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Comment on Disney faces US investigation over Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion practices in ~society
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Comment on Things progressives get wrong in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI am curious, when do you think I implied it was a messaging issue? Oh, I think I see the confusion. When you said i thought you were implying that I am categorizing marginalized Americans as the...But you framed it as Dems needing to "reach out to" regular people and outreach is a communications/messaging/PR issue.
I am curious, when do you think I implied it was a messaging issue?
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You say it doesn't, but then you provided a very specific definition. That's something that can be engaged with, and "regular" does not mean that specific thing to everyone. That definition lets conversation happen. I'm not sure that's a majority of Americans but maybe it is.
Oh, I think I see the confusion.
When you said
"Regular Americans" must by its nature contrast with some "irregular" group of Americans.
i thought you were implying that I am categorizing marginalized Americans as the "irregular" Americans because they are not the "typical white cis" American, or whatever the stereotype is. What I would say instead is I view folks who are not so plugged into the news and politics as "regular Americans" because that represents most/average Americans and therefore I view it as the regular behavior of most Americans. My personal belief is folks like you and me are amongst the outliers in that we keep up with politics and news. I don't think that is something done by most.
Regarding your last bit, I can't claim that I entirely understand what you were getting at. Either your sentence structure is off or I am having reading comprehension issues. I think I get snippets but not the overall gist so best I can do is respond to snippets.
My point isn't policing language it's that you can't talk about who a group is without defining them, and pointing out that the way you used it implied a contrast with marginalized groups.
Honestly, I would assume most people would know that if you say "regular Americans" you mean people not politically engaged as that's the language used on news shows.
But it raises an excellent point. Just like the Dems weren't focusing particularly hard on civil rights issues this election and did talk about affordability of home ownership, cost of groceries, inflation in general, etc. and the post mortem has still been "Dems should focus less on civil rights issues" despite the right focusing on those issues consistently.
Another point of disagreement. Ever since 2016, Dems only really focus on "we aren't trump" and how they aren't fascist or dictator-like, especially with this last election, which I agree with but guess what, apparently voters care more about solutions to affordability than whether or not you like to cosplay as a facist. Fair or not, that appears to just be the reality of the situation. I disagree that Dems provide real actionable solutions to home ownership, cost of groceries, etc. They talk about it but I don't think anyone thinks they provided solutions that anyone think will actually make much of a dent in how the system screws over the poor and struggling. You might say "they focused on it in a more meaningful way then Republicans" but I think as long as that's the bar for the democrats, they will forever struggle to get votes.
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Comment on Things progressives get wrong in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI mean, I guess we disagree even there. To me post_below's post (and my subsequent comment) was about the fact that Democrats are failing cause they are not making proposal for real substantive...This whole thread is about messaging and communication.
I mean, I guess we disagree even there. To me post_below's post (and my subsequent comment) was about the fact that Democrats are failing cause they are not making proposal for real substantive changes that can win them more voters. Democrats want the issue to be their lack of messaging and communication cause then they can pretend their policies and plans are a winning strategy and keep serving their rich donors instead of regular people.
"Regular Americans" must by its nature contrast with some "irregular" group of Americans.
Maybe to some people, not to me. When I say regular americans, I mean people who are not politically active and just trying to get by, go to work, put food on the table. the opposite of my version of regular americans are activists in some form and more educated about the current culture wars or social issues in America. The random american who didn't even know till a month before the U.S. election that an election was coming up. For example, I know more than my immediate family about the U.S. election and the issues at play with Trump wanting to be a facist. My immediate family? had no idea and I am not American and they are. My mum apparently hasn't watched news in God knows how long.
I'm thinking you'd be better served in a messaging thread by using language that specifies rather than implies your meaning
I disagree there too. What you are doing reminds me of liberals who get too held up on the wording and I think that kinda thought process is a part of the reason why liberals keep failing. The policing of people's language will get you nowhere. And Trump's election proves that to me. Stop trying to police language and instead just focus on real substantive changes (affordability, etc). I am not saying that some people do not use problematic language but those people (who matter) will not be pleased and will be actively turned off if another group of people make a big deal about their use of language when they are going through real struggles of poverty, etc.
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Comment on Things progressives get wrong in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI think you are a little too focused on language personally and having people speak the way you see is proper and correct. You assumed that that my use of "regular Americans" was intended to...I think you are a little too focused on language personally and having people speak the way you see is proper and correct.
