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ArchLabs 2021.05.02 Release

29 comments

  1. [16]
    acdw
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    CrunchBang Linux (I suppose .. the granddaddy of ArchLabs?) was my first real Linux distro. The fora on its website were the first place I really felt welcome on the internet, and I'll always have...

    CrunchBang Linux (I suppose .. the granddaddy of ArchLabs?) was my first real Linux distro. The fora on its website were the first place I really felt welcome on the internet, and I'll always have a soft spot for it.

    Congrats on the release! -- I'm guessing this is similar in theme to #!/BunsenLabs? Simple, GUI distro?

    12 votes
    1. [15]
      Dobbie03
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      Thanks! #! is definitely the GrandPop of ArchLabs. I miss it everyday :D Yeah theming is very simple. Adwaita-Dark is the default and our own spin on the Papirus Icons (which by the way are well...

      Thanks!

      #! is definitely the GrandPop of ArchLabs. I miss it everyday :D

      Yeah theming is very simple. Adwaita-Dark is the default and our own spin on the Papirus Icons (which by the way are well over due for an update, the AL version that is).

      3 votes
      1. [14]
        acdw
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        I need to (a) figure out how to properly spin up a VM and (b) take ArchLabs for a spin! I really like Arch's package ecosystem, but def think setting it up from scratch is ... tiresome. RN I'm on...

        I need to (a) figure out how to properly spin up a VM and (b) take ArchLabs for a spin! I really like Arch's package ecosystem, but def think setting it up from scratch is ... tiresome. RN I'm on Artix/XFCE edition, but I could be down to try some ArchLabs. Do yall have Runit/OpenRC installs available? (Just curious, the older I get the less I care about SystemD).

        By the way, I was "mahatman2" back in the #! days. I think I remember seeing you around the Show off your Desktop! threads.

        4 votes
        1. [6]
          hungariantoast
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          Arch actually has a guided installer now. I have not used it myself, but it is supposed to simplify the installation process greatly. Also, as someone who has gotten frustrated at some of the...

          Arch actually has a guided installer now. I have not used it myself, but it is supposed to simplify the installation process greatly.

          Also, as someone who has gotten frustrated at some of the prose in the Arch wiki installation guide and related pages, let me just say that taking my own notes on how I performed an installation has made any subsequent installation a five-minute ordeal.

          5 votes
          1. [3]
            streblo
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            The arch wiki is deliberately trying to convey understanding of a topic rather than a simple how-to of 4 or 5 briefly explained commands. Such a document may be beneficial to some but doing so in...

            The arch wiki is deliberately trying to convey understanding of a topic rather than a simple how-to of 4 or 5 briefly explained commands. Such a document may be beneficial to some but doing so in a brief and concise manner would be hard while not being opinionated on which network manager to install, which desktop/window manager etc etc.

            2 votes
            1. [2]
              hungariantoast
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              Nothing you just mentioned is anything I'm complaining about though? I understand the purpose of the wiki. I've contributed to it after all. That doesn't change the fact that I find some parts of...

              Nothing you just mentioned is anything I'm complaining about though?

              I understand the purpose of the wiki. I've contributed to it after all. That doesn't change the fact that I find some parts of the installation guide (and especially some parts of related pages) to be poorly written, and are more confusing than educational.

              5 votes
              1. streblo
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                Yea fair enough, apologies. I read your comment in the same vein as many other comments I see re: the wiki where people want less background information and more what commands should I enter to do X.

                Yea fair enough, apologies. I read your comment in the same vein as many other comments I see re: the wiki where people want less background information and more what commands should I enter to do X.

                1 vote
          2. knocklessmonster
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            I miss the beginner's guide, to be honest. It was nice to have a straightforward page to point new users to. In Arch style it required a bit of research still, but helped me learn what I was doing...

            I miss the beginner's guide, to be honest. It was nice to have a straightforward page to point new users to. In Arch style it required a bit of research still, but helped me learn what I was doing early on.

            2 votes
          3. acdw
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            That's really good to know, about the guided installer. I really should get around to taking notes as well, that's a great idea!

            That's really good to know, about the guided installer. I really should get around to taking notes as well, that's a great idea!

            2 votes
        2. [7]
          Dobbie03
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          I am not ashamed to admit this but I have no idea how to use a VM I just install something I want to test on my laptop. My main PC is my desktop. We only supply a systemd option. Funny, the older...

          I am not ashamed to admit this but I have no idea how to use a VM I just install something I want to test on my laptop. My main PC is my desktop.

          We only supply a systemd option. Funny, the older I get the less I care about Runnit or OpenRC :D

          I think I remember your username. That was a great forum and distro.

          1 vote
          1. [6]
            acdw
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            Haha, I'm usually the same! I try QEMU but it's so many command-line options, lol. Also same here. Like, I think the RedHat people were kind of annoying in the way they did things, but ... bleh. I...

            I am not ashamed to admit this but I have no idea how to use a VM I just install something I want to test on my laptop.

            Haha, I'm usually the same! I try QEMU but it's so many command-line options, lol.

            Funny, the older I get the less I care about Runnit or OpenRC :D

            Also same here. Like, I think the RedHat people were kind of annoying in the way they did things, but ... bleh. I mostly just wanna run Emacs nowadays anyway :P

            I think I remember your username. That was a great forum and distro.

