World War II was huge and I don't care that they took some liberties to be more inclusive to certain groups. Not every participant was part of a regular military. I'm more confused what theater...
World War II was huge and I don't care that they took some liberties to be more inclusive to certain groups. Not every participant was part of a regular military.
I'm more confused what theater this scene is taking place in where all that stuff is going off. It looks like a V-1 rocket lands in the middle of them at one point.
Lmao yeah the rocket really got me. I was like “ok this is kind of cinematic, whatever BF has never had a good campaign...” Then a V1 just sort of came out of nowhere and landed on them with the...
Lmao yeah the rocket really got me. I was like “ok this is kind of cinematic, whatever BF has never had a good campaign...” Then a V1 just sort of came out of nowhere and landed on them with the accuracy of a JDAM and I let out an audible groan. They need to fire whoever it was in the marketing department that thought this was a good direction for the release trailer.
I think they took it way too far. Transgender women soldier - fine by me. As far as I know some hid their gender and did their role. But transgender + women + handicapped? A bit too much stretch...
I think they took it way too far. Transgender women soldier - fine by me.
As far as I know some hid their gender and did their role.
But transgender + women + handicapped? A bit too much stretch here. Physically disabled people weren't recruited as far as I've learned from history class.
Apart from trying to rewrite history with elements from our modernized ideology it won't really change what happened in the past and thus ruins the realism of the game. So I understand the #notmybattlefield stuff in the comments there.
Also found this: "Kitchen DLC for women."
Hue.
Sorry for bringing trash here.
No clue of the in-game context, but both women and disabled people were recruited for spy roles. SOE agents were trained in weapons and explosives. One of note is Virginia Hall, who was an amputee.
But transgender + women + handicapped? A bit too much stretch here. Physically disabled people weren't recruited as far as I've learned from history class.
No clue of the in-game context, but both women and disabled people were recruited for spy roles. SOE agents were trained in weapons and explosives. One of note is Virginia Hall, who was an amputee.
Spy? sure. With a prosthetic leg? cool and massive respects! But a handicap in the front lines in a full out World War? No. Why would they do that? They didn't even recruit the ones that weren't...
Spy? sure. With a prosthetic leg? cool and massive respects!
But a handicap in the front lines in a full out World War? No. Why would they do that? They didn't even recruit the ones that weren't fit. Then how does a handicap get in? World Wars were no fun and games or a place to prove a point. Patriots lost their lives. Represent them. Woman Man Transgender whoever. But add a woman plus make her handicap? They pushed it too far. Using the WWII tag just to sell their game to make it 'look cool' it's no longer WWII tbh. Call of Duty could have gone away with that but not whilst using the WWII tags.. is an insult.
I was speaking more to your point that no disabled person was ever recruited for things that sent them into the field. It doesn't look like it from the trailer based on her uniform, but I thought...
I was speaking more to your point that no disabled person was ever recruited for things that sent them into the field. It doesn't look like it from the trailer based on her uniform, but I thought it was a cool possibility that she's an SOE agent who ended up in a firefight (which is plausible based on their training and their jobs as saboteurs, guerrilla fighters, and leaders of the local resistances).
I just... I guess I don't understand why this one thing is an insult and unrealistic, while the rest of it isn't? You say that the World Wars were no fun and games... but Battlefield literally is a game. It has respawns, which could be taken as an insult to all the people who died and obviously couldn't come back. It has a relatively quick first aid mechanic, which ignores the long recovery times and often permanent disability faced by people injured in battle. I'm guessing that you can't get captured and stuck in a POW camp for the rest of the war, either. (Although maybe there are storylines that include that, I don't know.)
All of these mechanics exist in the game to make it more enjoyable to play at the expense of realism. Being able to make a character that looks like you (or a badass version of who you'd like to be) is no different to me.
(PS I'm not saying you meant it in a bad way, but "a handicap" is... not a great way to refer to someone. "Disabled person" works~)
Good points. I find it hard to argue any of the points you made. But why it's insulting is because of the things that are now happening. The spotlight is on the handicapped girl/transgender if you...
Good points. I find it hard to argue any of the points you made.
