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The Steam subscriber agreement has dropped its forced arbitration clause, allowing gamers to take legal action against the platform
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- Title
- Valve removes arbitration from its Steam agreements - here's what that means for you
- Authors
- Nicole Carpenter
- Published
- Sep 27 2024
- Word count
- 856 words
I saw the pop up to accept the new agreement, thought "Oh no, it's finally happening. Steam has started enshitifying", then promptly did a triple take at the new wording.
At the risk of sounding like a fanboy for a multimillionaire.... It seems like Gabe is the only one putting the gaming industry on his back right now. (In terms of not maximising value extraction from the HUGE user base they have)
It's OK to like people who generally do things you like! Especially since it's also OK to change your mind if you find out later they did something bad. You don't have to pre-emptively dislike Gabe.
our lord and savior /s
I wonder what his liquid net worth is. Theoretically he’s a billionaire because of his ownership of Valve.
Thank you for validating my feelings about Dolly Parton. Now I don't feel so uncomfortable about my campaign for her Canonisation.
From the sound of it, it seems like this is just a tactic to screw a different set of consumers though?
To me this seems like trying to avoid unnecessary headaches, not necessarily screw a different group of people. These people can now sue too, right?
Reading the article, it seems more like a reaction to arbitration becoming a less good option compared to the alternative, rather than Valve feeling generous all of a sudden.
As much as I like Valve, this isn’t unprecedented. For example, the reason that refunds exist was not because they felt like it; it was because the EU, along with other countries, started to breathe down on their neck about it.
But still, credit where credit is due, Valve is still one of the most consumer friendly companies in gaming
Article is from Polygon, title is from Verge. Other links:
https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/27/24255841/steam-forced-arbitration-policy-lawsuit
https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/valve-will-see-you-in-court-no-really-steam-s-just-updated-its-subscriber-agreement-so-that-all-disputes-and-claims-proceed-in-court/
Is everyone getting this wrong? Does this actually benefit Valve? Was taking Valve to 3rd party arbitration cheaper and more accessible than court, resulting in them paying more in damages?
From the article
One theory would be that this move benefits Valve because they’ve determined the threat of mass arbitration to be worse than the threat of a class action that goes to court.
A natural continuation of this is that as soon as Valve's lawyers figure out how to make their forced arbitration clause more robust against this kind of "death by a thousand cuts" attack on their financial resources, it'll come right back.