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Comment on What operating system do you use? in ~comp
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Comment on What song has your favourite lyrics, and why? in ~music
kon_jelly LinkWhile there are many songs that I think are better lyrically, there is one lyric from “Semi-charmed Life” by Third Eye Blind that has always stuck with me: “The four right chords can make me cry”...While there are many songs that I think are better lyrically, there is one lyric from “Semi-charmed Life” by Third Eye Blind that has always stuck with me:
“The four right chords can make me cry”Something so powerful from such a simple line that speaks to the power of music (and particularly modern pop music) and the emotional connection that we have with it. Does the song compare with the poetry in songs by Led Zeppelin or the Doors? Not even close. But it’s always the first thing I think of when someone asks me my favorite lyrics.
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Comment on What song has your favourite lyrics, and why? in ~music
kon_jelly Link ParentSuch an amazing song! The whole show is full of just amazing writing but I agree that song is a standout.Such an amazing song! The whole show is full of just amazing writing but I agree that song is a standout.
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Comment on Tesla hits Model 3 manufacturing milestone, hours after deadline in ~transport
kon_jelly Link ParentI didn't say that anywhere. I'm saying your numbers have to be off if Ford is only producing 4,000 cars per week at a plant level. Again you're missing the point. The automation didn't "not work"...But claiming Ford is having trouble figuring out how to build cars, but Tesla isn't, is just insane.
I didn't say that anywhere. I'm saying your numbers have to be off if Ford is only producing 4,000 cars per week at a plant level.
Your argument about stopping the production process because it doesn't work being the same as slowing down to maintain quality doesn't make any sense either. By that logic, if one of their machines literally fell apart, it would still count as slowing down to maintain quality.
Again you're missing the point. The automation didn't "not work" - it worked fine and cars were produced under it. The problem was that the automation they had couldn't grow with the expanded production, so they slowed down/halted production to make it better. Which is exactly what you said they wouldn't do.
If the process didn't work then what production did they have to stop? Wouldn't it have been stopped already?
Anyway, I'm done here. I clearly know nothing about the field I work in.
I thought you said you weren't in manufacturing?
Oh, by the way, dust doesn't care about the aesthetics of the tent. It's still going to get everywhere.
Right, because I was referring to aesthetics.
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Comment on Tesla hits Model 3 manufacturing milestone, hours after deadline in ~transport
kon_jelly Link ParentYou said an average assembly line can put out 5,000 cars per week when running two shifts working 40 hours per week, but Ford puts out an average of 4,000 per week per factory, not per assembly...I'm also not sure what your argument about Ford is trying to say, but thank you for confirming what a real car company can do sustainably.
You said an average assembly line can put out 5,000 cars per week when running two shifts working 40 hours per week, but Ford puts out an average of 4,000 per week per factory, not per assembly line. I guess it's possible that every factory has a single assembly line, but considering many of them make more than one type of vehicle I don't think that's likely.
I guess I don't understand your criticism of Tesla's production when Ford is apparently seriously under-producing according to your own numbers.
The question just comes down to what kind of corners they're willing to cut to hit those targets. We already know they're building under a fucking tent.
I addressed this in another comment, but it's not like they have a fucking circus tent in a parking lot.
Also, Musk shut down their overemphasis on automation because it didn't work not because it was moving too fast to maintain build quality.
So he slowed production to assess and correct quality? But I thought you said he wouldn't do that?
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Comment on Tesla hits Model 3 manufacturing milestone, hours after deadline in ~transport
kon_jelly Link ParentI didn't mean to imply that you personally were a Tesla hater, but I definitely see why I came across that way. My only real point was that there was a lot of doubt when the last milestone was...I didn't mean to imply that you personally were a Tesla hater, but I definitely see why I came across that way. My only real point was that there was a lot of doubt when the last milestone was reached but Tesla kept performing.
Now, those are really different from making cars, but I'm pretty sure the notion of cramming for a deadline is transferable.
It is an assumption that "cramming" is happening. While that may be the narrative that is being pushed in the news reports of this milestone, we don't really know if it is a result of cramming or the result of continued growth and improvement.
The tent is the perfect illustration how temporary this is. It's not that the tent resembles a refugee camp or not... It's the fact that the solutions designed to hit this milestone are SO temporary that they were housed in a temporary building structure.
I don't know what Tesla's plans are, but it's entirely possible that the tent is only being used while other, more permanent solutions are under construction. If that is the case the tent only represents the fact that they were able to increase production before permanent capacity was completed. I don't know if that is truly what is happening, but it is a possibility and in my opinion just as much of a possibility as anything else.
But there are clear signs that this milestone was hit using non-sustainable methods that are gonna bite them in the ass very shortly.
And I'll reiterate that the same thing was said when they hit 3000. The "clear signs" don't seem to come from inside Tesla, but from speculating reports outside of the company. You could absolutely be correct, I just don't think we know for sure and so far Tesla has been able to surprise most of their doubters.
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Comment on Tesla hits Model 3 manufacturing milestone, hours after deadline in ~transport
kon_jelly Link ParentThey could also have performance or goal-based incentives.They get the satisfaction of proving "haters" wrong.
They could also have performance or goal-based incentives.
