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Comment on Why is there no word for please in the Nordic languages – are their speakers simply more direct, or is politeness expressed in ways outsiders may not immediately recognise in ~humanities.languages
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Comment on Why is there no word for please in the Nordic languages – are their speakers simply more direct, or is politeness expressed in ways outsiders may not immediately recognise in ~humanities.languages
sotolf Link ParentI'm an autistic as well, I have learned to mask pretty well, so I get through the days. I'm now living in Austria, and it was kind of difficult to readjust to showing politeness a bit differently....I'm an autistic as well, I have learned to mask pretty well, so I get through the days. I'm now living in Austria, and it was kind of difficult to readjust to showing politeness a bit differently.
A lot of this comes from the material conditions, Norwegian and Scandinavian countries in general tend to lean more towards collectivism rather than individualism, and I have to say it's nice for a person like me who struggle with social interaction, keep on wanting to understand, but never quite getting there.
Showing politeness have a lot to do with not impose with others and it might be what someone may interpret as being cold and standoffish. Personally I don't think that autism, at least the version I have is a handicap really, I can do what everyone else does, when I have internalised the pattern of a interaction with known people I can float along pretty well, and this is easier when I'm not forced into conversations with people I don't know at a high pace.
I actually didn't notice as much before I got here to a country with different rules, it's more challenging, random people may stop me on the street and just want to talk, I have found most people to be quite accommodating though, the first times I may come across as a weirdo, but most people worth talking to usually will clock that I just am like I am, and when I'm being too blunt or the mask slips, they usually give me the grace of being kind about it.
What all the ramblings amount to I guess is that I'm kind of having the feeling that it's easier to thrive for a person with autistic traits in a society that focus more on collectivism, working together generally leads to people being more up to give you a chance, and bluntness is prized more than talking oneself up. I find that I'm horrible at advertising my skills, and I really dislike it when others do.
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Comment on Why is there no word for please in the Nordic languages – are their speakers simply more direct, or is politeness expressed in ways outsiders may not immediately recognise in ~humanities.languages
sotolf Link ParentI'm from the Eastern part, out on the country side between Oslo and Gjøvik, pretty much central eastern norway kind of farmers / communist sounding dialect (Hadelandsdialekt).I'm from the Eastern part, out on the country side between Oslo and Gjøvik, pretty much central eastern norway kind of farmers / communist sounding dialect (Hadelandsdialekt).
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Comment on Why is there no word for please in the Nordic languages – are their speakers simply more direct, or is politeness expressed in ways outsiders may not immediately recognise in ~humanities.languages
sotolf Link ParentAs a fellow Norwegian, tagging on a "takk" at the end of the request feels rude to me. I don't know completely why, but it kind of feels like you're expecting someone to do something for you, and...As a fellow Norwegian, tagging on a "takk" at the end of the request feels rude to me. I don't know completely why, but it kind of feels like you're expecting someone to do something for you, and unless that is their purpose as a job or something it just doesn't feel right. Usually what feels better is to use the conditional forms and phrase it as something that could happen if they wish to help you "Kan jeg få en kaffe?" or "Kunne jeg ha fått en kaffe?"
Politeness in general is not something that is carried through the language, and the words you use in my opinion, it's about the way you hold yourself, what you ask for, what you do yourself rather than asking others for, not asking others to do a trivial task that you can do for yourself, not imposing on others is what politeness that really matters.
Often things like excessive use of polite phrases, is something that is seen with suspicion, if someone is trying to ingretiate themselves to you by keeping on being sycofantic, something is wrong, they either are mocking you, or they are trying to manipulate you into something.
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Comment on A skeptical overview of AI and consciousness in ~humanities
sotolf Link ParentYeah it learns different ways of writing because it's a tool to specifically deal with language, it's all it really does it's a language machine, that creates really convincing language. That...Yeah it learns different ways of writing because it's a tool to specifically deal with language, it's all it really does it's a language machine, that creates really convincing language. That makes it so easy for us to anthropomorphize and put a lot of more into it than what it's really doing. I had to test it out for work and have to use it some times to keep leadership happy, and yeah, it's very easy to buy into the illusion, I feel the drag to do it myself, because everything that has language up until now has been a human with thoughts and feelings and all that comes with being a human, so we automatically layer that on top.