But why it's insulting is because of the things that are now happening. The spotlight is on the handicapped girl/transgender if you haven't already noticed from the Youtube comment section and twitter #notmybattlefield flood. If it were normal and a well built game - instead of wasting time on this 'alternative' story - enhancing gamers experience using the modern day technology that we have to make it close to the true world war we know as a fact, we would be blown. It should just be a typical WWII game - which is how the game devs promote it. What they did made it more Call of Duty-ish with a extra boost of sales cause of the WWII tags. They are using the dead bodies of patriots to earn money. This has derailed it from it's track. If it were normal say with a spy mission and stuff I'd be cool with it. If they had taking the effort to make a game with solid gameplay instead of doing what they have done we would appreciate these historic events more like Battlefield 1. But..... rip.
It's still hard for me to understand why people are latching onto this one thing rather than other unrealistic things. What do we know about her? Is she a main character in a storyline? Just an...
It's still hard for me to understand why people are latching onto this one thing rather than other unrealistic things. What do we know about her? Is she a main character in a storyline? Just an example of the character creation options for players? (I keep seeing people say she's trans or a lesbian, but I haven't found any info about her, so I can't tell if this is accurate or people labeling her with more identities they think are "SJW.")
My instinct is that mechanics like respawns are accepted despite being unrealistic because they are already common in this genre of game; perhaps one day "make a character that looks like you would if you'd fought in WWII" will also be common enough that it won't cause an uproar, and people can play a more realistic game if they want.
Basically, I can understand being annoyed that a game isn't what developers claim it is, but I don't consider adding female character options to be to "rewriting history" more than other aspects of the game.
Nah respawns are acceptable cause otherwise people would never reach the end game. People nowadays say Cuphead and Dark Souls as hard when the classics I grew up playing had nothing more than 3...
Nah respawns are acceptable cause otherwise people would never reach the end game. People nowadays say Cuphead and Dark Souls as hard when the classics I grew up playing had nothing more than 3 lives and no checkpoints or saves. Those games had them both so idk why didn't they just play the game instead of make it a big deal when it was trending. (Both are fun imo btw.) Also note Respawns are game mechanic and does not alter the story. You just born again from last checpoint/save and resume the game. What they did is change the story (which is not a story but a real life event!) and that 'triggers' me and most. One guy I read somewhere said it nicely...
"Putting "fun over authentic" is probably not a great way to approach a game based around a real war in which millions of people died."
:/
I wish you understood what I meant. Battlefield 5 is no longer based on WWII for me. That company just used a real life event to sell millions of copies of a game. Money > Respect for people that lost their lives.
Well, if we're going for realism, not everyone reached the end of the war, so I think a game with some sort of permadeath would be a valid design choice (but not a fun one). I think we'll have to...
Well, if we're going for realism, not everyone reached the end of the war, so I think a game with some sort of permadeath would be a valid design choice (but not a fun one).
I think we'll have to "agree to disagree" at this point. I can see your point about respect, but I don't think adding female character takes away from respecting the sacrifices of male soldiers (especially if the game covers female resistance fighters, who did exist). And all WWII games are out to make money, whatever their level of realism.
(I just thought of another reason playable female characters could be positive: increased immersion for some players. If the object is to portray a war through an interactive medium so that people can truly appreciate the hardships of war, maybe being able to further identify with your avatar helps with that?)
Was nice to see through a different point of view so thank you for keeping up! :) Games are games. Not to be taken seriously I get it your point. But I still feel the same way about the things I...
Was nice to see through a different point of view so thank you for keeping up! :) Games are games. Not to be taken seriously I get it your point. But I still feel the same way about the things I said. So I'll settle at agree to disagree. :P
I just wanted to pop in and say, the exchange between you two warms the cockles of my heart and gives me hope we can actually make ~ work if we continue to strive for our goals. You both had a...
I just wanted to pop in and say, the exchange between you two warms the cockles of my heart and gives me hope we can actually make ~ work if we continue to strive for our goals. You both had a major difference of opinion but handled it in a calm, civil way while still maintaining respect for each other. :)
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. Dice is stuffing the game with political/social agendas for some time now and with each sequel it's even more visible. Not only that but they are also...
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.
Dice is stuffing the game with political/social agendas for some time now and with each sequel it's even more visible.
Not only that but they are also making the game more of a "casual" type with each edition.
The arcadieness of this is more of an issue than the handicapped girl. The issue is that they game is starting to look like Unreal Tournament. There's nothing wrong with those kind of games, but...
The arcadieness of this is more of an issue than the handicapped girl.
