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Comment on What are some stories of progressivism gone wrong in implementation? in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentThat's an interesting perspective I hadn't considered.A lot of the original phrases weren’t incredibly clear or descriptive, they were jargon.
That's an interesting perspective I hadn't considered.
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Comment on What are some stories of progressivism gone wrong in implementation? in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI don't view woke or wokeism that way, especially since it was a black woman who originally created it. is it being hijjacked by the right-wing? sure. but I prefer to reclaim it. However, it seems...I don't view woke or wokeism that way, especially since it was a black woman who originally created it.
is it being hijjacked by the right-wing? sure. but I prefer to reclaim it.
However, it seems that use of that word on this website has rubbed quite a lot of people the wrong way (which I am surprised considering I thought my post made it clear I am a progressive person) so live and let learn I guess?
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Comment on How do you report an entire topic? in ~tildes
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link Parentthere wasn't any real intention behind it (like "triggering or owning the libs") as I lay out here.there wasn't any real intention behind it (like "triggering or owning the libs") as I lay out here.
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Comment on What are some stories of progressivism gone wrong in implementation? in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link Parentit very well could be but I struggle to get through my reading list as it is :sweat_smile: also, I tend to read only memoirs from interesting people (Trevor Noah, Malala, etc) so I think a book...it very well could be but I struggle to get through my reading list as it is :sweat_smile:
also, I tend to read only memoirs from interesting people (Trevor Noah, Malala, etc) so I think a book like that might be too dense for me anyways.
I prefer to watch youtube videos on such things from people I trust.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link Parentoh, I was distracted and misread your message a bit, sorry. you are saying your issue is specifically with the addition of "ism" at the end of woke. :shrug: I wasn't really thinking about it much...oh, I was distracted and misread your message a bit, sorry. you are saying your issue is specifically with the addition of "ism" at the end of woke. :shrug: I wasn't really thinking about it much when I wrote the title tbh, I just already had the word progressivism so I guess I was thinking in terms of "isms" is all.
but sure, in daily practice, I rarely (if ever) use the word "wokeism" but I dont think I feel a particular way about it tbh.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI think my PoV is the attempt to turn "woke" into a negative is a successful attempt to make people feel embarrassed for caring about social issue or social justice. Just my take obviously but I...I never had an attachment to calling myself "woke" in the first place. They win because we don't follow through with progressive action, regardless of the language used. If they tried to force me to say I was "same sex attracted" rather than queer or bi or pan I'd not be losing that battle. "Woke" has been abused by the centrists/liberals as much as the right and I'm happy with it returning to the purview of the Black community as much as they would like.
I think my PoV is the attempt to turn "woke" into a negative is a successful attempt to make people feel embarrassed for caring about social issue or social justice. Just my take obviously but I think that's where I land on it.
Also that meme is a real person who was upset by Trump's inauguration and was protesting.
well TIL I learnt the backstory behind that meme. I always assumed someone was protesting outside a college campus about something and someone managed to snap a picture of them while they were trying or something.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI speak more about this in another comment so I won't repeat myself but I guess Jon Stewart unironically calling himself woke helped me get to a place where I feel comfortable doing so myself.I speak more about this in another comment so I won't repeat myself but I guess Jon Stewart unironically calling himself woke helped me get to a place where I feel comfortable doing so myself.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link Parentthe one thing I will say I liked being changed was the master/slave crap on Jenkins. especially given the slave gets killed when it is no longer being used to run a job. The subtext there could...the one thing I will say I liked being changed was the master/slave crap on Jenkins. especially given the slave gets killed when it is no longer being used to run a job. The subtext there could not be ignored, at least imo.
but the github thing felt like that scene from American Fiction where the white liberals were all patting themselves on the back for being woke and "listening to black people" when the scene was clearly showing them ignoring the perspectives of the only black people in the room.
I'd be curious if that change in master at github also came with actual changes in diversity with regards to their leadership team and etc.
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Comment on I am kinda curious about the demographics of Tildes in ~talk
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentCuriosity? I never said it did?Like really, why?
Curiosity?
I really don't understand how knowing basic aggregate data changes anything.
I never said it did?
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentThat's the sentiment I hear always that I feel like I am just incapable of understanding. I also like to just watch YT all the time and just watch guilty pleasures on there, but I also know that I...At least my experience with ADHD is that my brain is constantly, and I do mean CONSTANTLY, chattering at me to "go do this other more fun thing" or "what if this random thing happened right now?" or "<random topic change here>" etc. It takes a ton of mental effort just to keep redirecting yourself back to being on task. Like you constantly have little gremlins pulling you away from what you should be doing.
That's the sentiment I hear always that I feel like I am just incapable of understanding.
