I want to play in this world. Badly. Dunno if I can or will, though. I don't play these sorts of games, and my hardware is not great. heh. but I still want to play in it. :)
I want to play in this world. Badly.
Dunno if I can or will, though. I don't play these sorts of games, and my hardware is not great. heh.
Owlcat made by far the best Warhammer 40k RPG, Rogue Trader... So I am confident they can actually do right by this IP too, and I'm now super excited to play this knowing they're behind it!
Owlcat made by far the best Warhammer 40k RPG, Rogue Trader... So I am confident they can actually do right by this IP too, and I'm now super excited to play this knowing they're behind it!
It's just my opinion, but yes, very. It does have 21.7k reviews on Steam, 84% of which are positive though, so I'm clearly not alone in holding that opinion. I have 155 hours played in it, and it...
Rogue Trader was... good? I remember early reviews looked iffy.
It's just my opinion, but yes, very. It does have 21.7k reviews on Steam, 84% of which are positive though, so I'm clearly not alone in holding that opinion. I have 155 hours played in it, and it is genuinely my favorite cRPG in recent memory. It's even up there with the likes of Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights for me, and just like them I will likely end up replaying it a fair amount over the coming years.
Do you have to be deep into the 40k lore to appreciate it?
I don't think so. However, I'm also probably not the best person to ask that of since I'm a bit of a 40k lore junky, so was already super familiar with it all. YMMV if you're totally new to the setting, but I honestly can't say for sure.
Oh, no, I've noticed the uptick in reviews! I've been on the fence as I read some mixed reviews though I take the game press with a huge helping of salt. At least, with Steam, you can return...
Oh, no, I've noticed the uptick in reviews!
I've been on the fence as I read some mixed reviews though I take the game press with a huge helping of salt.
At least, with Steam, you can return almost anything if it's been played < 2 hours within 2 weeks of purchase. Maybe next time it's on sale.
Comparing to BG (original, 2, or 3), regardless, is high praise.
I know some 40k but, yeesh, that's just gone wildly out of control since 40k got to the US in '90 or so (and wasn't it 30k then...?)
I actually found the writing, story, lore, far superior to BG3, not nearly as pretty in fidelity, but far more entertaining and interesting. BG3, while one of my favorite fantasy games, collapses...
Comparing to BG (original, 2, or 3), regardless, is high praise.
I actually found the writing, story, lore, far superior to BG3, not nearly as pretty in fidelity, but far more entertaining and interesting. BG3, while one of my favorite fantasy games, collapses under its own weight, the visual design is just generic enough to almost be forgettable, and the story of BG3 being the same. BG3 deserves all the accolades, but Rogue Trader is just different and keeps it interesting all the way through. Where BG3 is mind-blowing for the first six hours, Rogue Trader becomes interesting and different post six hours. Lore becomes more and more interesting as it progresses (especially if you don't know 40k), whereas BG3 kind of loses the lore luster pretty early on, predictable even.
Rogue Trader isn't perfect, it's not nearly as great as BG3 in its totality, in its breadth, but its certainly increases in entertainment and intrigue as you progress, whereas BG3 is the opposite.
BG3 has you go from area to area to area, Rogue Trader has a more traditional game play loop, where you go to a new area, star system, planet, and then back to your 'ship', and your ship itself is so big with so many people and worlds on it, that even when you 'complete a mission for X', and while you would expect the 'go ship to planet to ship to new planet to ship to new station back to ship' would get boring, your ship is so massive with so many competing forces on and off, so many areas, unknown and known, you never know if you are going to be in a loop, or if something horrible is going to happen, or if decisions you made in passing 30 hours ago w/ some random NPC will come back and cause a mutiny that has been brewing in that time.
It's a gameplay loop that is sustainable and always have you coming back, whereas BG3 tends to have you just go in a direction outward and seldom ever return to where you were before. The only characters that really change the story or world in BG3 are the ones who repeatedly show up, confirming your choices, whereas NPCs in Rogue Trader might become major players that you spoke to and gave some sort of tip to in a dialogue to some unnamed dude on the street and you won't see them again until the end game when they just destroy everything you have built and decimate all alliances.
I'm... hesitant. The protagonists were Belters in that video? Or, at least, one of them was supposed to be? Why I'm bothered: for using some Belter slang, that was not a Belter accent. Maybe they...
I'm... hesitant. The protagonists were Belters in that video? Or, at least, one of them was supposed to be? Why I'm bothered: for using some Belter slang, that was not a Belter accent.
Maybe they will do right by the IP? I'm dubious. But I'd be glad to be wrong.
Is this based explicitly and exclusively on the TV series? 'Cuz that was based on a book series where the Belter accent is obviously open to interpretation.
Is this based explicitly and exclusively on the TV series? 'Cuz that was based on a book series where the Belter accent is obviously open to interpretation.
The visual style looks exactly like the show, down to the specific liberties the show took to make scenes more exciting for TV. PDCs having tracers specifically, which doesn't really make sense...
The visual style looks exactly like the show, down to the specific liberties the show took to make scenes more exciting for TV. PDCs having tracers specifically, which doesn't really make sense for a completely automated weapon that fires in space.
I'm not normally one who plays games that are tied to movies and shows, even if I enjoy the movie/show...But color me very intrigued. Probably because we've been so starved of new Expanse content....
I'm not normally one who plays games that are tied to movies and shows, even if I enjoy the movie/show...But color me very intrigued. Probably because we've been so starved of new Expanse content. I know there's another game featuring Drummer; I should try that sometime.
But yeah, this looks really good. I'm not familiar with Owlcat, but looking around on r/games and what cfabbro said, seems like this is a credible and talented studio. Excited to see how this turns out.
The Telltale game is great for fans, definitely give it a go when you have a chance. Narratively, it plays out like a novella, with enough significant choices built-in to warrant a second run...