The issue is that they game is starting to look like Unreal Tournament. There's nothing wrong with those kind of games, but BF was always 'sim adjacent' vs being an arcade shooter you know? If I wanted Call of Duty I'd play that. Here's hoping that these elements can be toned down a bit.
I will say, the game effects look really nice. The blood/mud sticking on the guns, the dirt sticking on the camera, that was pretty cool looking.
I've heard people floating the idea that this might be an alternate-history WW2, so who knows just how crazy this game could get. I for one would love it if Dice stopped pussyfooting around and...
I've heard people floating the idea that this might be an alternate-history WW2, so who knows just how crazy this game could get. I for one would love it if Dice stopped pussyfooting around and just gave us the God-damn FPS dinosaur game the world has been clamoring for since Turok all but died.
Honestly I wouldn't even mind that. Some spooky alternate history stuff is always interesting, thinking of the Wolfenstein games for example. I don't think they need to take it that far but if...
Honestly I wouldn't even mind that. Some spooky alternate history stuff is always interesting, thinking of the Wolfenstein games for example. I don't think they need to take it that far but if they made a gritty, slightly more realistic version of alternate WWII then I would jump on that idea.
Found some deets from other sites: No Season Pass Launch locations are France, Africa and Rottedam and North Africa desert Coop Mode called Combined Arms Single player War Stories return...
Launch locations are France, Africa and Rottedam and North Africa desert
Coop Mode called Combined Arms
Single player War Stories return
Fortifications are things like sand ags, trenches, tank stoppers. Only supports can build offensively defense - fortifications such as machine guns, field cannons and are much faster at building everything.
Predetermined areas to build such as at flags, can rebuild destroyed buildings
Health bar is in stages, only regen up to closet stage not to 100 anymore
Physical interactions - every action in the game requires a player interact for things like medkits, spotting, ammo, ledge grabbing (example: healing requires walking over to a health pack, character animation to pick it up, then start healing)
No more HUD/map spotting, spotting is based on movement/changes around you
Much less ammo on spawn, out of ammo after a few fights, but more ways to resupply ammo in the battlefield from packs, crates, or grabbing small amounts of ammo off of bodies (all requires physical interactions)
Revive system has a full on animation, takes a few seconds to complete, no more revive trains, takes time to complete
Ragdolls are server side, can now drag a downed player's body elsewhere
Any class can do a squad revive, takes longer than a medic revive, does not give full health points
Can call for help when down such as in the trailer
Ragdolls (player bodies) effect the environment, push down grass etc.
Gunplay completely changed
No more visual recoil
Each gun has a unique recoil pattern that can be learned and mastered
Bipods easier to use and setup
Bullet penetration through thin wood, sheet metal, walls
Movement change, can now dive froward, backward, left and right similar to R6 Siege prone system
Diving has a delay to prevent dolphin diving
Crouch sprinting is in the game
Can burst out of widows and commando roll, no destroying windows first
Can catch, throwback or shoot grenades
Less grenades because less ammo
Can tow items in the game with vehicles such as previously stationary anti-air guns, teammate can use an anti-air gun while you tow it with a vehicle
For example, can drive a tiger tank towing a field cannon behind it or a truck towing ammo crate to resupply teammates on the front line
Destruction explodes inwards or outwards based on where the destruction happens. Throw a grenade inside of the building? The explosion sends things outside of it. Outside of it? Breaks inwards.
Tank driving into a building slowly destroys a building, walls slowly crack/fall, not instant
Heavily focused on squad play, instant placed in squad when joining a game
New squad spawning system, squad deploy system that shows what squad mates are doing in third person in real time before the tactical map screen, so spawning on squad is kicker than spawning on tactical map screen
Since squad spawning/deploying is faster than tactical map, squad wipes are serious
Squads accumulate points that can be spent on "squad call-ins", only squad leader can spend them in
Squad Call-ins are V1 or JB2 rockets as seen in the trailer, supply drops with ammo/health, a smoke barrage, heavy weapon pickups (not hero kits), squad only vehicles such as Churchill crocodile flamethrower tank or the Sturm tiger
Elite classes are gone
Behemoths are gone
Large, non-fatal explosions can knock a player over
Four classes are back: assault, medic, scout, support
Create a solider, add them to a company of soldiers, then can customize things like gender, face look, face paint, outfit, accessories, etc. and assign them a class archtype
Class archetypes highly customization
Can be an assault that specializes in anti-tank or anti-infantry only, or a mix of both, etc.
