-back mechanism and reminder to adapt my tone properly to the local culture. Then again, some inflammatory comment can be justified in some situation?
maybe we could make do with a culture of being extracareful to answer very calmly and call it out (in a spoiler?) when a comment is inflammatory, so we don't get a runaway flame war. I'm not holding my breath. -
Comment on When Richard Dawkins met Claude in ~health.mental
Pepetto Link ParentFor sure. (In its defense, i did instruct it to argue for "my side") I disagree, the thing we understand better should be the reference, not the more complex less well understood thing just...Claude will say anything the person operating it is more inclined to, eheh.
For sure. (In its defense, i did instruct it to argue for "my side")
In my opinion, the burden is on you, @Pepetto, and for a simple reason: the brain is the reference, as it's more complex and (much) older than computers.
I disagree, the thing we understand better should be the reference, not the more complex less well understood thing just because it's older.
It's probably not your case, but usually those who thinks of the brain as a kind of computer tend to level everything in computer terms, in numbers, such as Silicon Valley sociopaths that believe all our society issues (socializing, poverty, injustice, crimes) are math problems that can be solved with code. When they are able to impose this distorted vision, what we see is an impoverishing of the human experience they tackled. See social networking, probably the most recent successful endeavor, which replaced in-person interaction with likes and followings and a
It is indeed not my case (i think). I'm convinced rationality help a lot to understand the world and guide toward a solution, but one should always keep in mind that models are imperfect and going all in on yout assumption without care is a recipe for pain (and unfortunately not just your own).
But I'm not sure what you are getting at... The human brain cann't be some form of organic computer, because that's a world view also held by evil people?
Many Silicon Valley Sociopath also use suncream, yet there is nothing wrong with that...
I'm confident i could easely find some horrible groupe of people who believe in an immaterial soul, would you like me to? -
Comment on When Richard Dawkins met Claude in ~health.mental
Pepetto Link ParentBut the puppet cann't do what a human can? the human inside the puppet can do what the human can, but then equating the system [human+puppet] to a [human] is completely correct... Sometime, my...but that’s the same argument that a puppet is a human being.
But the puppet cann't do what a human can? the human inside the puppet can do what the human can, but then equating the system [human+puppet] to a [human] is completely correct...
the fact that we do not understand these things are exactly the reasons why a brain is unlike a computer. We do not understand the mechanics of them fully, which is quite different from computers which we have understand whole cloth.
Sometime, my computer crashes and I don't know why... must be a magical computer.
History is full of examples of things we didn't understand but still used, until we eventually did understand... We didn't understand fluid dynamics for centuries, yet water was still a physical system obeying real laws.Just for fun I asked Claude to come up with a response
I could do the funniest thing and just have Claude answer himself:
The brain is a computational system — an information-processing device whose operations can be described computationally, even if we don't yet fully grasp those descriptions. "Computer" here is a broad functional category, not a specific engineering blueprint.
This is the consensus view in computational neuroscience, which studies "the computational principles of brain functions" without reducing the brain to a silicon PC
The burden is actually on Akir: if the brain isn't performing computation, what is it doing when it transforms sensory inputs into adaptive behaviors, learns from experience, and represents the world?That's actually better than I could have said myself... (which means I suck at philosophy, I can usually tell Claude says lots of crap when it's in my field)
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Comment on When Richard Dawkins met Claude in ~health.mental
Pepetto (edited )Link Parentwell, yes. but why would that stop it from being a computer? No-one here is saying the brain is an electrical appliance. just a different type of computer, an organic computer, duct-taped together...it is an electrochemical system. It’s far more parallel in structure than any computer system made so far.
well, yes. but why would that stop it from being a computer? No-one here is saying the brain is an electrical appliance. just a different type of computer, an organic computer, duct-taped together by natural selection.
and we still do not fully understand even basic things like why it needs to sleep or emotions.
We do have pretty good guess, the day night cycle made it advantageous to have a short low-power mode to conserve resources, and then that trait became fixed as more and more new genetic innovation ended up relying on that mechanic...
Emotion simplify complex environmental information into actionable states.Are those the correct explanation? maybe not, but "
WeI still do not fully understand" is not a very strong argument for or against anything.To be clear, I really don't think LLM are conscious (I'm not even 100% sure we humans are conscious and consciousness isn't just some weird illusion), but I think silicon could eventually become just as conscious as humans. Why couldn't it? only carbon has this magical property?
