8 votes

Is real vanilla actually worth it?

18 comments

  1. [18]
    vord
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    Answer to Clickbait title: Yes, but there are pros and cons to both. The content does look generally interesting, but jumping to the conclusion scratched the itch and now will watch in more detail...

    Answer to Clickbait title: Yes, but there are pros and cons to both.

    The content does look generally interesting, but jumping to the conclusion scratched the itch and now will watch in more detail at my liesure.

    4 votes
    1. [14]
      cfabbro
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      How is the title clickbait? It's not deceptive or misleading at all, it accurately describes the contents of the video, and is a legitimate question he asked himself that he then goes to great...

      How is the title clickbait? It's not deceptive or misleading at all, it accurately describes the contents of the video, and is a legitimate question he asked himself that he then goes to great lengths to answer as fairly as he can.

      3 votes
      1. [13]
        lou
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        I have been noticing a shift in the usage of the word "clickbait". "Clickbait" used to be primarily a qualifier for sleazy misleading titles, but it's now used for any headline that uses...

        I have been noticing a shift in the usage of the word "clickbait".

        "Clickbait" used to be primarily a qualifier for sleazy misleading titles, but it's now used for any headline that uses persuasion techniques to entice the reader to consume the content.

        This shift seems stronger in technical venues (of which Tildes is an example), where there is a great focus on content over rhetoric or anything resembling persuasion.

        Enticing a potential reader is very much a core function of headlines, and it is not immoral to use persuasion to achieve that goal.

        3 votes
        1. [4]
          vord
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          I respectfully disgree with both you and @cfabbro. The title posits a question without an answer, and the video is 30 minutes long. That's a hell of a commitment for a simple yes/no. Detailed...

          I respectfully disgree with both you and @cfabbro.

          The title posits a question without an answer, and the video is 30 minutes long. That's a hell of a commitment for a simple yes/no.

          Detailed Analysis of Vanilla cooking products.

          4 votes
          1. [3]
            lou
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            Have you seen the video? He answers it. It's worth it in some situations and he tests and tells which is which. It's not a binary thing why do you want a binary answer? I mean it could be shorter,...

            Have you seen the video? He answers it.

            It's worth it in some situations and he tests and tells which is which.

            It's not a binary thing why do you want a binary answer?

            I mean it could be shorter, but that's not what "clickbait" means.

            4 votes
            1. [2]
              vord
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              I never said he didn't answer or wasn't good content. But they posted a vague but obvious question (anybody who's used real vanilla could tell you) as the title. Which implies that it could be a...

              I never said he didn't answer or wasn't good content. But they posted a vague but obvious question (anybody who's used real vanilla could tell you) as the title. Which implies that it could be a surprise, but in reality it is not.

              I jumped to the 29 minute mark, got the conclusion, and shared for anyone else that had the burning desire to know if the answer was 'No', but not 30 minutes to spare.

              It's the /r/SavedYouAClick for videos.

              4 votes
              1. lou
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                Dude, it's okay to dislike a video but it's not clickbait, that is not what clickbait is! Also I've known /r/savedyouaclick for a long time, this video is nothing like the egregious lists you'll...

                Dude, it's okay to dislike a video but it's not clickbait, that is not what clickbait is!

                Also I've known /r/savedyouaclick for a long time, this video is nothing like the egregious lists you'll see on that sub.

                I'd like to ask you seriously: have you actually seen the entire video that you're calling "clickbait"?

                4 votes
        2. [4]
          Wes
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          I don't think that's right. Clickbait has long been associated with top ten lists, fully-capitalized titles, visually gaudy images, seductive thumbnails, big red arrows, etc. None of these relate...

          "Clickbait" used to be primarily a qualifier for sleazy misleading titles

          I don't think that's right. Clickbait has long been associated with top ten lists, fully-capitalized titles, visually gaudy images, seductive thumbnails, big red arrows, etc. None of these relate to accuracy of the content. Something can be accurate and still be utter clickbait.

          3 votes
          1. [3]
            vord
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            LTT is the king of clickbait titles with quality content backing it.

            LTT is the king of clickbait titles with quality content backing it.

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              AugustusFerdinand
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              Agree to disagree. LTT is king of tech clickbait, but I rarely find the content behind it to be worth watching. LTT is at coasting on fame level and hasn't done anything worthwhile in years.

              Agree to disagree. LTT is king of tech clickbait, but I rarely find the content behind it to be worth watching. LTT is at coasting on fame level and hasn't done anything worthwhile in years.

              1 vote
              1. lou
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                LTT is absolutely the king of clickbait and Linus admitted to it himself. However, it often does have quality content. Chiefly, anything Anthony Young makes.

                LTT is absolutely the king of clickbait and Linus admitted to it himself.

                However, it often does have quality content. Chiefly, anything Anthony Young makes.

                3 votes
        3. [4]
          cfabbro
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          Well that's dumb. I can understand criticizing something that's misleading or deceptive, but if using any emotive/persuasive language or attempting to entice someone to read/watch the content in...

          Well that's dumb. I can understand criticizing something that's misleading or deceptive, but if using any emotive/persuasive language or attempting to entice someone to read/watch the content in any way qualifies as being "clickbait", then damn near everything becomes "clickbait" and the word loses all weight. At which point, why bother using it at all, since it doesn't distinguish between titles deserving criticism and those that don't? :/

          2 votes
          1. stu2b50
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            Remember when calling someone a simp was a more serious accusation as opposed to a synonym for "fan" ;) It's inevitable, fortunately or not.

            Remember when calling someone a simp was a more serious accusation as opposed to a synonym for "fan" ;)

            It's inevitable, fortunately or not.

            2 votes
          2. [2]
            lou
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            That's just how language evolves. This will inevitably lead to the dilution of the word's force, and we'll have to come up with another expression to convey precisely what it used to mean. I mean...

            That's just how language evolves. This will inevitably lead to the dilution of the word's force, and we'll have to come up with another expression to convey precisely what it used to mean. I mean it's annoying, but I won't yell at the wind :P

            1 vote
            1. cfabbro
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              No. Rage, rage against the dying of the light! I refuse to accept this new diluted (and pointless) definition and usage of the word! :P

              No. Rage, rage against the dying of the light! I refuse to accept this new diluted (and pointless) definition and usage of the word! :P

              1 vote
    2. lou
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      It's good content. The author makes relevant observations about each kind on each preparation. I also don't think the title is clickbait at all, as I think "clickbait" is an accusation thrown way...

      It's good content. The author makes relevant observations about each kind on each preparation.

      I also don't think the title is clickbait at all, as I think "clickbait" is an accusation thrown way too liberally nowadays, and the video does answer the question in detail (although not in a scientific way, but I don't think anyone expected that).

      2 votes
    3. [2]
      teaearlgraycold
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      Guess that guy’s law doesn’t apply to YouTube videos.

      Guess that guy’s law doesn’t apply to YouTube videos.

      2 votes