From as far as I understand it though that is only a complex form of pareidolia, where we see faces in everything, it's our pattern seeking minds finding stuff where there really isn't one because of heuristics that have treated us well so far.
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Comment on Zig creator weighs in on the Bun Rust rewrite in ~comp
sotolf Link ParentI really enjoyed the read, kind of felt honest and still reasonably kind while at the same time not really holding back too much.I really enjoyed the read, kind of felt honest and still reasonably kind while at the same time not really holding back too much.
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Comment on What games have you been playing, and what's your opinion on them? in ~games
sotolf LinkI have been playing Octopath Traveler II for a while now, 85 hours into the game, and right before the last chapter for all of the characters, but I'm feeling kind of burnt out on it, so I needed...I have been playing Octopath Traveler II for a while now, 85 hours into the game, and right before the last chapter for all of the characters, but I'm feeling kind of burnt out on it, so I needed a break with another game.
So I started playing Shin Megami Tensei IV on the 3DS, and so far it's been a real hoot, it's fun to fuse demons and slowly getting stronger, I've just gotten to the part when the game really starts opening up a bit, and I'm really impressed with how cool this game is on the system, it really made me start wonder, do we actually need something bigger than the 3DS, Something about the restricted system really brings out fun different things that just better graphics never did, compromises making things interesting in a lot of places, things like more mixed media with using 3D where it makes sense, and then other parts as 2D sprite-ish things, I'm really enjoying coming back into some 3DS stuff again, and it's really nice to have a system that is small enough to be easy to put in a pocket, and also something I'm not afraid of bringing along, as cool as the switch lite is, it's kind of huge, and I always worry about the sticks (mine are already kind of wonkey) when I stuff it in a backpack.
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Comment on No, artificial intelligence is not conscious in ~tech
sotolf Link ParentYeah, that is true, it probably isn't an issue with better versions. I can't say I have experience with them, but it might be that I have heard them and not understood that they were LLM, which...Yeah, that is true, it probably isn't an issue with better versions. I can't say I have experience with them, but it might be that I have heard them and not understood that they were LLM, which would support your point even more.
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Comment on No, artificial intelligence is not conscious in ~tech
sotolf Link ParentThen it's pretty easy, then it's not "Someone claims to not have an inner voice" which sounds extremely dismissive, and like you think that it's not something that is actually taking place, just...Then it's pretty easy, then it's not "Someone claims to not have an inner voice" which sounds extremely dismissive, and like you think that it's not something that is actually taking place, just that we are delusional people who don't even know our inner thought processes, I'm sorry I'm harping on this and keeping on it, but it's something that I come across enough that it really irks me.
"Some people don't have an inner voice" works just as well without the dismissive tone. There are also people who don't see pictures in their mind, which is a stronger version of aphantasia, but the fact that we don't notice that, and that nobody can really point at me and saying "That person doesn't have an inner voice" shows us that this isn't a deliberating syndrome or some kind of mental issue, but just a normal variation in how our brain works, it's a funny quirk I guess, but you don't know how much it blew my mind when I realised that the voice over when people think in their head in movies actually is how many people experience something in their head. Having a voice in my head would be really disconcerting to me personally, since it's something I've never experienced coming from anywhere inside my head (I also can't imagine voices in general)
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Comment on No, artificial intelligence is not conscious in ~tech
sotolf Link ParentWe don't just claim that we don't have internal monologues, I've never had one. Just because you have one doesn't mean that everyone has to, that's kind of like saying that some people claim that...We don't just claim that we don't have internal monologues, I've never had one. Just because you have one doesn't mean that everyone has to, that's kind of like saying that some people claim that red is their favourite colour, just because yours is blue.
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Comment on No, artificial intelligence is not conscious in ~tech
sotolf Link ParentI find the voices uncanny though, There is always something in the cadence, or in how it just doesn't get the variation and stuff quite right, at least the ones that plague youtube videos.I find the voices uncanny though, There is always something in the cadence, or in how it just doesn't get the variation and stuff quite right, at least the ones that plague youtube videos.
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Comment on No, artificial intelligence is not conscious in ~tech
sotolf Link ParentYeah, LLMs are just really good text imitators, and since we are communicating so much through text, and the LLMs are sycophantic and sound really confident and erudite, I think it's just so much...Yeah, LLMs are just really good text imitators, and since we are communicating so much through text, and the LLMs are sycophantic and sound really confident and erudite, I think it's just so much easier to anthropomorphize and through that get the impression that they are conscious.