Highly specialized archetypes called exotics such as a recon paratrooper, stealthy short-range behind enemy lines person who uses a suppressed SMG and silent gadgets like pistols and garrotes comes with silent footsteps and throwing knives
Can change and add specialization trees such as agility, flak armor, suppressive resistance
The more you play a class more you get more specializations/archetypes within said class
Same system for guns, pick a gun, level it up, unlock specializations and making gameplay choices in a skill tree on that gun
Specializations are the only thing that affects how a gun plays or feels (ex: bipod)
Five-seven elements to change on a gun to make it your own (stocks, sights, muzzles, chassis, skins, leaves on the front, cloth on back, straps, etc).
Gameplay and visual customization is SEPARATE. Look of weapon is just visual without impacting gameplay, specialization is what determines how the gun plays/feels.
Same system for vehicles and planes
Asymmetric vehicles for teams, (ex: one team might get a big slow tank that does lot of damage, other team gets a small fast tank that does light damage)
Grand Operations gamemode, each day is a full match, always advance to the next day
GOs have different objectives per day
Success or failure in GO days have visual and gameplay impact
Day 4 only has a chance to happen if there isn't a clear winner from previous days
Day 4 is last stand, limited ammo, no respawns, whoever lives to the end wins
Coop mode, combined arms with a dynamic mission creator/AI that sits between SP/MP as a creative sandbox
Soldiers created for a company can be used in both coop and MP, parity
No news on suppression yet, uncertain if in game
All logic in game is server side, not client side so changes to systems do not require a patch
Promises of more communication between devs and community, roadmaps, etc.
New content is called Tides of war, daily/weekly/monthly challenges with overarching chapters and questlines that give you "unique items and cosmetics"
Tides of War gives new maps, game modes, limited time experiences
Variety of maps with different tones such as complete crushing battlefield chaos or more slow space large maps with tempo that goes up and down
Gamemodes confirmed: Grand Operations, Conquest, TDM, Domination
No news on RSP
The Shhhh animation from the trailer is possible to experience in game
Transport vehicles are alive on the map and can jump into them
Combat vehicles spawn from tactical deployment map
Biggest changes summed up: lack of auto regen health, limited ammo, building fortifications, phyiscal interactions for everything, skill-based gunplay, squad revives, massive emphasis on squad play and team play, 3d spotting changes, minimal HUD
This trailer was just so generic. Last Battlefields trailer got me super hype but this one just falls flat. I saw the metal hand and thought "oh maybe an alt ww2 theme" but then nothing happened.
This trailer was just so generic. Last Battlefields trailer got me super hype but this one just falls flat. I saw the metal hand and thought "oh maybe an alt ww2 theme" but then nothing happened.
Alt history would be an amazing direction for battlefield or a similar game to take, it's a shame they didn't go that direction. It might have saved battlefield 5 from being just another in a wave...
Alt history would be an amazing direction for battlefield or a similar game to take, it's a shame they didn't go that direction. It might have saved battlefield 5 from being just another in a wave of similar trending FPS games.
I can't get excited about Battlefield games anymore. Everything since Bad Company 2 has been a huge disappointment. Battlefield 2 was the last great BF game with awesome and unique maps, and a big...
I can't get excited about Battlefield games anymore. Everything since Bad Company 2 has been a huge disappointment. Battlefield 2 was the last great BF game with awesome and unique maps, and a big focus on squad cohesion with command mode. Battlefield 3 felt small in comparison and I couldn't even muster up the desire to try BF4. Everything from EA is legitimately disappointing now. It's not like I can even justify the price by saying that the game will be fun enough to put up with EA crap.
The graphics look good... that's about all I can say. The trailer looks pretty (like all Frostbite games), but other than that it didn't really say anything about the game.
The graphics look good... that's about all I can say. The trailer looks pretty (like all Frostbite games), but other than that it didn't really say anything about the game.
World War II was huge and I don't care that they took some liberties to be more inclusive to certain groups. Not every participant was part of a regular military.
I'm more confused what theater this scene is taking place in where all that stuff is going off. It looks like a V-1 rocket lands in the middle of them at one point.
