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Cyberpunk 2077 release date delayed again, now December 10

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    rkcr
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    Just yesterday they were "full confirmation" on the release date: https://twitter.com/PoshPenguino/status/1321132216290869248

    Just yesterday they were "full confirmation" on the release date: https://twitter.com/PoshPenguino/status/1321132216290869248

    10 votes
    1. Deimos
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      Yeah, Jason Schreier says the devs found out at the same time as we did:

      Yeah, Jason Schreier says the devs found out at the same time as we did:

      All of them found out at the same time we did - CDPR sent an internal email simultaneously with the public tweet

      (The email said they couldn't share the news earlier because of stock regulations)

      14 votes
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    wakamex
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    they must be having a hell of a nightmare with bugs

    they must be having a hell of a nightmare with bugs

    3 votes
    1. [8]
      cfabbro
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      Or they are getting more pushback than they expected from the recently announced crunch time, possibly due to them breaking their public "promise" not to resort to that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      Or they are getting more pushback than they expected from the recently announced crunch time, possibly due to them breaking their public "promise" not to resort to that.

      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      3 votes
      1. [7]
        stu2b50
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        No, this delay definitely isn't to crunch less. If anything, they're crunching more now. Jason Schrier is reporting developers having 100 hour weeks now:...

        No, this delay definitely isn't to crunch less. If anything, they're crunching more now. Jason Schrier is reporting developers having 100 hour weeks now: https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1321140689309175808

        Definitely a "oh fuck we can't ship this, we need to crunch more and fix it before the holidays end".

        13 votes
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          j3n
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          I really wonder what "100 hour weeks" even means. I'm a software engineer. I'm mentally tired after an 8 hour day. Depending on the problem at hand, I can push that to 10-12 hours/day for a few...

          I really wonder what "100 hour weeks" even means. I'm a software engineer. I'm mentally tired after an 8 hour day. Depending on the problem at hand, I can push that to 10-12 hours/day for a few days. 100 hour weeks would be 14 hours/day, seven days a week. There's just no way I could do that. After a week (or less) of that schedule, I might be at my desk, but I'm probably not doing much of anything. If I'm producing anything at all, it's probably not any good.

          10 votes
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            stu2b50
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            It's normal for junior investment bankers to work 9-2. That's 9am to 2am. Yes, 2am. This is considered a normal week for an analyst or associate. So it certainly happens. I'd like to say that...

            It's normal for junior investment bankers to work 9-2. That's 9am to 2am. Yes, 2am. This is considered a normal week for an analyst or associate.

            So it certainly happens. I'd like to say that developing is more mentally taxing than normal IB work, but at the same time, that's what more coffee and cocaine is for!

            6 votes
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              MimicSquid
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              How does that work, logistically? Do they just live in the office? Do they have a second shift at home? What's the purpose of getting one massively sleep-deprived worker as opposed to two who are...

              How does that work, logistically? Do they just live in the office? Do they have a second shift at home? What's the purpose of getting one massively sleep-deprived worker as opposed to two who are actually rested and thinking clearly?

              7 votes
              1. ohyran
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                Cause you can fire the lazy arse who keeps being sleep deprived and get one willing to eat anything, pop any pill and keep going through any relationship or humanity to be able to do it. Or fake...

                What's the purpose of getting one massively sleep-deprived worker as opposed to two who are actually rested and thinking clearly?

                Cause you can fire the lazy arse who keeps being sleep deprived and get one willing to eat anything, pop any pill and keep going through any relationship or humanity to be able to do it. Or fake it.
                The result is easy - its the same as it was every year up until now since the system have been in place for so long - that is not a waste of money that's the normal cost - while hiring two people, who are more capable during work, is a scary new cost even if it would be saving them money. Plus its workers. Workers are replaceable. If one of them commits suicide due to lack of sleep, an excess amount of uppers, stress and lack of human life - you just get another. For free!

                The important part, pro-life hack here, is to make sure that they are expected to fix the issue for you as the owner of the company AND then make sure they never really unionise or talk as a unit outside of "members of the company" - that way they are each individually stuck in this hell, forced to do it or be swapped out and if they complain THEY are now the problem. They are the weirdoes.

                I could go on but since I just read about another death in a factory where the owners just went "uy our thoughts are with his family" and then business as usual - I might be rage-rambling right now.

                10 votes
        2. petrichor
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          There's got to be a point where such insane amounts of overtime become counterproductive, right? Or are they all just doing rote bugtesting?

          There's got to be a point where such insane amounts of overtime become counterproductive, right? Or are they all just doing rote bugtesting?

          5 votes
        3. cfabbro
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          Dang, that really sucks to hear. I won't be cancelling my preorder since I'm a cyberpunk genre fanatic, but it definitely made me seriously consider it, and I have now lost even more of my...

          Dang, that really sucks to hear. I won't be cancelling my preorder since I'm a cyberpunk genre fanatic, but it definitely made me seriously consider it, and I have now lost even more of my admiration for CDPR. :(

          4 votes
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      TheJorro
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      Nothing confirmed but I wouldn't be surprised if it's either one of, or maybe a combination of: Too many bugs in the final product New console optimizations and performance issues

      Nothing confirmed but I wouldn't be surprised if it's either one of, or maybe a combination of:

      1. Too many bugs in the final product
      2. New console optimizations and performance issues
      5 votes
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          TheJorro
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          I assumed it's the next-gen consoles posing a problem since the game went gold on October 5, but people are only getting next-gen systems in-hand right now, and CDPR have at least made games for...

          I assumed it's the next-gen consoles posing a problem since the game went gold on October 5, but people are only getting next-gen systems in-hand right now, and CDPR have at least made games for the current systems already, including a particularly impressive Switch version of the Witcher 3.

          But, yeah, who knows. We probably won't find out the real reason for quite a while.

          3 votes
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            1. TheJorro
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              Yup! I just saw that news posted elsewhere on Tildes just now. Interesting, wonder what it is considering the above.

              Yup! I just saw that news posted elsewhere on Tildes just now. Interesting, wonder what it is considering the above.

              4 votes