The Telltale game is great for fans, definitely give it a go when you have a chance. Narratively, it plays out like a novella, with enough significant choices built-in to warrant a second run through. Plus Cara Gee returned to voice Drummer.
I've been playing one of Owlcat's earlier games and it's good. It'll be interesting to see how they do tackling a new genre, as to my knowledge I think they've exclusively been making isometric...
I've been playing one of Owlcat's earlier games and it's good. It'll be interesting to see how they do tackling a new genre, as to my knowledge I think they've exclusively been making isometric RPGs.
They've been doing very well in that niche, a more action-oriented game can be quite a different beast though. Overall I'm cautiously optimistic to see them try something a bit different, and hoping it means we still get some deep, crunchy RPG progression options in this action RPG.
I want to play in this world. Badly.
Dunno if I can or will, though. I don't play these sorts of games, and my hardware is not great. heh.
but I still want to play in it. :)
Same here, this is soo not my kind of game but I do love the universe. Although I also said that about Alien Isolation and that was really well done.
Owlcat made by far the best Warhammer 40k RPG, Rogue Trader... So I am confident they can actually do right by this IP too, and I'm now super excited to play this knowing they're behind it!
Rogue Trader was... good? I remember early reviews looked iffy. Do you have to be deep into the 40k lore to appreciate it?
It's just my opinion, but yes, very. It does have 21.7k reviews on Steam, 84% of which are positive though, so I'm clearly not alone in holding that opinion. I have 155 hours played in it, and it is genuinely my favorite cRPG in recent memory. It's even up there with the likes of Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights for me, and just like them I will likely end up replaying it a fair amount over the coming years.
I don't think so. However, I'm also probably not the best person to ask that of since I'm a bit of a 40k lore junky, so was already super familiar with it all. YMMV if you're totally new to the setting, but I honestly can't say for sure.
Oh, no, I've noticed the uptick in reviews!
I've been on the fence as I read some mixed reviews though I take the game press with a huge helping of salt.
At least, with Steam, you can return almost anything if it's been played < 2 hours within 2 weeks of purchase. Maybe next time it's on sale.
Comparing to BG (original, 2, or 3), regardless, is high praise.
I know some 40k but, yeesh, that's just gone wildly out of control since 40k got to the US in '90 or so (and wasn't it 30k then...?)
I actually found the writing, story, lore, far superior to BG3, not nearly as pretty in fidelity, but far more entertaining and interesting. BG3, while one of my favorite fantasy games, collapses under its own weight, the visual design is just generic enough to almost be forgettable, and the story of BG3 being the same. BG3 deserves all the accolades, but Rogue Trader is just different and keeps it interesting all the way through. Where BG3 is mind-blowing for the first six hours, Rogue Trader becomes interesting and different post six hours. Lore becomes more and more interesting as it progresses (especially if you don't know 40k), whereas BG3 kind of loses the lore luster pretty early on, predictable even.
Rogue Trader isn't perfect, it's not nearly as great as BG3 in its totality, in its breadth, but its certainly increases in entertainment and intrigue as you progress, whereas BG3 is the opposite.
BG3 has you go from area to area to area, Rogue Trader has a more traditional game play loop, where you go to a new area, star system, planet, and then back to your 'ship', and your ship itself is so big with so many people and worlds on it, that even when you 'complete a mission for X', and while you would expect the 'go ship to planet to ship to new planet to ship to new station back to ship' would get boring, your ship is so massive with so many competing forces on and off, so many areas, unknown and known, you never know if you are going to be in a loop, or if something horrible is going to happen, or if decisions you made in passing 30 hours ago w/ some random NPC will come back and cause a mutiny that has been brewing in that time.
It's a gameplay loop that is sustainable and always have you coming back, whereas BG3 tends to have you just go in a direction outward and seldom ever return to where you were before. The only characters that really change the story or world in BG3 are the ones who repeatedly show up, confirming your choices, whereas NPCs in Rogue Trader might become major players that you spoke to and gave some sort of tip to in a dialogue to some unnamed dude on the street and you won't see them again until the end game when they just destroy everything you have built and decimate all alliances.
I'm... hesitant. The protagonists were Belters in that video? Or, at least, one of them was supposed to be? Why I'm bothered: for using some Belter slang, that was not a Belter accent.
Maybe they will do right by the IP? I'm dubious. But I'd be glad to be wrong.
Is this based explicitly and exclusively on the TV series? 'Cuz that was based on a book series where the Belter accent is obviously open to interpretation.
The visual style looks exactly like the show, down to the specific liberties the show took to make scenes more exciting for TV. PDCs having tracers specifically, which doesn't really make sense for a completely automated weapon that fires in space.
I'm not normally one who plays games that are tied to movies and shows, even if I enjoy the movie/show...But color me very intrigued. Probably because we've been so starved of new Expanse content. I know there's another game featuring Drummer; I should try that sometime.
But yeah, this looks really good. I'm not familiar with Owlcat, but looking around on r/games and what cfabbro said, seems like this is a credible and talented studio. Excited to see how this turns out.
The Telltale game is great for fans, definitely give it a go when you have a chance. Narratively, it plays out like a novella, with enough significant choices built-in to warrant a second run through. Plus Cara Gee returned to voice Drummer.
The dialogue delivery is what made her character for me.
I've been playing one of Owlcat's earlier games and it's good. It'll be interesting to see how they do tackling a new genre, as to my knowledge I think they've exclusively been making isometric RPGs.
They've been doing very well in that niche, a more action-oriented game can be quite a different beast though. Overall I'm cautiously optimistic to see them try something a bit different, and hoping it means we still get some deep, crunchy RPG progression options in this action RPG.
Looks incredible! Hope they do a good job with the world building