Lmao yeah the rocket really got me. I was like “ok this is kind of cinematic, whatever BF has never had a good campaign...” Then a V1 just sort of came out of nowhere and landed on them with the accuracy of a JDAM and I let out an audible groan. They need to fire whoever it was in the marketing department that thought this was a good direction for the release trailer.
I think they took it way too far. Transgender women soldier - fine by me.
As far as I know some hid their gender and did their role.
But transgender + women + handicapped? A bit too much stretch here. Physically disabled people weren't recruited as far as I've learned from history class.
Apart from trying to rewrite history with elements from our modernized ideology it won't really change what happened in the past and thus ruins the realism of the game. So I understand the #notmybattlefield stuff in the comments there.
Also found this:
"Kitchen DLC for women."
Hue.
Sorry for bringing trash here.
Extra link: https://twitter.com/Terrence_CFP/status/999403121125146624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usgamer.net%2Farticles%2Fbattlefield-5-women-world-war-2&tfw_creator=usgamernet&tfw_site=usgamernet
No clue of the in-game context, but both women and disabled people were recruited for spy roles. SOE agents were trained in weapons and explosives. One of note is Virginia Hall, who was an amputee.
That's awesome! I didn't know about her, thanks for the interesting history tidbit.
Spy? sure. With a prosthetic leg? cool and massive respects!
But a handicap in the front lines in a full out World War? No. Why would they do that? They didn't even recruit the ones that weren't fit. Then how does a handicap get in? World Wars were no fun and games or a place to prove a point. Patriots lost their lives. Represent them. Woman Man Transgender whoever. But add a woman plus make her handicap? They pushed it too far. Using the WWII tag just to sell their game to make it 'look cool' it's no longer WWII tbh. Call of Duty could have gone away with that but not whilst using the WWII tags.. is an insult.
I was speaking more to your point that no disabled person was ever recruited for things that sent them into the field. It doesn't look like it from the trailer based on her uniform, but I thought it was a cool possibility that she's an SOE agent who ended up in a firefight (which is plausible based on their training and their jobs as saboteurs, guerrilla fighters, and leaders of the local resistances).
I just... I guess I don't understand why this one thing is an insult and unrealistic, while the rest of it isn't? You say that the World Wars were no fun and games... but Battlefield literally is a game. It has respawns, which could be taken as an insult to all the people who died and obviously couldn't come back. It has a relatively quick first aid mechanic, which ignores the long recovery times and often permanent disability faced by people injured in battle. I'm guessing that you can't get captured and stuck in a POW camp for the rest of the war, either. (Although maybe there are storylines that include that, I don't know.)
All of these mechanics exist in the game to make it more enjoyable to play at the expense of realism. Being able to make a character that looks like you (or a badass version of who you'd like to be) is no different to me.
(PS I'm not saying you meant it in a bad way, but "a handicap" is... not a great way to refer to someone. "Disabled person" works~)
Good points. I find it hard to argue any of the points you made.
But why it's insulting is because of the things that are now happening. The spotlight is on the handicapped girl/transgender if you haven't already noticed from the Youtube comment section and twitter #notmybattlefield flood. If it were normal and a well built game - instead of wasting time on this 'alternative' story - enhancing gamers experience using the modern day technology that we have to make it close to the true world war we know as a fact, we would be blown. It should just be a typical WWII game - which is how the game devs promote it. What they did made it more Call of Duty-ish with a extra boost of sales cause of the WWII tags. They are using the dead bodies of patriots to earn money. This has derailed it from it's track. If it were normal say with a spy mission and stuff I'd be cool with it. If they had taking the effort to make a game with solid gameplay instead of doing what they have done we would appreciate these historic events more like Battlefield 1. But..... rip.
It's still hard for me to understand why people are latching onto this one thing rather than other unrealistic things. What do we know about her? Is she a main character in a storyline? Just an example of the character creation options for players? (I keep seeing people say she's trans or a lesbian, but I haven't found any info about her, so I can't tell if this is accurate or people labeling her with more identities they think are "SJW.")
My instinct is that mechanics like respawns are accepted despite being unrealistic because they are already common in this genre of game; perhaps one day "make a character that looks like you would if you'd fought in WWII" will also be common enough that it won't cause an uproar, and people can play a more realistic game if they want.
Basically, I can understand being annoyed that a game isn't what developers claim it is, but I don't consider adding female character options to be to "rewriting history" more than other aspects of the game.