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Comment on Are there any video games that are/were popular in your country, that the rest of the world hardly knows about? in ~games
sotolf Link ParentCool, I didn't know that podcast, but that will be one I will be trying out, thank you :) Yeah we had quite a lot of time in Lillehammer Olympics as well, but I was kind of guessing that that was...Cool, I didn't know that podcast, but that will be one I will be trying out, thank you :)
Yeah we had quite a lot of time in Lillehammer Olympics as well, but I was kind of guessing that that was more popular outside of scandinavia as well, but maybe not, since some of the different sports there aren't that popular outside of Scandinavia, like biathlon :)
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Comment on Are there any video games that are/were popular in your country, that the rest of the world hardly knows about? in ~games
sotolf Link ParentYeah, norwegian here, and we had dozens hours of Elastomania here too, it was everywhere, installed on school computers, that and Deluxe Ski jump, which I at least never hear anywone talk about :)Yeah, norwegian here, and we had dozens hours of Elastomania here too, it was everywhere, installed on school computers, that and Deluxe Ski jump, which I at least never hear anywone talk about :)
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Comment on What games have you been playing, and what's your opinion on them? in ~games
sotolf LinkI've been playing Octopath Traveller II for some weeks now, slowly making progress, and 60 hours in I'm still really enamoured with the game, I love the graphics, which reminds me of how it felt...I've been playing Octopath Traveller II for some weeks now, slowly making progress, and 60 hours in I'm still really enamoured with the game, I love the graphics, which reminds me of how it felt playing rpgs in the 90s, The music is awesome, and I really enjoy most of the characters. The battle system is also fun with a mix between the bravely series, and a bit of persona combat in there. I'll probably be going on with this for quite a while still :)
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Comment on What games have you been playing, and what's your opinion on them? in ~games
sotolf Link ParentThere are quite some games coming out now based on minecraft mods, which is quite cool, Vintage story is very much inspired by terra firma craft from what I can see, with the knapping and clay...There are quite some games coming out now based on minecraft mods, which is quite cool,
Vintage story is very much inspired by terra firma craft from what I can see, with the knapping and clay forming being very similar, and the slow deliberate progress, I've been really enjoying that one and it's nice to see that it's found another niche :)
Then there is Apico and Snacktorio by TNgineers, which are based on forestry, and buildcraft, Apico is a great bee breeding and nature conservation game that I really adore, while Snacktorio which just came out is more of a buildcraft thing where you're building factories to feed hungry void monsters.
I'm sure there are way more of them too, those are just the ones I can think of right now.
I really wish there would be some kind of game based on one of those huge Skyblock progression packs, it's always been something that is just really fun to tinker with, and see all those things that you have built up from basically nothing :)
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Comment on What are you reading these days? in ~books
sotolf LinkI've been really into reading romantic sci-fi for a while now, I guess it's a really quite niche genre of books, but there are a lot of fun stuff there, and I enjoy the more character driven and...I've been really into reading romantic sci-fi for a while now, I guess it's a really quite niche genre of books, but there are a lot of fun stuff there, and I enjoy the more character driven and focused stories a lot. I got into it when I figured almost all the books I read one year was by male authors, and I wanted to read more from a different perspective as well.
Currently I'm reading Spacer's Cinderella by Adria Rose, and it's quite a lot of fun, someone suggested it to me because I've been really enjoying Jessie Mihalik's books. It's kind of a very loose retelling of cinderella, where everything is turned into quite different ways than the original stories.
I'm going a bit back and forth, and also am reading the Sector series of books of Nicola Claire, which started out as romance books in the first sub series, and have been moving more and more over to being space opera as it has been going.
And as a third on going series I'm reading Black Ocean by J.S. Morin, this one is just a lot of kind of silly and fun stories, not really much of a deep thing, but I've quite enjoyed the 7 first books at least.
That does read as very similar yeah.
For the last situation, I would probably rephrase it around though, if it's their kind of toast, that I can't really do the right way I'd probably walk around the bush, "I remember the toast you usually make, I really have kind of a craving for it, do you think you would be willing to make one for me" kind of thing. Or as you say do an over the top jokey please. If it's someone close to me, I would be more direct, it really depends on situation a lot.