In grade 5 I changed schools and started history along other new classes. First history class of my life, and the teacher is a tough lady. Tough but fair as everyone at the school will find out....
In grade 5 I changed schools and started history along other new classes. First history class of my life, and the teacher is a tough lady. Tough but fair as everyone at the school will find out. Somehow the topic of the 7 wonders comes up and she asks the class if anyone can name them all. I’m a shy kid so I don’t raise my had until I see nobody else does. In a surprising moment of bravery I do raise my hand and list them all. I think I immediately got on her good side for the next 4 years at the school. How I knew this? My godfather spent lots of time with me, storytelling. I also had an old sci-fi magazine that featured the 7 wonders on the back cover. I still have it. I’ll try to take a photo and add the link.
Indeed, it was really cool. I ended up studying history and literature in university later in life. Guess I never fell out of love with the stories and the lessons we can learn from them.
Indeed, it was really cool. I ended up studying history and literature in university later in life. Guess I never fell out of love with the stories and the lessons we can learn from them.
My pleasure! I kept this one, and a heavy metal magazine (not the comics, a music magazine). Wish I kept at least one PC games magazine. Used to love those. Trying all the demos on the CDs was so...
My pleasure! I kept this one, and a heavy metal magazine (not the comics, a music magazine). Wish I kept at least one PC games magazine. Used to love those. Trying all the demos on the CDs was so much fun.
Super interesting read (and very technical). I'm curious why the government decided to block the retrieval of objects over 100kg. Is it for fear that the objects be damaged? Safety concerns?...
the Egyptian government has imposed a weight restriction on elements eligible for refloating, limiting them to 100 kg. In contrast, the 30 blocks with inscriptions found at the site each weigh between 1 and 7 tons. Consequently, none of these significant artifacts can be refloated due to this regulation,
Super interesting read (and very technical). I'm curious why the government decided to block the retrieval of objects over 100kg. Is it for fear that the objects be damaged? Safety concerns? Logistics? At least we can still scan them underwater, but would be awesome to see some of these larger chunks resurface so that a replica or some sort of monument could be made out of them.
Edit: and wait a second, some of the photos show blocks that are definitely way larger than 100kg being craned out of the water. So now I'm a bit confused.
This is very cool. Scan them underwater, pull up some pieces and keep moist, scan more, re-submerge, build digital model. If the lighthouse has toppled on land we wouldn't have anything left,...
They used photogrammetry, a method that builds 3D models from photos, taken at many angles.
This is very cool. Scan them underwater, pull up some pieces and keep moist, scan more, re-submerge, build digital model. If the lighthouse has toppled on land we wouldn't have anything left, between weathering and re-use.
I went to go find a comment I made on a previous thread about this lighthouse, and noticed the article from that thread was remarkably similar to the information in this one, even including some...
I went to go find a comment I made on a previous thread about this lighthouse, and noticed the article from that thread was remarkably similar to the information in this one, even including some of the same photographs. I thought it was strange since that article was from October, so what's actually new this time around? But then I saw that that previous article had been updated on February 11th, so I guess they just added in any new info or photographs.
Anyways. here's a little tidbit about the lighthouse in case anyone is interested:
The word 'lighthouse' in many Latin-based languages directly ties into the Lighthouse at Alexandria. It was actually on a small island called Pharos, so we ended up with terms like faro (Spanish and Italian), phare (French), farol (Portuguese), and pharology (English, the study of lighthouses).
Didn't know that, pretty cool! Hmm actually I'm not so sure that it comes from the same place. I just did some etymological research since I love that kind of thing, and it seems like fyr is also...
Didn't know that, pretty cool!
Hmm actually I'm not so sure that it comes from the same place. I just did some etymological research since I love that kind of thing, and it seems like fyr is also fire in Swedish? Makes sense since fyr and fire look so similar. So in that case I'm not actually sure that it would relate to the Pharos-based words like phare and farol. Like in other nordic languages it appears to be things like fyrtårn which combine fyr (light/fire) and tårn (tower) which seems as descriptive as light+house is in English. So seems to be just a funny coincidence that fyr in Swedish resembles phare or faro in Latin languages.
Edit: did some more digging (again I really love this kind of stuff) since I was curious if fyr and pharos both shared an acestor or something. Turns out probably not. Fyr comes from Proto-Indo-European. That was just their word for fire which explains why its fire/fyr/feuer in various Germanic languages.