Nah respawns are acceptable cause otherwise people would never reach the end game. People nowadays say Cuphead and Dark Souls as hard when the classics I grew up playing had nothing more than 3 lives and no checkpoints or saves. Those games had them both so idk why didn't they just play the game instead of make it a big deal when it was trending. (Both are fun imo btw.) Also note Respawns are game mechanic and does not alter the story. You just born again from last checpoint/save and resume the game. What they did is change the story (which is not a story but a real life event!) and that 'triggers' me and most. One guy I read somewhere said it nicely...
"Putting "fun over authentic" is probably not a great way to approach a game based around a real war in which millions of people died."
:/
I wish you understood what I meant. Battlefield 5 is no longer based on WWII for me. That company just used a real life event to sell millions of copies of a game. Money > Respect for people that lost their lives.
Well, if we're going for realism, not everyone reached the end of the war, so I think a game with some sort of permadeath would be a valid design choice (but not a fun one).
I think we'll have to "agree to disagree" at this point. I can see your point about respect, but I don't think adding female character takes away from respecting the sacrifices of male soldiers (especially if the game covers female resistance fighters, who did exist). And all WWII games are out to make money, whatever their level of realism.
(I just thought of another reason playable female characters could be positive: increased immersion for some players. If the object is to portray a war through an interactive medium so that people can truly appreciate the hardships of war, maybe being able to further identify with your avatar helps with that?)
Was nice to see through a different point of view so thank you for keeping up! :) Games are games. Not to be taken seriously I get it your point. But I still feel the same way about the things I said. So I'll settle at agree to disagree. :P
I just wanted to pop in and say, the exchange between you two warms the cockles of my heart and gives me hope we can actually make ~ work if we continue to strive for our goals. You both had a major difference of opinion but handled it in a calm, civil way while still maintaining respect for each other. :)
Well, now they said and confirmed it themselves :/
https://twitter.com/Alekssg/status/999545829475090432
News post: https://tildes.net/~games/sa/battlefield_v_producers_says_dice_will_always_put_fun_over_authentic
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.
Dice is stuffing the game with political/social agendas for some time now and with each sequel it's even more visible.
Not only that but they are also making the game more of a "casual" type with each edition.
BF4 was the last true Battlefield for me.
The arcadieness of this is more of an issue than the handicapped girl.
The issue is that they game is starting to look like Unreal Tournament. There's nothing wrong with those kind of games, but BF was always 'sim adjacent' vs being an arcade shooter you know? If I wanted Call of Duty I'd play that. Here's hoping that these elements can be toned down a bit.
I will say, the game effects look really nice. The blood/mud sticking on the guns, the dirt sticking on the camera, that was pretty cool looking.
You ought to try Squad. It’s like someone did a mashup of BF and Arma. It’s really fun and the communication between teammates is refreshing.
Oh I've looked at that game a bit. It's pretty tempting! I've bee on a War Thunder blitz lately and damn that game is addicting.
I've heard people floating the idea that this might be an alternate-history WW2, so who knows just how crazy this game could get. I for one would love it if Dice stopped pussyfooting around and just gave us the God-damn FPS dinosaur game the world has been clamoring for since Turok all but died.
Honestly I wouldn't even mind that. Some spooky alternate history stuff is always interesting, thinking of the Wolfenstein games for example. I don't think they need to take it that far but if they made a gritty, slightly more realistic version of alternate WWII then I would jump on that idea.
Found some deets from other sites:
This trailer was just so generic. Last Battlefields trailer got me super hype but this one just falls flat. I saw the metal hand and thought "oh maybe an alt ww2 theme" but then nothing happened.
Alt history would be an amazing direction for battlefield or a similar game to take, it's a shame they didn't go that direction. It might have saved battlefield 5 from being just another in a wave of similar trending FPS games.
I can't get excited about Battlefield games anymore. Everything since Bad Company 2 has been a huge disappointment. Battlefield 2 was the last great BF game with awesome and unique maps, and a big focus on squad cohesion with command mode. Battlefield 3 felt small in comparison and I couldn't even muster up the desire to try BF4. Everything from EA is legitimately disappointing now. It's not like I can even justify the price by saying that the game will be fun enough to put up with EA crap.
What was that?
Well... It's something.
What that something is, I don't know, but it's pretty looking.
The graphics look good... that's about all I can say. The trailer looks pretty (like all Frostbite games), but other than that it didn't really say anything about the game.