You assumed that that my use of "regular Americans" was intended to exclude marginalized groups (it was not). and when you misjudged what I saw saying, instead of going "b3_kind_rw1nd, when you say regular Americans, does that include marginalized people?" and then I would have said "of course" and that would have corrected the misunderstanding.
Instead you seem more focused on ensuring another person is not using the language, that to you, echos the rhetoric of the current administration. I don't think that's a winning strategy.
Sure if I was out here calling women cunts or bitches or black people the n-word or started using Nazi rhetoric like Trump does, maybe then there's cause for concern. But what I said was pretty harmless and you just took it a certain way I didn't intend.
As I said if your mom couldn't vote because of the SAVE act passing, all of a sudden she may indeed, despite her mortgage, care a lot more about her civil rights.
No she wouldn't. I don't mean to be devil's advocate or what it may be but you are assuming 2 things there: 1. she would know that her right to vote had been passed and 2. that she would ever be inclined to vote. I am not saying her perspective is correct or healthy, I am just laying out why I don't see her getting upset with losing the right to vote.
I'm not conflating "care about" with "protest on the street." There's nothing contradictory about "keeping ones head down" and caring about issues that impact their safety.
there is nuance there, depends on the marginalized community we are talking about. I would say if it's someone who is part of a marginalized group but was born in the state, they are much more willing to be loud and assert themselves if they think the government is doing things that impact their safety. I don't think they all would care to protest but perhaps a non-insignificant size would.
However, if it's someone part of a marginalized community who is a recent immigration or in the states on a green card of visa, they are much more likely to keep their head down and not want to make waves by protesting at the risk of facing repercussions for doing so. And once they become a citizen, chances are the country they came from is so much less developed, they will be happy enough with the privileges they view themselves as having (being an American citizen and privileges that come with having a shot at the American dream for themselves or their kids) that they still would not want to make waves just for the shot at achieving that.
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Don't trust Firefox to backup your session
I just got bit in the ass by this. I had my firefox open with all my open tabs as per usual. I notice that one of the tabs that I expect to exist is not there, so I went into my history and...
I just got bit in the ass by this.
I had my firefox open with all my open tabs as per usual. I notice that one of the tabs that I expect to exist is not there, so I went into my history and noticed for some reason, it covers only 2 days of history.
ducking told me to open firefox in troubleshoot mode to see if that would get me more of my history back. It did not but what it wound up doing is losing the session that had my open tabs. I closed firefox and re-opened it, all my open tabs gone. I power down my machine and started it back up, same story.
long story short, I am now following the recommendations on here to create regular backups of my firefox session cause apparently that is something that can be lost.
Btw the fact that is not a default feature of firefox to create multiple backups of your open session and deletes backups if you close and re-open is the dumbest logic imo
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Comment on Things progressives get wrong in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link Parenteither I am misunderstanding you or we don't agree. Your first part is saying that regular Americans includes marginalized Americans. that I can agree with. But I think you are further trying to...either I am misunderstanding you or we don't agree.
Your first part is saying that regular Americans includes marginalized Americans. that I can agree with.
But I think you are further trying to state that the majority of those regular marginalized American families also care about their civil rights. That's simply an optimistic assumption you are making imo. Some care about their civil rights, some care more just about getting by, being able to afford a roof over their heads and a meal for their families. You might make the case that the only way that the regular marginalized Americans can get those is by advocating for their civil rights and maybe you are right but in my experience, marginalized/immigrant families are more likely to want to keep their heads down, not cause trouble and just get by and be able to provide the basic necessities for their family.
Basically I agree with the sentiment shared here
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Comment on Things progressives get wrong in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Linkwell you took the wind right out my sales buddy boy. I had a call with my mum tonight who lives in Texas and usually when it comes to politics I let her talk without me interrupting cause I feel...well you took the wind right out my sales buddy boy.