Meanwhile pharos has a murkier history. Per this /r/etymology thread, it seems like the island at Alexandria was named after the lighthouse that was on it, since pharos was the Greek word for lighthouse already. And that itself probably came from either the Greek phao (meaning "to shine") or the Egyptian pharez (meaning "watch tower").
You might be right. Fire is usually 'eld' in Swedish, but I think the rest of your reasoning works. I have a hard time coming up with any modern uses of 'fyr' in Swedish that doesn't come from the...
You might be right. Fire is usually 'eld' in Swedish, but I think the rest of your reasoning works. I have a hard time coming up with any modern uses of 'fyr' in Swedish that doesn't come from the lighthouse though.
In grade 5 I changed schools and started history along other new classes. First history class of my life, and the teacher is a tough lady. Tough but fair as everyone at the school will find out. Somehow the topic of the 7 wonders comes up and she asks the class if anyone can name them all. I’m a shy kid so I don’t raise my had until I see nobody else does. In a surprising moment of bravery I do raise my hand and list them all. I think I immediately got on her good side for the next 4 years at the school. How I knew this? My godfather spent lots of time with me, storytelling. I also had an old sci-fi magazine that featured the 7 wonders on the back cover. I still have it. I’ll try to take a photo and add the link.
7-Wonders.jpg
That's a cool magazine but even better that your godfather spend time with you and told you many stories :)
Indeed, it was really cool. I ended up studying history and literature in university later in life. Guess I never fell out of love with the stories and the lessons we can learn from them.
Cool that you kept the magazine! Thanks for sharing. :-)
My pleasure! I kept this one, and a heavy metal magazine (not the comics, a music magazine). Wish I kept at least one PC games magazine. Used to love those. Trying all the demos on the CDs was so much fun.
I found the linked paper even more interesting as well!
Super interesting read (and very technical). I'm curious why the government decided to block the retrieval of objects over 100kg. Is it for fear that the objects be damaged? Safety concerns? Logistics? At least we can still scan them underwater, but would be awesome to see some of these larger chunks resurface so that a replica or some sort of monument could be made out of them.
Edit: and wait a second, some of the photos show blocks that are definitely way larger than 100kg being craned out of the water. So now I'm a bit confused.
I didn't read it but can vouche for it having super cool extra photos of the site, worth seeing
I didn't read the whole thing, but yeah, the pictures are what sold it (and why I did read a decent amount).
This is very cool. Scan them underwater, pull up some pieces and keep moist, scan more, re-submerge, build digital model. If the lighthouse has toppled on land we wouldn't have anything left, between weathering and re-use.
I went to go find a comment I made on a previous thread about this lighthouse, and noticed the article from that thread was remarkably similar to the information in this one, even including some of the same photographs. I thought it was strange since that article was from October, so what's actually new this time around? But then I saw that that previous article had been updated on February 11th, so I guess they just added in any new info or photographs.
Anyways. here's a little tidbit about the lighthouse in case anyone is interested:
The word 'lighthouse' in many Latin-based languages directly ties into the Lighthouse at Alexandria. It was actually on a small island called Pharos, so we ended up with terms like faro (Spanish and Italian), phare (French), farol (Portuguese), and pharology (English, the study of lighthouses).
Readly cool, It's 'fyr' in Swedish, so I guess that's the same as well
Didn't know that, pretty cool!
Hmm actually I'm not so sure that it comes from the same place. I just did some etymological research since I love that kind of thing, and it seems like fyr is also fire in Swedish? Makes sense since fyr and fire look so similar. So in that case I'm not actually sure that it would relate to the Pharos-based words like phare and farol. Like in other nordic languages it appears to be things like fyrtårn which combine fyr (light/fire) and tårn (tower) which seems as descriptive as light+house is in English. So seems to be just a funny coincidence that fyr in Swedish resembles phare or faro in Latin languages.
Edit: did some more digging (again I really love this kind of stuff) since I was curious if fyr and pharos both shared an acestor or something. Turns out probably not. Fyr comes from Proto-Indo-European. That was just their word for fire which explains why its fire/fyr/feuer in various Germanic languages.
Meanwhile pharos has a murkier history. Per this /r/etymology thread, it seems like the island at Alexandria was named after the lighthouse that was on it, since pharos was the Greek word for lighthouse already. And that itself probably came from either the Greek phao (meaning "to shine") or the Egyptian pharez (meaning "watch tower").
You might be right. Fire is usually 'eld' in Swedish, but I think the rest of your reasoning works. I have a hard time coming up with any modern uses of 'fyr' in Swedish that doesn't come from the lighthouse though.