I also like to just watch YT all the time and just watch guilty pleasures on there, but I also know that I am an adult with responsibilities and if I want to be successful, I have to stop and take ownership for how I spend my time. So I might sometimes get distracted by YT for like 5-15 minutes, but then my brain wakes up and goes "wait a minute, you know this is a bad use of your time" and I change my behavior accordingly and it works. Talking to my friends, she apparently also gets that "wake up" moment but doesn't change her behavior accordingly which is where I have given up understanding why that's so hard for her.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI see. You and I are a bit different in that approach. I have no problem saying I am woke, just cause personally, the moment I have an issue saying I am woke, I feel people like Christopher Rufo...I don't say I'm woke. I try to be the definition of "woke" but I'd rather express that in different ways.
I see. You and I are a bit different in that approach. I have no problem saying I am woke, just cause personally, the moment I have an issue saying I am woke, I feel people like Christopher Rufo have won. but instead I just (when the situation calls for it) clarify it as real woke and not "twitter woke" to make the necessary distinction for people who think of the generalization embodied by this meme when they might think of what "woke" is.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI am aware that there are people attempting to co-op the word, I occasionally watch Bill Maher, Sam Harris, Triggernometry and a bunch of other reactionary "old-school liberals" who never got over...I am aware that there are people attempting to co-op the word, I occasionally watch Bill Maher, Sam Harris, Triggernometry and a bunch of other reactionary "old-school liberals" who never got over the attempts to "suppress free speech" during the George Floyd protests.
But I think I assumed that actual progressives still don't shy away from that word and are pushing back against liberals who have convinced themselves that wokeism is the death of western civilization.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI hated that. I still have my github set to make the default name for that branch to master. To me, it's like saying the "master" in master's degree is also racist. Not every use of master has...We had a similar effort on our branch naming schemes, changing "master" to "main"
I hated that. I still have my github set to make the default name for that branch to master.
To me, it's like saying the "master" in master's degree is also racist. Not every use of master has racist connotations.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentBut I specifically didnt make a claim about it. I make it clear I am relaying the claim I have heard from people in a position to make such a judgement.But I specifically didnt make a claim about it. I make it clear I am relaying the claim I have heard from people in a position to make such a judgement.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentDoes that mean you dont think or refer to yourself as "woke"? I do. I thought thats common to do with people who lean progressive.I don't think we want Tildes to be a place where people use the word "wokeism" unironically
Does that mean you dont think or refer to yourself as "woke"? I do. I thought thats common to do with people who lean progressive.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI dont think any of us here are arguing that wokeism is worth "worrying about"I dont think any of us here are arguing that wokeism is worth "worrying about"
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentThis sentences confuses me, If they are not being productive and producing very little published research, doesn't it make sense that they were forced to undergo layoffs? Or you are saying that...Unfortunately, within a few years the institution was forced to undergo layoffs and reduce staff despite producing very little published research for their efforts.
This sentences confuses me, If they are not being productive and producing very little published research, doesn't it make sense that they were forced to undergo layoffs? Or you are saying that the very little published research indicates that they are understaffed and needed more manpower instead of less?
I am not really sure if it's good or bad that the CAR was shutdown. On the one hand, America could benefit from more institutions that seek solutions on how to tackle systemic racism. On the other hand, I feel like whenever I hear black activists and protestors talk about "How to be an antiracist", I got the impression they thought negatively of the book because all it was proving useful for was as a way for white liberals who wanted to claim to be woke to add it to their reading list to prove their woke bonafides rather than having any real impact but I also did not read it so I have no idea.
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b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentGosh I would be curious to learn more about this young woman. It sounds like that thing I've heard about how people on the spectrum have this thing about "enough spoons" or something. Then again,...Gosh I would be curious to learn more about this young woman.
It sounds like that thing I've heard about how people on the spectrum have this thing about "enough spoons" or something. Then again, I have another friend who is ADHD so bad that sometimes I have to supervise her as she does desk work cause she finds the internet so inherently distracting but alot of her responsibilities require the use of the internet so she sometimes needs me to somewhat monitor her to make sure she stays on task. I gave up trying to understand why she has so much trouble staying on task a while back.
For the longest time I assumed she was just being childish and lazy but she sent me enough articles backing up her experience for me to give up and say "OK, maybe you are not being lazy but I still dont understand what is going on that you can't just stay on task :sweat_smile:"
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I am kinda curious about the demographics of Tildes
not sure if this is the appropriate sub group for this question or if its even allowed but figured I'd try. I am curious the demographics of tildes users. You can be as specific as you feel...
not sure if this is the appropriate sub group for this question or if its even allowed but figured I'd try.
I am curious the demographics of tildes users. You can be as specific as you feel comfortable.
I am in a dude in my 30s in Canada who works in software development.
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Hmmm, you're not wrong. and I think I would have been far more OK with the change if github had done real substantive changes. Like if they announced the change along with publishing hard facts as to their employee diversity and lay out how they will be improving in real ways, I think that change would have bothered me less. I would have thought "you know that master had no racial connotations in this context but if you are doing actual things too then let's just take the win I guess"
But you are just going to do this small performative change without doing anything real substantive work? I hate pretend.....I was going to say "pretend woke" but it seems that word rubs alot of people on this site the wrong way so I don't know another shorthand for "socially conscious mindset" and google gemini had no synonyms that I think really capture it so :shrug: