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  1. [3]
    stu2b50
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    The most obvious way to style it is with workwear, especially vintage workwear. Try it with a vintage french chore coat, or a vintage m65 army jacket. Finish it with the same kind of earthy,...

    The most obvious way to style it is with workwear, especially vintage workwear. Try it with a vintage french chore coat, or a vintage m65 army jacket. Finish it with the same kind of earthy, workwear vibes; a chambray shirt, straight cut jeans (don't do skinny though! it'll look off), and so forth.

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      balooga
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      Yeah it’s kind of a statement piece. I’m not really a style guy but I feel like you’d really have to lean into the whole vintage blue-collar look to pull it off. Including corresponding beard...

      Yeah it’s kind of a statement piece. I’m not really a style guy but I feel like you’d really have to lean into the whole vintage blue-collar look to pull it off. Including corresponding beard grooming, accessories and the like. Otherwise you risk straying into fedora-and-tshirt “m’lady” territory. Honestly items like that are why my fashion sense is completely pedestrian, because the danger of embarrassing myself by doing it wrong is too high for my liking. That said, the men who succeed in dressing this way look fantastic and there’ll always be part of me that admires and envies them.

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      1. stu2b50
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        Eh, I don't think that really matters. Not to mention that, for workwear, a clean shave and no accessories would be expected (in the 1902s, beards were banned in the US for many occupations as...

        Including corresponding beard grooming, accessories and the like.

        Eh, I don't think that really matters. Not to mention that, for workwear, a clean shave and no accessories would be expected (in the 1902s, beards were banned in the US for many occupations as surgeons considered them dangerous for medical treatment).

        because the danger of embarrassing myself by doing it wrong is too high for my liking.

        A lot of men get caught up by this, but as an exercise, explicitly try to notice other men who are dressed with, let's say, more effort. And think - did you care? Did you judge them? Consider them embarrassing? I'd imagine not, and that's the reality for most people - at most you're a passing thought in someone else's mind. But let alone judgement, no one walking across the street actually cares about you at all.

        Wearing clothes is fun, don't let phantoms keep you away from it.

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      kru
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      That hat is awesome and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

      That hat is awesome and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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      1. BashCrandiboot
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        And if people call you a Peaky Blinder you say, "and don't you fookin' forget it!"

        And if people call you a Peaky Blinder you say, "and don't you fookin' forget it!"

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    2. rosco
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      First, a good hat is the one you like, so I'd say you have a good hat. :) The hat is a flat cap. Really common at the turn of the 20th century. My dad grew up in the same neighborhood as Peaky...

      First, a good hat is the one you like, so I'd say you have a good hat. :)

      The hat is a flat cap. Really common at the turn of the 20th century. My dad grew up in the same neighborhood as Peaky Blinders is set - Small Heath - in Birmingham. His first job was even a bookies runner - a job they would have employed if he hadn't worked about 20 years after their time. At the time he wore a flat cap and said it was just normal.

      Your question got me wondering what the origin of it being so widespread was so I peeked on Wikipedia

      A 1571 Act of the English Parliament was enacted to stimulate domestic wool consumption and general trade. It decreed that on Sundays and holidays, all males over 6 years of age, except for the nobility and "persons of degree", were to wear woolen caps or pay a fine of three farthings per day (equivalent to £1.41 in 2023).[6] The Act was not repealed until 1597.

      It sounds like it took off in the 1500s, though it may have been a different style then, and permeated through the mid 20th century. My dad may be from Birmingham, but his dad was a smelter/miner from Newcastle and I wonder if that had any influence on his choice. It sounds like that is the area it originated from.

      If you're asking about styling it today, I think you could go in a few directions. The obvious choice is to wear it with similar styling of the era - peacoat, derbies, slacks - kind of like how Tommy Shelby might dress. Another option is to take it into modern british vintage revival akin to something Nigel Cabourn might style. I think because it's more of a historic type of hat it'll be an accent or statement with anything "normally" modern. But style is very personal and it's always up to you.

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  3. drannex
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    Flatcap, I practically have only worn these on a daily basis for the past twenty years. Great caps, comfortable, tweed and wool are the go to for these, great in the heat and in the cold. A decent...

    Flatcap, I practically have only worn these on a daily basis for the past twenty years. Great caps, comfortable, tweed and wool are the go to for these, great in the heat and in the cold.

    A decent US refined design are "Boston Scally Caps", absolutely love their caps, another great high quality brand are Stetson flat caps, those two brands outline nearly all of my collection.

    Nonstop compliments when I wear them, minimum is about once a day you'll have someone mention them. The other benefit is that since they are a more classic refined hat, you can wear them in the office or indoors and no one looks at you strange or try to get any wardrobe regs in your face. You can wear these with anything.

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    patience_limited
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    The specific style of hat you've shown is a Donnegal touring cap, not a Peaky Blinders-esque newsboy hat with multiple panels and top button. The Irish Donnegal hat is more closely fitted and has...