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Comment on Tesla hits Model 3 manufacturing milestone, hours after deadline in ~transport
kon_jelly Link ParentThere has been nothing posted that says employees aren't receiving additional benefits for hitting milestones - unless someone with actual information says what is going on we can only speculate.There has been nothing posted that says employees aren't receiving additional benefits for hitting milestones - unless someone with actual information says what is going on we can only speculate.
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Comment on Tesla hits Model 3 manufacturing milestone, hours after deadline in ~transport
kon_jelly Link ParentAlthough they are both making automobiles, I don't think you can compare an assembly line from a major ICE manufacturer and Tesla's assembly line. They are going to be inherently different. Plus...Although they are both making automobiles, I don't think you can compare an assembly line from a major ICE manufacturer and Tesla's assembly line. They are going to be inherently different.
Plus quick math on Ford's numbers (6.6 million cars produced in 2017 in 31 assembly factories) give me approximately 4000 cars produced per week on average.
And I can't imagine Musk would take kindly to 'we need to slow down and be more careful'
Which is exactly what he did when he shut down an assembly line to work on the automation issues they were having.
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Comment on Tesla hits Model 3 manufacturing milestone, hours after deadline in ~transport
kon_jelly Link ParentAnd the haters said the same thing when they hit 3000 cars per week. The fact is that you have to hit it once before you can maintain it. Will they slip to 4500 this week? Maybe, but it's not like...There's been some moving of the goalposts, here. The initial deadline was to produce 5000 cars in a week, meaning, to have ramped up production to a point where pumping up 5000 cars a week was sustainable.
And the haters said the same thing when they hit 3000 cars per week. The fact is that you have to hit it once before you can maintain it. Will they slip to 4500 this week? Maybe, but it's not like they're going to go back to 1000. It's the first milestone on the path.
What Tesla essentially did was scramble and work as hard as they could to meet that deadline irregardless of sustainability. Building an assembly line out of scrap parts under a tent in the parking lot isn't a sustainable production pipeline.
You make it sound like they threw together a bunch of crap and are churning out lower quality production. Here is what the assembly line in the tent actually looks like. It's a lot more sophisticated than the "tent" terminology evokes.
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Comment on Password manager suggestions? in ~tech
kon_jelly Link Parent1Password is the gold standard of password managers in my opinion. Others are definitely good, but nothing comes close to the polish of 1Password for me.1Password is the gold standard of password managers in my opinion. Others are definitely good, but nothing comes close to the polish of 1Password for me.
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Comment on Who's your team? in ~sports
kon_jelly LinkFavorite sport is baseball, and my favorite team is the Atlanta Braves. Been a fan since I was born - grandparents lived in Atlanta and my grandfather supplied equipment to the team. He made sure...Favorite sport is baseball, and my favorite team is the Atlanta Braves. Been a fan since I was born - grandparents lived in Atlanta and my grandfather supplied equipment to the team. He made sure I grew up a fan (and it was so nice to watch every game on TBS at the time).
For NFL I grew up a Redskins fan, but a few years under Dan Snyder's ownership caused me to jump ship. I landed on my #2 team, the Jacksonville Jaguars, but I have been watching less and less football recently. I'd be surprised if I watch more than a game or two this year. I find it hard to support with all of the data about head injuries and with the league seemingly covering up the problem.
Don't really have favorites in any other sports, although I do enjoy watching basketball and tennis.
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Comment on Who's your team? in ~sports
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Comment on George Lucas Would Have Set Third Star Wars Trilogy in 'Microbiotic World' Linked to Midi-Chlorians in ~movies
kon_jelly Link ParentI'm curious what you mean by the "new community approach to film-making." Everything I have seen about the making of Episode 1 was that he rushed a script out just before production was to start...I'm curious what you mean by the "new community approach to film-making." Everything I have seen about the making of Episode 1 was that he rushed a script out just before production was to start and that everyone involved in the production were essentially "yes men," leading to absolutely no alternative ideas to Lucas'. I've never come across anything about the prequels not being completely his vision.
One of the reasons that the originals were so good was that Lucas wasn't allowed free reign. The story on the creation of the original Star Wars was that it was a disaster until his wife (an Oscar-winning editor) got her hands on it and completely changed the structure. And what is widely considered the best film in the entire saga, Empire Strikes Back, was neither written nor directed by Lucas.
I think Lucas' strength was in the creation of the overall universe and story, but the details were not his strong suit. And it sounds like his plan for the sequels was going to be a delve into the details, which I'm pretty sure would have been a disaster of epic proportions.
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Comment on Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee in ~transport
kon_jelly Link ParentI'm pretty sure there'd be an SEC investigation if he was lying. It's just something you're not allowed to do when you're a public company, and it's fairly aggressively prosecuted.While sabotage can always happens, the fact that he doesn't disclose the person in the e-mails and the following paragraph makes me think he's just pandering for his fanboys.
I'm pretty sure there'd be an SEC investigation if he was lying. It's just something you're not allowed to do when you're a public company, and it's fairly aggressively prosecuted.
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Comment on What sites do you check in the morning? in ~talk
kon_jelly LinkI start with RSS and Twitter. Reddit is usually next, but today I came here first as well. 😊I start with RSS and Twitter. Reddit is usually next, but today I came here first as well. 😊
I decided years ago that I was tired of fighting my computer and would rather focus on the content/work rather than spending time configuring a machine so that I could get to the content/work. MacOS is the only system that fits that bill for me. I used to run Linux and Windows as separate machines or in vm's on my Mac but now I'm Mac-only.