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Comment on ‘It’s shameful’: New York’s elite lash out at Zohran Mamdani’s second-home tax in ~finance
Pepetto Link ParentI'm not sure we're actually disagreeing on much policy. But I think 'less state' and 'better state' aren't the same argument, and libertarians often conflate them. Milei's Argentina cuts spending...I'm not sure we're actually disagreeing on much policy.
But I think 'less state' and 'better state' aren't the same argument, and libertarians often conflate them.
Milei's Argentina cuts spending but also gutted university funding, destroying public goods that facilitate private enterprise.
We must choose which institutions are worth it.
Nordic country show us that high tax with high effective public spending can work. Low tax and barely any public service isn't such a good deal.
Basically, corruption is what we should fight against, everything else should fall into place in time if we can nail that long term. -
Comment on ‘It’s shameful’: New York’s elite lash out at Zohran Mamdani’s second-home tax in ~finance
Pepetto (edited )Link ParentWell, kudos for expressing a view which is likely to get quite a lot of push back around here. Would I be correct to assume you are libertarian/classical liberal? No shame in that, I was too for a...Well, kudos for expressing a view which is likely to get quite a lot of push back around here.
Would I be correct to assume you are libertarian/classical liberal? No shame in that, I was too for a long time (which isn't implying I "grew out of it" or anything suggesting I know better than you, I really don't) and somewhat still am.
But Argentina's problem was mostly capital flight due to institutional instability, not welfare spending... and how do you explain the nordic countries as a counter point?You could actually hate this more: Mamdani's tax is the politically easy option, it would be much more effective to reform local zoning law and let developers build high density housing (second home owners have a pretty negligible impact on property price, not enough of them). That would actually lower property prices and it's precisely what existing homeowners, including many "leftist", fight hardest against. Everyone supports affordability until it's their neighborhood at stake (this is still the 2 chicken joke).
But if you want politics to get out of the housing market so that it can work, you should be much more angry against Zoning than against Mamdani's tax! -
Comment on Nobody understands the point of hybrid cars in ~transport
Pepetto Link ParentRelevant link about trolley-bus I agree, trolley bus are super cool and I'd live to see more of them!Relevant link about trolley-bus
I agree, trolley bus are super cool and I'd live to see more of them! -
Comment on Nobody understands the point of hybrid cars in ~transport
Pepetto Link ParentWell, yes (i've watch the video too you know), but if you build an overhead wire to collect the regenerative breaking energy, why use an onboard diesel generator at all? Just use the wire...Well, yes (i've watch the video too you know), but if you build an overhead wire to collect the regenerative breaking energy, why use an onboard diesel generator at all? Just use the wire...
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Comment on When Richard Dawkins met Claude in ~health.mental
Pepetto Link Parentnothing magical happens in our brain, it's just compute, so I have no reason to believe AI cann't be just as conscious as humans (however much conscious that actually is). But maybe the AI's way...nothing magical happens in our brain, it's just compute, so I have no reason to believe AI cann't be just as conscious as humans (however much conscious that actually is).
But maybe the AI's way of computing stuff doesn't lead to consciousness?Would you say the blink of consciousness still happens if some guy painstakingly (millions of years painstakingly) hand calculates the output of an LLM according to it's weight?
(I don't know anymore than you, I'm just bouncing off what you said)
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Comment on Nobody understands the point of hybrid cars in ~transport
Pepetto Link ParentIf you have a catenary installed to send the regenerative breaks' energy, you might as well go full electric and ditch the diesel, right?If you have a catenary installed to send the regenerative breaks' energy, you might as well go full electric and ditch the diesel, right?
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Comment on Railway solar project turns unused track space into energy in ~enviro
Pepetto LinkAt first I thought they meant to use the space on the side of each track (in the countryside, there usually about 5 meter of buffer space until the fence), so probably clever, maybe even use the...At first I thought they meant to use the space on the side of each track (in the countryside, there usually about 5 meter of buffer space until the fence), so probably clever, maybe even use the catenary to link it up to the grid...
But they actually put it in between the rail! Why?
That doesn't seem very clever, they could easely get damaged, cann't be angle toward the sun... Also, some train (most i think) don't have a septic tank, they just flush everything in between the rails...
I mean, I have to assume they must have thought about all that but I'm confused they went ahead anyway, maybe those aren't such big flaws? -
Comment on When Richard Dawkins met Claude in ~health.mental
Pepetto Link ParentI know right, I'm so embarrassed to have looked up to him as a teenager... His strident atheism come backs didn't stay cool very long.I know right, I'm so embarrassed to have looked up to him as a teenager...