    The specific style of hat you've shown is a Donnegal touring cap, not a Peaky Blinders-esque newsboy hat with multiple panels and top button. The Irish Donnegal hat is more closely fitted and has a structured beak that flows smoothly into the crown.

    If you wanted to stick closely to traditional vintage style, it looks fabulous with chunky fisherman's sweaters and tweed jackets or vests. But flat caps are generally versatile for styling; just choose your outfit based on color and pattern complementarity. For summer, you'd probably want linen, not wool.

    [Full disclosure: AFAB who prefers men's or genderless clothing for quality and practicality, married to a style-conscious cis-man. I'm very particular about hats; apparently, I have a specific expression that spouse refers to as the "hat-trying face".]

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      sparksbet
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      Ooh this is gonna swerve off-topic but as a afab non-binary butch I need recs for comfy tops that aren't t-shirts or brightly-patterened button-ups over t-shirts. My current wardrobe is very "baby...

      AFAB who prefers men's or genderless clothing for quality and practicality

      Ooh this is gonna swerve off-topic but as a afab non-binary butch I need recs for comfy tops that aren't t-shirts or brightly-patterened button-ups over t-shirts. My current wardrobe is very "baby transmasc" lol

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        patience_limited
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        As we count down to cooler weather, don't underestimate the power of a sharp vest or textured sweater over an Oxford shirt. Fisherman or cable knit sweaters in cotton make good autumn transitional...

        As we count down to cooler weather, don't underestimate the power of a sharp vest or textured sweater over an Oxford shirt. Fisherman or cable knit sweaters in cotton make good autumn transitional pieces, and wool for winter. Accent with a cap or tie as you choose.

        [Body shape note - vests, men's-cut jackets and sweaters are easiest to wear stylishly if you're relatively flat-chested, which I'm not anymore. Anything that fits my shoulders and chest bags sloppily around the waist, so it's back to women's cuts (aside from the problem of finding women's shirt sleeves made for biceps and delts... thankfully, there's elastane). OTOH, knits are friendly to narrower-shouldered mascs with larger waist circumferences.]

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        1. sparksbet
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          I'm pretty fat but had top surgery, so my chest is flatter than it would be if I were a cis guy at my weight lol! my main trouble with men's tops tends to be shoulder width and arm length

          I'm pretty fat but had top surgery, so my chest is flatter than it would be if I were a cis guy at my weight lol! my main trouble with men's tops tends to be shoulder width and arm length

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    lackofaname
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    I believe what you have there is a flat cap made from a houndstooth plaid fabric. Truthfully, I don't know the history (aside from looking British as h*ck to my non-British eyes), but now that we...

    I believe what you have there is a flat cap made from a houndstooth plaid fabric.

    Truthfully, I don't know the history (aside from looking British as h*ck to my non-British eyes), but now that we have a name, I think Wikipedia can provide a bit of info:

    A 1571 Act of the English Parliament was enacted to stimulate domestic wool consumption and general trade. It decreed that on Sundays and holidays, all males over 6 years of age, except for the nobility and "persons of degree", were to wear woolen caps or pay a fine of three farthings per day (equivalent to £1.41 in 2023).[6] The Act was not repealed until 1597 [...] In the 19th and early 20th centuries, when men predominantly wore some form of headgear, flat caps were commonly worn throughout Great Britain and Ireland. Versions in finer cloth were also considered to be suitable casual countryside wear for upper-class Englishmen. Flat caps were worn by fashionable young men in the 1920s.

    Are you looking for more traditional or more modern ways of styling the hat? More masculine or feminine looks?

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      1. lackofaname
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        Admittedly, I don't see a whole lot of them around where I am (in Canada), so I don't have a lot of real-life inspo to share. Also, style is so personal, I might recommend you try building...

        Admittedly, I don't see a whole lot of them around where I am (in Canada), so I don't have a lot of real-life inspo to share. Also, style is so personal, I might recommend you try building yourself a bit of an inspo board from photos of styles you'd like to emulate, then pay attention to the details to figure out what exactly you like.

        You could go as simple as a solid T with neutral chinos/trousers. Or, get a breezy button-up (linen blend to keep cooler in summer). Or, throw a blazer on. You might not want to lean too "traditional" in style, to avoid a costumey feel, but I'm a big fan of people wearing whatever makes them feel good :)

        I do think the real key is to coordinate the colour story throughout your outfit with your hat - otherwise, it can easily look like an afterthought. The hat in the photo, charcoaly + warm brown stripes, would pair well with a warm, earthy palette. Some easy matches would be dark greys, all sorts of browns, maroons/burgundies, muted or navy blues, foresty greens.

  6. knocklessmonster
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    As mentioned it's a flatcap. I would style it like a baseball cap you can wear to a nice dinner. Shorts and a t-shirt, outdoors in slacks and a button-up, it'll work. Being neutrally coolored it...

    As mentioned it's a flatcap. I would style it like a baseball cap you can wear to a nice dinner. Shorts and a t-shirt, outdoors in slacks and a button-up, it'll work. Being neutrally coolored it would work in any context with nost colors, too.

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