I had a call with my mum tonight who lives in Texas and usually when it comes to politics I let her talk without me interrupting cause I feel like too many people want to shout over others when it comes to politics instead of just keeping their mouth shut and listening and understanding and it was a fascinating conversation.
the gist of it seemed to be that one of her colleagues at work (or a colleagues' kid) apparently tried to get votes for the dems in the last election by talking about how if the dems dont win, certain rights are not a guarantee (the ones she mentioned was abortion and legal marriage).
my mum's response was apparently "if you really want an abortion, you can just go to Mexico and get one" and for legal marriage "marriage ain't all that, and lots of straight couples dont get married, they just are common-laws, just do that". and keep in mind, she has gay friends and likes them.
her response was "I can barely afford to pay my mortgage" and she rattled off other general affordability issues such a medical insurance stuff.
and all I could think is, "yea, her response fits entirely with what Jon Stewart keeps saying every Monday on TDS since the end of the election". what really hurts people is struggle and poverty. My mum apparently doesnt even watch the news. For all I know she doesn't even know Trump tried to overthrow the government. her only perspective is "the system doesn't work and I can see this in how the medical system is fucked and how I can barely afford my home".
So yea, I am not necessarily against identity politics. It's sometimes a good and necessary thing cause it allows for marginalized voices and people to be illuminated. and civil rights are obviously important but if the dems dont try to reach out to the regular american who are just trying to get by, it seems like they may never have the votes of the regular people who quite frankly just arent plugged into civil rights and political stuff.
But as long as dems pretend that their problem is just a messaging issue and not what AOC outlined quite clearly here, they will always struggle to get votes and will act surprised after each election and "soul" search which apparently just means insisting that anything except their corporate capture is the issue.
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Comment on Well this terrifies me: Steve Bannon preparing for a third Donald Trump US presidency in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentYes because trying to be mindful of the undecided voters and bringing in Cheney was such a winning strategy for last year's election.As much as I want the progressive wing to ascend, wouldn't this alienate our "undecided voters", moving the Overton window toward fascism even faster? The so-called undecided voters, in this country, seems decidedly conservative when compared to our progressives.
Yes because trying to be mindful of the undecided voters and bringing in Cheney was such a winning strategy for last year's election.
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Comment on Well this terrifies me: Steve Bannon preparing for a third Donald Trump US presidency in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentYou are too singularly focused on just replacing problematic elected democrats. I gave a whole spiel about what they can try to do now to be a real opposition party and your mind just focused on...So we're talking 2026 then? That's the next chance to replace elected Democrats.
You are too singularly focused on just replacing problematic elected democrats. I gave a whole spiel about what they can try to do now to be a real opposition party and your mind just focused on the bit about replacing the corrupt Democrats.
As for what they can do now, I am not a political strategist, but all I can say is if McConnell had been in the same position they are now, I have a hard time imagining him just throwing his hands in the air and telling his donors "welp sorry guys, we lost the election, guess most I can do is sit on my thumbs and just wait till we get more republicans elected who will advance our agenda".
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Comment on Well this terrifies me: Steve Bannon preparing for a third Donald Trump US presidency in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link Parentgive Schumer and Pelosi and all other congress people who believe that insider training should be legal a boot out of the back door. Stop suppressing the progressive wing, allow the people's...- Exemplary
give Schumer and Pelosi and all other congress people who believe that insider training should be legal a boot out of the back door. Stop suppressing the progressive wing, allow the people's desires to actually be heard. and let's see what happens after all that change before yall just throw your hands in the air and act like nothing can be done.
I heard a sentiment someone expressed (I think on Zeteo but not entirely sure). being in the minority didn't stop McConnell from doing everything he could to block Obama. He poured his hear and soul into making Obama's life hell 24/7
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Comment on How come the mods on here keep editing the titles of my post to be exactly what they already were? in ~tildes
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link Parenthmm, I don't think so given I will only login to tildes from my desktop and that's more of a phone feature.hmm, I don't think so given I will only login to tildes from my desktop and that's more of a phone feature.
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Comment on Do topic logs get deleted after a period of time? in ~tildes
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI meant they can change the title, that's part of what I post. and I am not necessarily against that, sometimes they think of a better way to word it, but having a permanent record of a title...Mods (ie. users with certain permissions) cannot edit what you post. They'll never gain the ability to edit your comments on the site. They can't even remove comments right now, though such an option could come in the future.
I meant they can change the title, that's part of what I post. and I am not necessarily against that, sometimes they think of a better way to word it, but having a permanent record of a title change specifically seems kinda important for transparency imo.
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Comment on How come the mods on here keep editing the titles of my post to be exactly what they already were? in ~tildes
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI kinda agree but it still shows up in the logs, that's what confusing me. the "from" and "to" are the same sometimes. I am just curious why they keep doing that. Seems odd to do.That's... that's not editing, then lol.