His strident atheism come backs didn't stay cool very long. -
Comment on Why so many people are going "no contact" with their parents in ~life
Pepetto (edited )Link Parentedit; pointless Definnitely, we're talking past each other.edit; pointless
, I think it's time you move on.
Definnitely, we're talking past each other.
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Comment on Why so many people are going "no contact" with their parents in ~life
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Comment on Why so many people are going "no contact" with their parents in ~life
Pepetto (edited )Link ParentThe typical exemple I've seen, is a somewhat flawed 25 years old, with somewhat flawed parents. The parent repeatedly give their (unsolicited) advice to their child, instead of providing the (very...You seem to be thinking that NC typically happens after a singular incident.
The typical exemple I've seen, is a somewhat flawed 25 years old, with somewhat flawed parents. The parent repeatedly give their (unsolicited) advice to their child, instead of providing the (very sollicited) financial support for something which the parent disapprove of.
So the 25 year old child decide to go no-contact until the parent agree to their demands... This repeats until the ask is big enough that the parent don't oblige, and then the NC stays forever.
Obviously the story the kid tells everyone is better, but those are the typical events as i see them unfold...edited; removed pointless potentially inflammatory comment
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Comment on Why so many people are going "no contact" with their parents in ~life
Pepetto Link ParentYou are right, I agree.- Exemplary
That assumes parents "raise" kids for 18 years.
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Parents don’t deserve shit, they earn itYou are right, I agree.
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Comment on Why so many people are going "no contact" with their parents in ~life
Pepetto (edited )Link ParentI think the world would be better if there was stronger social stigma against that. Entitled is a bit strong, but yes, you deserve some kind of relationship with your kid when you've raised him...If I cut someone off, even for an abusive reason or maybe it's a dumb reason, they're not entitled to that relationship.
I think the world would be better if there was stronger social stigma against that.
Entitled is a bit strong, but yes, you deserve some kind of relationship with your kid when you've raised him for 18 years.Someone misreading your intent does not mean that you're supporting that misread. They're not "siding" with others.
If people mistakenly think what you writte applies to them, and make poor life choice because of it, then you are kinda responsible for not thinking harder about who might read you. (Exemple, I know some valid reasons to avoid some vacine in certain circumstance, but I'd never mention them online)
If only intent matters, life would be much easier. -
Comment on Why so many people are going "no contact" with their parents in ~life
Pepetto Link ParentOf course anyone should be able to unilaterally end a relationship, but it is completelly healthy to have very strong cultural incentive against it. Most relationship are very hard, and in our...Of course anyone should be able to unilaterally end a relationship, but it is completelly healthy to have very strong cultural incentive against it.
Most relationship are very hard, and in our quest to support victims, we forget to teach people to bear through some hardship.
My wife once threw one of my potery during a stressfull phase of our life (and many other things, won't go into details). I still maintained contact enough to allow for the opportunity to build back trust, and I'm glad I did, even if I did it mostly out of obligation at the time.
Maybe I'm the problem, but I would have NO lasting relationship if I had bought into the myth that "relationship are supposed to be easy". No! Relationship are super hard, not as hard as abuse victim have to go through, sure, but still hard, and it doesn't help us to pretend it's always easy. It gives unrealistic expectation. -
Comment on Why so many people are going "no contact" with their parents in ~life
Pepetto Link ParentGoing no-contact can be a form of emotional blackmail, it really hurts when someone you love (and for whom you invested into the relationship) pushes you away. You trully didn't realise that? You...I'm claiming going no-contact when things don't always go your way is also a form of abuse toward the parents.Please explain how it is abusive to end a relationship?
Going no-contact can be a form of emotional blackmail, it really hurts when someone you love (and for whom you invested into the relationship) pushes you away.
You trully didn't realise that?
You don't think it could damage you if someone close to you unilateraly decided to cut your relationship off? (Don't imagine it with you having done sonething awefull, imagine it's because of something trivial)You aren't siding with the abused kids against the abuser parents here... You really are siding with the abused kids AND the abuser kids against the abuser parent AND abused parent.This is not what they're doing.
How not? You cann't choose who reads your post. If your refuse to recognise that kids aren't necessarily always the victims, you unwittingly serve the abusive kids.
Half the internet is not shouting "no contact" btw these are fairly niche spaces.
Fairly niche space which are disproportionately read by people in a crisis with their familly, and could benefit from hearing a more nuance take than "parents are obviously always the abuser".
Sounds good.
not a shadow ban, just a noise tag which autocollapses the comment (IIRC), so it disincentivize growing that branch of the comment tree...
I like that it doesn't require any new tool to be develloped, just uses what we allready have.