            It really really was :) Thanks for keeping the dream alive!

            2 votes
            1. [2]
              admicos
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              Try libvirt with virt-manager It provides a nice GUI over QEMU (and a lot of other things too). It's my go-to virtual machine setup nowadays.

              I try QEMU but it's so many command-line options, lol.

              Try libvirt with virt-manager

              It provides a nice GUI over QEMU (and a lot of other things too). It's my go-to virtual machine setup nowadays.

              5 votes
              1. acdw
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                Thanks! I'll have to try it out :)

                Thanks! I'll have to try it out :)

                2 votes
            2. [3]
              Dobbie03
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              We try our best :D Though we are nothing like what #! product wise we are trying to create a decent community. I don't have the brain capacity for that.

              It really really was :) Thanks for keeping the dream alive!

              We try our best :D Though we are nothing like what #! product wise we are trying to create a decent community.

              just wanna run Emacs nowadays anyway

              I don't have the brain capacity for that.

              1 vote
              1. [2]
                acdw
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                LOL, I didn't... until I did :P

                just wanna run Emacs nowadays anyway

                I don't have the brain capacity for that.

                LOL, I didn't... until I did :P

                1. Dobbie03
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                  You would not believe how long I have tried to spend with emacs/vim trying to lock in those keybinds.......countless.

                  LOL, I didn't... until I did :P

                  You would not believe how long I have tried to spend with emacs/vim trying to lock in those keybinds.......countless.

                  1 vote
  2. [3]
    petrichor
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    What is ArchLabs?

    What is ArchLabs?

    6 votes
    1. HoolaBoola
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      Kind of a pre-packaged version of Arch Linux. Whereas normally you'd have to choose everything from WiFi-managers to Desktop Environments yourself, ArchLabs is supposed to be a ready package that...

      Kind of a pre-packaged version of Arch Linux. Whereas normally you'd have to choose everything from WiFi-managers to Desktop Environments yourself, ArchLabs is supposed to be a ready package that can be easily set up

      5 votes
  3. [3]
    Dobbie03
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    I don't often post here but I thought I would make a post regarding the release of the new ArchLabs ISO. If you are interested, please download and take a look. Enjoy!

    I don't often post here but I thought I would make a post regarding the release of the new ArchLabs ISO.

    If you are interested, please download and take a look.

    Enjoy!

    4 votes
    1. [2]
      PathOfTheProkopton
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      I used your distro for about 6 to 8 months and really enjoyed it. It was actually my first introduction to tiling window managers. Great work.

      I used your distro for about 6 to 8 months and really enjoyed it. It was actually my first introduction to tiling window managers.

      Great work.

      4 votes
      1. Dobbie03
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        Glad you enjoyed it :D twm's are the best.

        Glad you enjoyed it :D

        twm's are the best.

        1 vote
  4. [5]
    hook
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    What makes it different from e.g. Manjaro?

    What makes it different from e.g. Manjaro?

    3 votes
    1. Dobbie03
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      Our installer and the fact that, as @knocklessmonster mentioned, we are basically a vanilla Arch. Openbox is preconfigured but everything else we provide in the installer is pretty much stock...

      Our installer and the fact that, as @knocklessmonster mentioned, we are basically a vanilla Arch. Openbox is preconfigured but everything else we provide in the installer is pretty much stock standard.

      5 votes
    2. [3]
      knocklessmonster
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      It's really just a vanilla Arch with theming and some preconfiguration, IIRC in most of the setups, with some fully pre-built custom environments, like a Crunchbang-style Openbox environment which...

      It's really just a vanilla Arch with theming and some preconfiguration, IIRC in most of the setups, with some fully pre-built custom environments, like a Crunchbang-style Openbox environment which is basically the flagship.

      Manjaro is so different as to be a separate distro with a two-week update cycle, scripts to handle what would typically be required interventions in Arch, and many other things. XFCE is its main distro, and it provides many others, in what is effectively a separate, or at least version-delayed, ecosystem.

      4 votes
      1. [2]
        hook
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        Thank you and @Dobbie03 both for your answers. That makes sense to me. I’ll probably stick with Manjaro for the time being, but will keep an eye on ArchLabs :)

        Thank you and @Dobbie03 both for your answers. That makes sense to me. I’ll probably stick with Manjaro for the time being, but will keep an eye on neo-#! ArchLabs :)

        2 votes
        1. Dobbie03
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          Happy to help. Hopefully we might see you over at the AL forum :)

          Happy to help. Hopefully we might see you over at the AL forum :)

          2 votes
  5. [2]
    PathOfTheProkopton
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    How do you even begin creating your own distro?

    How do you even begin creating your own distro?

    1 vote
    1. Dobbie03
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      In my case, with a lot of luck and outside help. As usual, the Arch Wiki has the answer https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Archiso In ArchLabs case we have a very skilled dev who looks after our...

      In my case, with a lot of luck and outside help.

      As usual, the Arch Wiki has the answer
      https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Archiso

      In ArchLabs case we have a very skilled dev who looks after our ISO. I have very little input these days

      1 vote