I kinda agree but it still shows up in the logs, that's what confusing me. the "from" and "to" are the same sometimes.
Either way, I'm not sure why you'd care if it's the same to begin with?
I am just curious why they keep doing that. Seems odd to do.
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How come the mods on here keep editing the titles of my post to be exactly what they already were?
I was going to get screenshots to backup what I am talking about but apparently they aren't kicking around in the system forever so most of the evidence is gone but I often see mycketforvirrad...
I was going to get screenshots to backup what I am talking about but apparently they aren't kicking around in the system forever so most of the evidence is gone but I often see mycketforvirrad editing the title of a post I make to exactly what it already was while they are editing tags as they see fit.
What's up with that?
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Comment on Do topic logs get deleted after a period of time? in ~tildes
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link Parentthats a bit....unsettling. I mean, I guess I shouldn't care too much. I am careful when talking on here that nothing can lead back to my real identity so even if a mod pulled a spez and started...thats a bit....unsettling.
I mean, I guess I shouldn't care too much. I am careful when talking on here that nothing can lead back to my real identity so even if a mod pulled a spez and started editing stuff in a misleading way, it wouldn't impact my real life but still, the idea of a mod being able to edit what I write here and have that transparency be short-term is a bit bothersome.
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Comment on Well this terrifies me: Steve Bannon preparing for a third Donald Trump US presidency in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link ParentI am willing to bet money at this point that if Trump did wind up succeeding in running and winning, all democrats would do is show up with those signs again and pretend that is real opposition...I am willing to bet money at this point that if Trump did wind up succeeding in running and winning, all democrats would do is show up with those signs again and pretend that is real opposition
Hard to believe that democrats used to be the party of civil rights and progress. I feel like with the corporate capture that has happened, we could have a legit resurrection of MLK Jr inspiring people and leading a movment and the DNC would still be too scared of aligning with someone who is too woke and radical and Schumer would attempt to appease republicans to "keep the peace".
I wish I had your faith, but the man is on a call asking for a government official to "find 12,000 votes" and attempted a coup and Republicans still don't have the spin to call an insurrectionist an insurrectionist and let him get away with it.
And what saddens me is I think this is all due to the fact that the DNC pushed out bernie in 2016 and supported Clinton and I am willing to bet they still dont regret that and are deluding themselves that the only reason she didnt win is cause she is a woman and cause Trump was able to rally the racists.
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Do topic logs get deleted after a period of time?
I was going to post a question regarding the topic logs but looking through my old posts, I see that much less than I remember have any topic logs on them. I can't tell if I am imagining that alot...
I was going to post a question regarding the topic logs but looking through my old posts, I see that much less than I remember have any topic logs on them.
I can't tell if I am imagining that alot more of them used to have topic logs or Deimos coded it to be a temporary record of the changes that the mods here make?
and if so, why temporary?
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Comment on Well this terrifies me: Steve Bannon preparing for a third Donald Trump US presidency in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd Link Parentim just amazed that there is someone on tildes of all places that prefers social media reddit instead of forum reddit.im just amazed that there is someone on tildes of all places that prefers social media reddit instead of forum reddit.
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Comment on Well this terrifies me: Steve Bannon preparing for a third Donald Trump US presidency in ~society
b3_k1nd_rw1nd (edited )Linkmy last post about this, comments seemed mix. some folks thought that no way would a third term happen, some thought it was possible. After seeing Mahmoud Khalil getting arrested in a clear...my last post about this, comments seemed mix. some folks thought that no way would a third term happen, some thought it was possible.
After seeing Mahmoud Khalil getting arrested in a clear violation of first amendment and that apparently the administration can effectively ignore a judge ordering them to turn a plane of migrants around just by dismissing a judge as a "radical left judge", I don't know if I trust anymore that the legal system can handle whatever scheme Bannon is cooking but maybe I am being needlessly alarmist. I have no idea anymore.
Link to Old Reddit Since my link got changed to point to new reddit
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Well this terrifies me: Steve Bannon preparing for a third Donald Trump US presidency
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yea, cause its the right that faces true cancel culture......
At this point, I fully expect them to launch a lawsuit against Nikole Hannah-Jones and Kimberlé Crenshaw :facepalm: